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brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:53 PM Apr 2020

We've never backed a Democrat for president. But Trump must be defeated.

Washington Post

George T. Conway III
Reed Galen
Steve Schmidt
John Weaver
Rick Wilson

This November, Americans will cast their most consequential votes since Abraham Lincoln’s reelection in 1864. We confront a constellation of crises: a public health emergency not seen in a century, an economic collapse set to rival the Great Depression, and a world where American leadership is absent and dangers rise in the vacuum.

Today, the United States is beset with a president who was unprepared for the burden of the presidency and who has made plain his deficits in leadership, management, intelligence and morality.

When we founded the Lincoln Project, we did so with a clear mission: to defeat President Trump in November. Publicly supporting a Democratic nominee for president is a first for all of us. We are in extraordinary times, and we have chosen to put country over party — and former vice president Joe Biden is the candidate who we believe will do the same.

Biden is now the presumptive Democratic nominee and he has our support. Biden has the experience, the attributes and the character to defeat Trump this fall. Unlike Trump, for whom the presidency is just one more opportunity to perfect his narcissism and self-aggrandizement, Biden sees public service as an opportunity to do right by the American people and a privilege to do so.
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We've never backed a Democrat for president. But Trump must be defeated. (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2020 OP
We'll take EVERY vote we can get! MyOwnPeace Apr 2020 #1
+1 llmart Apr 2020 #4
I'm unfamiliar with Galen, but the other four authors are among my favorite NeverTrumpers. highplainsdem Apr 2020 #2
Biden will not need on-the-job training. Qutzupalotl Apr 2020 #3
True indeed... c_junk Apr 2020 #20
He also will not need a nanny to watch out for him nor will he likely be facing any prison time cstanleytech Apr 2020 #26
This group has some brutal ads attacking Trump IronLionZion Apr 2020 #5
Rick Wilson knows how to throw down Ilsa Apr 2020 #38
Even these republicans know he is total wack lunasun Apr 2020 #6
They're not only running ads against Trump, octoberlib Apr 2020 #7
I'm glad to hear that. klook Apr 2020 #55
Every single time the word "Biden" is mentioned, most will remember..." Trump is a "crook." Stuart G Apr 2020 #8
And "wattabout" jar-jar-vanKKKa... (BTW) Lock him up. Apr 2020 #14
The LIAR vs. the LEADER ! liberalla Apr 2020 #24
these guys might also want to jump on the... dhill926 Apr 2020 #9
they are on it... handmade34 Apr 2020 #35
excellent... dhill926 Apr 2020 #37
I wonder what George and KellyAnne talk about over dinner. nt Buns_of_Fire Apr 2020 #10
They probably talk about the same things James Carville... Sloumeau Apr 2020 #17
They're rich grifters. Codeine Apr 2020 #44
Didn't Schmidt endorse Hillary in 2016? DFW Apr 2020 #11
He was acting as a commentator so he did not formally back anyone. former9thward Apr 2020 #21
Got it DFW Apr 2020 #23
Was this before or after sdfernando Apr 2020 #58
Well. Alrighty then. crickets Apr 2020 #12
Chicken Little here. qwlauren35 Apr 2020 #13
National Emergency will not work... Lock him up. Apr 2020 #16
Treathen? Beartracks Apr 2020 #32
Partisans surrendering their partisanship, country over party bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #15
Make sure the Bernie-Bros see this FakeNoose Apr 2020 #18
KR! Cha Apr 2020 #19
Welcome to the BIG TENT, Lincoln Project Ellen Forradalom Apr 2020 #22
Talk's cheap! Fritz Walter Apr 2020 #25
Talk helps. Public statements like this give other Republicans "permission" to cross over. Chemisse Apr 2020 #27
Please clue in. They have raised funds to produce & broadcast HARD HITTING ADS. Great ads. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #29
This! n/t MFGsunny Apr 2020 #31
You're absolutely right.....They are paying for ads against him Upthevibe Apr 2020 #39
What took them so long? jimlup Apr 2020 #28
Just say'n you should check your facts before posting Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #30
Definitely not trying to antagonize but ... jimlup Apr 2020 #33
They aren't claiming to be Democrats or liberals . Why do you have a problem with Republicans not JI7 Apr 2020 #42
I don't jimlup Apr 2020 #46
I have a problem with anyone who has a problem with those who want to rid of Trump JI7 Apr 2020 #47
Well then you have a problem with me jimlup Apr 2020 #49
the so called left wing that people have a problem with are those who JI7 Apr 2020 #50
I consider myself as a member of the left wing of our party jimlup Apr 2020 #53
Yes to defeating Trump "and Trumpism." Beartracks Apr 2020 #34
They didn't take long. They have always opposed Trump JI7 Apr 2020 #41
IVE been telling the conservatives I know - you dont have to stop being a Kashkakat v.2.0 Apr 2020 #36
Thank you for this post... Upthevibe Apr 2020 #40
k&r Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #43
As previously mentioned by wiser ones... N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2020 #45
COUNTRY FIRST! Every American needs to believe this and follow this in November 2020 usaf-vet Apr 2020 #48
I'll assume that's the pejorative "we" and him and his crone like wife. nt Javaman Apr 2020 #51
Still waiting their apologies for laying the foundation of the current iteration of their R Party eleny Apr 2020 #52
Excellent read. Don't trust their "awakening" longterm but we'll take 'em for now. calimary Apr 2020 #54
Congratulations! Maybe you'll look at Dems differently going forward. Joinfortmill Apr 2020 #56
They know for themselves that "Joe" is the man for the job... cheezmaka Apr 2020 #57
I read what the writer(s) said about Biden, BobTheSubgenius Apr 2020 #59

