Charles Pierce: The 25th Amendment Exists for a Reason (president* fomenting insurrection)

[muriel_volestrangler]

It’s not every Friday that the president* takes to the electric Twitter machine to foment insurrection.

Federalism!

The only reason the pandemic hasn’t been the national catastrophe that it could have been is the swift action taken by individual governors, and here is El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago—or some idiot staffer speaking for him—inciting armed resistance against those governors. (And the “Save Your 2nd Amendment” thing aimed at Virginia is precisely that.) He looked at those idiots in Michigan, whom he noted “like” him, which is all that matters, and saw a movement with which he could power a re-election campaign.

Now, he’s signaling that he’s on their side, which is not only stupid from a public health standpoint, it's absolutely dangerous from a political standpoint. There are certain viewpoints that history tells us are perilous when they begin circulating in our politics, and this president* has managed to mix up two of them. He created an extreme devolution of federal authority to the states, and now he’s using the power of the presidency to incite resistance to the very situation his nonfeasance created in the first place. In theory, it’s like there were four sides to the Civil War. It’s a recipe for a domestic version of the dissolution of Yugoslavia.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32188352/trump-twitter-liberate-virginia-second-amendment/

[sop]

1. If you think this is bad, give it a few months.

When El Caudillo de Mar-a-Lago realizes his re-election chances are circling the toilet, because he's been unable to bullshit and browbeat governors into committing genocide by reopening his big, beautiful economy, he'll really ratchet up the calls for insurrection. And God only knows what this POS will do after he loses the election.

[SWBTATTReg]

6. I think he's already realised that he's lost already. His numbers are literally in the toilet and

Biden is at least 10% points ahead of him. Rump's actions, ranting and raving is the perfect campaign ad for Biden, who doesn't even to say one word. rump is sinking deeper and deeper into the mess he is solely responsible for. He, and all of his enablers will pay one day for their crimes against humanity. Allowing a certain fraction of people to die for the common good of all. Despicable. Every life is worth its weight in gold, who are we to judge the value of a life over others?

[musclecar6]

2. I agree

This will only get worse. When you have, by all indications that have been published, a wild unhinged at least malignant narcissistic( and likely a full blown sociopath) off the rails incompetent person acting out, as the virus effects worsen without sensible intervention, AND the election draws near, get ready. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. His father sent him to military school to try and get a grip on him. Didn’t do any good.

[Hearthrob]

10. He is a psychopath.

The 2nd 'civil' warriors are armed with AR-15s plus.
And they are embeded.

[hadEnuf]

21. Chances are very high that this is going to wind up being violent at some point.

It's what the RWNJ's have been dreaming about for decades. Trump will try and bring the country down with him if he knows he's going to lose. He's already agitating now.

Americans really need to be prepared for this.

[LovingA2andMI]

3. It Time For Removal By Military Force

Of Trump. Period!

[Hekate]

13. So who do you trust to be Generallissimo Presidente For Life after the junta?

Just stop it.

[DENVERPOPS]

19. TWICE NOW, TWICE

THE SECRETARY OF NAVY HAS STOOD BY IDLY. TWICE

ALONG WITH OTHER TOP MILITARY COMMANDERS........

UNTIL PROVEN DIFFERENTLY, I WOULD NOT EXPECT MUCH OUT OF THEM.........

IN REALITY, AT THIS POINT, THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE THE WHERE-TO-FORE TO STOP THIS INSANITY.

THE VERY FIRST THING THE MILITARY ADMINISTRATION SHOULD DO IS INSTRUCT THE GUY CARRYING THE FOOTBALL TO, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ALLOW THE PRESIDENT TO TAKE POSSESSION OF IT. OF COURSE THEY NEED TO WATCH OUT FOR THE SECRET SERVICE GUARDING HIM........

[NoRoadUntravelled]

28. That's a job for Congress, not the Military

The importance of maintaining Rule of Law by following the Constitution is paramount even though there are factions that want to do otherwise.

[DENVERPOPS]

29. I think we have been trying that for years

And, while I respect your opinion, I have to say that clearly that hasn't worked.

nothing more to say.......

[The Wizard]

23. I'm surprised a pissed off

flag officer hasn't physically removed him from the White House.

[LovingA2andMI]

26. Dittp...

n/t

[Solly Mack]

4. K&R

[smirkymonkey]

5. +1000

[brer cat]

7. K&R

[ffr]

8. The last time conservatives targeted democrats, Gabrielle Giffords nearly lost her life.

Others weren't as fortunate.

2011 Republican campaign to "Target" and "take out" democratic seats



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/8251160/Arizona-shooting-Have-Sarah-Palins-election-chances-been-damaged.html

[Hermit-The-Prog]

9. If we don't have a suitable dungeon for the Grotesque Orange Pustule, a septic tank will do.

[Hearthrob]

11. I like Epstein's old cell

[Hermit-The-Prog]

12. Oh no, I want him to live a long, miserable life, up to his waist in waste.

[The Wizard]

24. I think Dante covered that

in the Seventh Circle of his "Divine Comedy."

[paleotn]

14. Impeach.

Draft articles this weekend, present to the House and vote on Monday. Dare McTurtle to railroad this one.

[crickets]

27. Wouldn't that be wonderful?

It should happen but it won't.

[Evolve Dammit]

15. Please impeach him again. Dereliction of duty. inciting violence, tax fraud, I don't care

[BlueJac]

16. K&R

[Lonestarblue]

17. I read an article on the Politico site today about how Trump has managed to escape everything.

Whenever people think something will bring him down, it never has. It’s an absolute scary read of how Trump might pull off reelection. These paragraphs made me shudder, especially the words “it’s going to take an uphill battle for people to want to pick somebody else.” Certainly not for Democrats, but on-the-fence Republicans and Independents may be another story.

“Anger, anxiety and an onslaught of misinformation online were engines of Trump’s political ascent, and this unprecedented, disjointed general election is shaping up to be rife with all three.

“This year is going to be so scary, so volatile, so anxiety-inducing,” Carnes said, “I just think in my heart of hearts that it’s going to take a really uphill battle for people to want to pick somebody else”—an extreme version, perhaps, of what saved post-Sept. 11 George W. Bush in 2004, the strong pull to not change course even during a deeply unpopular war.”



https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/04/17/donald-trump-escape-crisis-bankruptcy-coronavirus-casino-trumpology-183513

[The Wizard]

25. How many of those who voted

for Obama yet voted for Trump will vote for him again?

[SleeplessinSoCal]

18. He surrounded himself with a mote of yes people and idiots.

McConnell ought to be removed. He is abdicating his oath of office and taking our tax dollars for himself and a select group of thieves in the night.

[UTUSN]

20. K&R

[FBaggins]

22. It does indeed exist for a reason... but this isn't it

It's harder to remove a president under 25A than through impeachment.

Let's leave the constitutional errors to the other team.

[NewJeffCT]

30. Nice thoughts

but, the TrumpGOP is cheering him on.

No way Moscow Mitch, Mike Pence and Kevin McCarthy agree that he has to go.