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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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Fri Apr 17, 2020, 03:53 PM Apr 2020

Coronavirus Outbreak May Have Started as Early as September, Scientists Say

The coronavirus outbreak could have started as early as mid-September, and the Chinese city of Wuhan may not be where it began, a scientist looking at the origins of the disease has said.

Geneticist Peter Forster, from the U.K.'s University of Cambridge, is leading a research project to understand the historical processes that led to the COVID-19 pandemic. Ultimately, they hope to identify the first person who got the virus and served as the source for the initial outbreak. By analyzing networks, they have so far been able to chart the spread of the virus, including the genetic mutations, as it moved from China to Australia, Europe and the rest of the world.

They have created a network analysis using over 1,000 coronavirus genomes. This includes patient infection date and the "type" of virus the person was infected with. There are three types—A, B and C. A is closest to the coronavirus found in bats and is thought to be the original human virus genome. This type was found in Chinese and American individuals, with mutated versions in patients from Australia and the U.S.

However, A was not the virus type found in most cases in Wuhan, the city in China where COVID-19 was first identified. Instead, most people there had type B. Researchers suggest there was a "founder event" for type B in Wuhan. Type C, the "daughter" of type B, is what was identified in early cases in Europe, as well as South Korea, Singapore and Hong Kong—but appears absent from mainland China.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/coronavirus-outbreak-may-have-started-as-early-as-september-scientists-say/ar-BB12MPqU?li=BBnb7Kz

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Coronavirus Outbreak May Have Started as Early as September, Scientists Say (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Apr 2020 #1
Here's a fascinating site that shows spread by genetic analysis. Play with controls Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #2
That Seems Reasonable, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #3

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The Magistrate

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3. That Seems Reasonable, Sir
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 04:33 PM
Apr 2020

It jibes fairly well with research conducted in 'bat caves' in Yunnan province, in which odd viruses were found in small number in villagers living near such caves, when seeking origin of the related SARS virus.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/


"Near Shitou Cave, for example, many villages sprawl among the lush hillsides in a region known for its roses, oranges, walnuts and hawthorn berries. In October 2015 Shi’s team collected blood samples from more than 200 residents in four of those villages. It found that six people, or nearly 3 percent, carried antibodies against SARS-like coronaviruses from bats—even though none of them had handled wildlife or reported SARS-like or other pneumonia-like symptoms. Only one had travelled outside of Yunnan prior to sampling, and all said they had seen bats flying in their village."

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