llmart

(15,536 posts)
4. +1
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:32 PM
Apr 2020

Exactly what I was going to post.

We'll take any vote we can get and then some. I don't want Biden to just win. I want him to beat the Dump from here to eternity.

highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
2. I'm unfamiliar with Galen, but the other four authors are among my favorite NeverTrumpers.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:09 PM
Apr 2020

I'm glad they're on our side, and I think they'll help sway a lot of Republicans to vote for Biden.

c_junk

(46 posts)
20. True indeed...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:21 PM
Apr 2020

Have to note though that one of the many differences between Biden and tRump, is that Biden will learn new things when he has too. tRump's inner demons occupy him so thoroughly he can't.

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
26. He also will not need a nanny to watch out for him nor will he likely be facing any prison time
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:38 PM
Apr 2020

unlike Trump.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
7. They're not only running ads against Trump,
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:08 PM
Apr 2020

they’re also going after RepublicanCongresspeople and Senators who are up for re-election. They’ve run ads against a bunch of Senators like Tillis(NC) and McSally(AZ).

klook

(12,154 posts)
55. I'm glad to hear that.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 11:19 AM
Apr 2020

I’ve been concerned that the Never-Trumpers mainly want Trump out so they can save the Rethug party for Jeb or Mitt or some other faux moderate at a later date.

So if they’re willing to get elbows-deep in this election to turn the Senate blue and help hold the House, that’s encouraging indeed.

I’ve been reading Rick Wilson’s book Everything Trump Touches Dies, and it’s clear that he is a fighter who’ll go all the way to the mat for his candidate. Good guy to have on our side in this all-important election.

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
8. Every single time the word "Biden" is mentioned, most will remember..." Trump is a "crook."
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:08 PM
Apr 2020

..Trump has already lost the 2020 election in my opinion. Trump has lied too much....and everyone knows it. Did Trump try to get "dirt" on Biden's son? And then lie about it???


