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texasfiddler

(1,990 posts)
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:46 PM Apr 2020

I stopped going to church 8 months ago

I have redirected my giving to Biden, 8 Democratic US Senate candidates and three swing state Democratic Parties. It feels really good. The ELCA Lutheran church isn’t a fundamentalist church. However, I believe my money is better served in this endeavor.

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I stopped going to church 8 months ago (Original Post) texasfiddler Apr 2020 OP
I stopped going about 55 years ago RussBLib Apr 2020 #1
Beat Me By 5+ Years ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #9
I never started Voltaire2 Apr 2020 #2
Why were you going in the first place? Towlie Apr 2020 #3
Hypocrisy texasfiddler Apr 2020 #11
"I have had enough with the silence." LAS14 Apr 2020 #12
If you notice I posted in that discussion texasfiddler Apr 2020 #13
Question: Has the pastor or congregation even missed you yet? Backseat Driver Apr 2020 #4
Yes texasfiddler Apr 2020 #7
god can print its own money since it seems to have a massive need for it nt msongs Apr 2020 #5
I quit going to church around the same time God did jberryhill Apr 2020 #6
I remember the day I stopped believing Goodheart Apr 2020 #8
Religion exists because many people need something to believe in, something that they Blue_true Apr 2020 #10
Televangelists want attendance. keithbvadu2 Apr 2020 #14

ProfessorGAC

(64,952 posts)
9. Beat Me By 5+ Years
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:55 PM
Apr 2020

1970. Well, that's a lie.
To make families happy we married in church, and we went to all 4 parents' funerals.
Not sure those count as "going" to church.

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
3. Why were you going in the first place?
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:50 PM
Apr 2020

You must have had a reason for going. What changed? Why is that reason no longer valid?

texasfiddler

(1,990 posts)
11. Hypocrisy
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 06:04 PM
Apr 2020

My beef isn’t with the ELCA. They are actually a pretty progressive Church. I have had enough with the silence. I can’t stand to be around Trumpers. I haven’t become an agnostic or atheist, I think The teachings of Jesus are being ignored. In a lot of ways atheists and agnostics are more empathetic like Jesus taught. The more important thing is I’m able to give a lot more money to elect Democrats without hurting my budget. That was my main point.

LAS14

(13,777 posts)
12. "I have had enough with the silence."
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 06:10 PM
Apr 2020

Silence is a problem. I've made a couple of stabs at trying to combat it. It's not that the non-fundamentalist church bodies don't speak out. It's that their voice is not covered. The link below is to an action taken by the ELCA. I started another thread, which I can no longer find, where I invited people to post good things done by main stream churches. There's tons to report, of course, as you probably know. But it sure is hard to break through the silence.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212363216

Backseat Driver

(4,385 posts)
4. Question: Has the pastor or congregation even missed you yet?
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:51 PM
Apr 2020

My experiences with Lutheran pastors and their sheep, ECLA and Missouri Synod alike: They will only miss your money and are unconcerned in manifesting the Lord's commandments to actually serve the Lord!

1) Asked to intervene in a family situation, one told me that I was too angry for spiritual intervention!

2) My FIL's pastor, called LD to ask if FIL could send his usual big check (When he could no longer stay by himself, we needed to move and find him appropriate care - no one helped then either) Pastor went on saying that the landscaping and roses were suffering from FILs lack of attention. Meanwhile, no one in the congregation had bothered to check on him at home or what yard services he might required since becoming terminally ill.

3) Out of work and desperate to get back to work to save our home, pay the utilities, and feed our kids, a member of the large congregation we attended stopped by to ask us to "try" their congregation. When hearing a polite story of our plight, he literally backed down the driveway after saying he'd "pray for us."

Damn hypocrites! Three strikes and out - I haven't attended services since; perhaps there are ones that practice what they preach. My relationship with the Lord is now personal. Where two or three are gathered together, they take far more than they give of themselves to those that suffer.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. I quit going to church around the same time God did
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:52 PM
Apr 2020

Once I realized God wasn't showing up, I figured there was no reason for me to.

Goodheart

(5,318 posts)
8. I remember the day I stopped believing
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:53 PM
Apr 2020

About 12 years old...

I asked myself "Is there really a God?"

And then I answered myself:

"If there were I'm sure I'd already know it."

So, I no longer believed.

And then all of religion started looking ludicrous to me.

Those robes and rituals inside of Catholic churches? Well, they have to dress and act that way because there's no substance behind the show. It's a facade, it's a ruse, a distraction from the truth.


Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. Religion exists because many people need something to believe in, something that they
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 06:00 PM
Apr 2020

can't control. Without that, life becomes meaningless for many people. I am a warm Deist, I believe the face of God is in nature around me and that there is a intelligent design for that. I don't need to be in a church to feel whole.

keithbvadu2

(36,722 posts)
14. Televangelists want attendance.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 06:28 PM
Apr 2020

Last edited Fri Apr 17, 2020, 07:08 PM - Edit history (1)

From previous discussions:

Televangelists want attendance.

Attendance means cash flow.

Jeffress, Pence, Robertson and their ilk are afraid that after a few months of missing church, people will find out it doesn't make any difference.

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