....Trump will lose all 50 states to Joe Biden.. Trump the liar..vs Joe Biden "leader"

Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
14. And "wattabout" jar-jar-vanKKKa... (BTW)
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:26 PM
Apr 2020

They can't use that (or if they try... hit them back with bigger ads)

(BTW) where's the ghoul? In jail yet?

liberalla

(9,238 posts)
24. The LIAR vs. the LEADER !
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:32 PM
Apr 2020

I like it! Right now on regular nbc tv, drump is giving all this info and I'm thinking to myself, don't even listen cuz nothin' is true!

dhill926

(16,337 posts)
9. these guys might also want to jump on the...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:09 PM
Apr 2020

anti-republican bandwagon as well. The orange asshole has been enabled every step of the way by McConnell and the rest of them...

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
21. He was acting as a commentator so he did not formally back anyone.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:26 PM
Apr 2020
Republican strategist Steve Schmidt said early Wednesday that Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton could win more than 400 Electoral College votes on Nov. 8, adding that "the panic is beginning" among Republicans.

"I think she's trending over 400," Schmidt said during an appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

Schmidt also predicted that Democrats will take control of the Senate and are close to taking the House of Representatives.


https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/301746-republican-strategist-clinton-could-top-400-electoral

ALEX WITT, MSNBC: So giving your vast experience, advising Republican campaigns, were you to be advising Donald Trump, what would you say? You've got to do this, this weekend. Is there anything?

STEVE SCHMIDT: Well, look. I think when you look at this -- when you look at where the race is right now, Hillary Clinton will be elected the 45th president of the United States. And so now it's time, particularly because of the rhetoric from Donald Trump, about the rigged election, about his assaults on the process by which we choose the leaders.

I think they need to spend some serious time preparing a concession speech. And being focused on initiating in a dignified manner the peaceful transition of power which takes place on January 20th. The process commences when the losing candidate picks up the phone, calls the winning candidate. The first person who addresses Hillary Clinton on Tuesday night is Madam President-Elect that matters is Donald Trump. And he's indicated that he has no intention of conceding this election in a normal manner. And it's very dangerous for American democracy.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/05/steve_schmidt_time_for_trump_campaign_to_prepare_a_dignified_concession_speech.html

qwlauren35

(6,147 posts)
13. Chicken Little here.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:23 PM
Apr 2020

I don't know how Trump will try to steal the election, but I know he's going to try.

My biggest fear is "National Emergency, election indefinitely postponed".

My second biggest fear is election tampering.

Only if his approval ratings drop to 30% will I have hope that we "cannot lose".

Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
16. National Emergency will not work...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:31 PM
Apr 2020

The House can "treathen" to cut funding in retaliation and he won't go there (coward).

Election tampering: They tried that in 2018. Didn't work out well enough: Turnout too big.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
15. Partisans surrendering their partisanship, country over party
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:30 PM
Apr 2020

Where were you guys in past presidential elections? Party over country. Definition of a Republican.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
18. Make sure the Bernie-Bros see this
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:53 PM
Apr 2020

They did us a lot of damage in 2016. We can't let it happen again.

If the disaffected GOP voters cannot bring themselves to pull the lever for a Democrat, we can only hope that they decide to stay home and not vote at all. PLEASE!



Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
25. Talk's cheap!
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:38 PM
Apr 2020

What we really need now is the financial backing needed to overwhelm the PACs and other dark money that is piling up to support Covid Donnie and his blind supporters in the House and especially the Senate.

The election returns must be in such overwhelming numbers that his/their complaints about voter fraud are laughed off the planet, once and for all.
In the meantime, let us stay focused. Eyes on the prize.

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
27. Talk helps. Public statements like this give other Republicans "permission" to cross over.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:51 PM
Apr 2020

The more respected Republicans who say this, the more Trump's GOP support will crumble.

Upthevibe

(8,038 posts)
39. You're absolutely right.....They are paying for ads against him
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 11:17 PM
Apr 2020

and they are throwing their support behind the challengers of McConnell, Graham, etc.....

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,994 posts)
30. Just say'n you should check your facts before posting
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 07:49 PM
Apr 2020

They waited to endorse Biden until the big Democratic endorsements (Sanders, Warren) came in, which is fair. Now that has happened they are explicitly endorsing Biden, since he is the presumptive Democratic nominee. Sounds like you wanted them to interfere in the Democratic primary by endorsing one candidate or another before Democrats settled it among themselves. I do not agree with that desire.

But they have always opposed tRump.

They formally organized the PAC mid-December 2019. They formed it to specifically de-elect tRump. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/12/17/anti-trump-lincoln-project-super-pac/2672990001/

In the op-ed, they announced the founding of the Lincoln Project, a super PAC that "will be dedicated to defeating President Trump and Trumpism at the ballot box


The participants are never-Trumpers who have been opposing him in 2016 since before the election and resisting him ever since he was elected.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
33. Definitely not trying to antagonize but ...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 08:22 PM
Apr 2020

"Never Trumpers", while correct are still quite late to the game. Just think, they backed the Bush II presidency. That they backed that and the Republican congressional crap that we've endured pretty much my whole life means that yes, "Never Trumpers", even if they came across in 2016, are late to the game.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
42. They aren't claiming to be Democrats or liberals . Why do you have a problem with Republicans not
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 11:21 PM
Apr 2020

wanting to support Trump and being some of the best when it comes to going after him ?

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
46. I don't
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:28 AM
Apr 2020

I just said it is pretty late to the party.

Why do you have such a problem with me not liking or respecting Republicans?

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
49. Well then you have a problem with me
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 09:34 AM
Apr 2020

because the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.

Trump is indeed my enemy and I'm willing to make temporary alliances to get rid of his monstrosity.

But this brings up a more general question in my own mind as I think about the ramifications of this. It seems to me that many on this site have MORE TROUBLE WITH THE LEFT WING OF OUR OWN PARTY than with the "Never Trumper" faction. This worries me.

Anyway, never mind. I can see that my open discussion style doesn't really work well with some here. So whatever, I really just want to have some friends that share some common values but I'm not worried about a causal comment that I don't like Never Trumpers because well, honestly, I don't.

Unless we can now agree to disagree I will have no choice but to block you. I'm hoping I don't have to do that.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
50. the so called left wing that people have a problem with are those who
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 09:39 AM
Apr 2020

assist republicans in staying in office by mostly attacking Democrats .

They hide behind label of claiming to be left wing but they are mostly similar to most thing wingers.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
53. I consider myself as a member of the left wing of our party
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 10:33 AM
Apr 2020

and I disagree completely. You paint the left with too wide a brush.

Bye forever!

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
34. Yes to defeating Trump "and Trumpism."
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 08:25 PM
Apr 2020

Trumpism's gotta be purged. The cult-like devotion and/or cowering fear exhibited by so many Republicans is anathema to democracy. (Well, that AND a whole lot of typical Republican policies and priorities, but ya gotta start somewhere.)

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Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
36. IVE been telling the conservatives I know - you dont have to stop being a
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 09:19 PM
Apr 2020

conservative to believe in the checks and balances of a 2 party system and to vote for a Dem once in a while for pragmatic reasons.

We can return to our regularly scheduled programming later.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
48. COUNTRY FIRST! Every American needs to believe this and follow this in November 2020
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:44 AM
Apr 2020

Maybe someday the Country will recover enough so that every American can vote for their candidate.

BUT NOT NOW, It needs to be COUNTRY FIRST!!

calimary

(81,220 posts)
54. Excellent read. Don't trust their "awakening" longterm but we'll take 'em for now.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 10:36 AM
Apr 2020

Whatever gets the White House and Senate back for Democrats is fine with me! WHATEVER gets trump out of power is fine with me.

cheezmaka

(737 posts)
57. They know for themselves that "Joe" is the man for the job...
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:12 PM
Apr 2020

Everything is falling apart right now and the republicans are letting it happen. He is the "real" deal maker that can help bring this Nation back together....not Don the Con!

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
59. I read what the writer(s) said about Biden,
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:17 PM
Apr 2020

and I had to swallow hard. I don't know what their back story is, but, at least in this instance, it's country ahead of party by miles.

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