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Are there other "good" COVID-19 Republican governors besides... (Original Post) LAS14 Apr 2020 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Apr 2020 #1
He's a Democrat. elleng Apr 2020 #4
he's a dem, isn't he? Hamlette Apr 2020 #5
ooh sorry Skittles Apr 2020 #10
Utah's has not been bad Hamlette Apr 2020 #2
My daughter is there so I'm happy about that. liberalmuse Apr 2020 #12
MD Hogan elleng Apr 2020 #3
Yes, Hogan has acted responsibly. Marie Marie Apr 2020 #7
DeWine is a fucking worm. roamer65 Apr 2020 #6
DeWine IS A Worm, But He Handled This Crisis Well ChoppinBroccoli Apr 2020 #17
Larry Hogan in Maryland. DinahMoeHum Apr 2020 #8
no, I don't think DeWine is that great either JI7 Apr 2020 #9
Don't let your biases get in the way of people's lives. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #21
I give him credit but he hasn't called Trump out and that's a huge problem JI7 Apr 2020 #22
How would that benefit anyone? Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #23
because Republicans enable Trump , Show that this isn't a partisan issue JI7 Apr 2020 #24
Which is more important right now? Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #25
it doesn't have to be one or the other . Trump is preventing lives from being saved JI7 Apr 2020 #26
And he would prevent MORE lives from being saved if DeWine took this moment to trash him. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #27
Jim Justice BGBD Apr 2020 #11
Mike Dunleavy of Alaska. Arthur_Frain Apr 2020 #13
I hear DeSantis in Florida has been very good to the virus . . . Journeyman Apr 2020 #14
I think Maryland's governor is pretty good. Larry Hogan. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #15
I have a favorable impression of Idaho's Brad Little, yonder Apr 2020 #16
Larry Hogan of Maryland AnnieBW Apr 2020 #18
Vermont governor, Phil Scott. NT karynnj Apr 2020 #19
Hogan in Maryland democrattotheend Apr 2020 #20
Abbott in Texas has actually done an OK job LeftInTX Apr 2020 #28
Yeah, I read the posts yesterday hollering, "Texas, WTF??? re "opening" the state blaze Apr 2020 #35
Hogan in Maryland Dorian Gray Apr 2020 #29
My gov Hogan who hates trump Happyhippychick Apr 2020 #30
Sununu is New Hampshire has not been bad. He Raven Apr 2020 #31
I hate admitting that Jim Justice has been good. a la izquierda Apr 2020 #32
I think the general sense is that Eric Holcomb in Indiana has done a good job. Chiyo-chichi Apr 2020 #33
Larry Hogan of Maryland Nancy Waterman Apr 2020 #34

Response to LAS14 (Original post)

Hamlette

(15,406 posts)
2. Utah's has not been bad
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 10:17 PM
Apr 2020

The whole state is not in lockdown but the populous county is. Schools closed early. He's a Mormon and will take care of the other Mormons. It's not the worst state to be in.

liberalmuse

(18,671 posts)
12. My daughter is there so I'm happy about that.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 10:27 PM
Apr 2020

She also just moved just out of the shake zone, so isn't feeling the aftershocks now.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,778 posts)
17. DeWine IS A Worm, But He Handled This Crisis Well
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 11:04 PM
Apr 2020

A broken clock, and so forth.

Believe me, I know ALL about DeWine. My wife used to work for him when he was Attorney General. I'm actually shocked he broke ranks with Trump on ANY issue, let alone this one. But I believe in giving credit where it's due. So write this one down, because it's the first, and probably the LAST, time I'll ever give that guy credit for anything.

Ms. Toad

(33,975 posts)
21. Don't let your biases get in the way of people's lives.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:00 AM
Apr 2020

He's been faster on the shut down than any other governor, especially if you count actions taken from the first in-state diagnosis. The health care impact of Covid 19 in Ohio has barely been a ripple because of his prompt action. A number of people challenged me as to specific states so I have done a fair amount of fact-checking on the dates of key actions (declaration of the state of emergency, closure of secondary and primary schools, bans on large gatherings, closure of bars and restaurants, etc.)

Here are the recent predictions, based on the effectiveness of the intervention - https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards/forecast-model/

And, aside from being the absolute first on some things (shutting elementary schools) and being the relative first (time from first in-state case to action) on many more, he hired Dr. Acton (an Obama organizer) to run the health department specifically because he wanted to make fact-based decisions. (Not to mention that the wonderful ASL interpreter is a lesbian). So he's playing nicely across the aisle - and deferring to Acton on all things science.

We should do the same when the situation merits it.

(No, I won't be voting for him if he runs again - and no, I don't agree with him on anything else. But in this instance he has put people ahead of politics.)

Ms. Toad

(33,975 posts)
23. How would that benefit anyone?
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:12 AM
Apr 2020

Will it make Trump change? No
Will it put Ohio on Trump's shit list? Yes

So the net outcome is that there would be one more state Trump is mad at (and withholding things from), and NY would not be having their N95 masks cleaned using the new Batelle process for cleaning masks up to 20 times (the approval for which was initially denied - and only obtained because DeWine got pissed and called Trump up - and because had deliberately avoided calling Trump an idiot, Trump took his call.

So we all benefit because Ohio's numbers are staying down - and NY (and other locales) have access to a cleaning process that would not have been approved had DeWine taken the invtation that reporters throw at him daily to trash Trump.

Would it be satisfing? Absolutely. But ultimately it would cost lives.

Is it fair that Trump takes DeWine's calls and not those from the governors of Michigan and New York? Absolutely not. But would it gain anything at all for DeWine to add his name to those in the doghouse - no. More people nationwide would have lost their lives - and certainly more Ohioans.

Once we're out of the crisis, will I have a different attitude about whether DeWine has an obligation to speak up - absolutely.

But for now, I have been impressed with his political savvy and patience in holding his tongue, since his actions clearly demonstrate he has very differnt priorities than Trump on this issue.

JI7

(89,233 posts)
24. because Republicans enable Trump , Show that this isn't a partisan issue
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:15 AM
Apr 2020

that even republicans know he is shit

Ms. Toad

(33,975 posts)
25. Which is more important right now?
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:21 AM
Apr 2020

Saving lives or trashing Trump?

I've got a very clear answer to that, and it isn't trashing Trump.

I think DeWine is doing a pretty good job, by his actions that very clearly say (1) he doesn't agree with Trump and (2) he is working across the aisle with democratic governors from Michigan and Kentucky, at the very least.

Insisting that he's not doing enough right now to disagree with Trump makes it partisan politics, because it elevates political goals (getting Trump out of the white house) over people's lives (which Acton/DeWine have already saved by utilizing that relationship not just for Ohio, but for the other states that benefit from the leverage DeWine is able to assert).

Ms. Toad

(33,975 posts)
27. And he would prevent MORE lives from being saved if DeWine took this moment to trash him.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:45 AM
Apr 2020

Trump does not have the emotional maturity to restrain from actively sabotaging anyone who expressly opposes him.

So the ONLY thing DeWine trashing him right now would accomplish would be that he would be unable to do things like he did a couple of weeks ago. The fact that Trump was not boycotting him saved lives not only in Ohio, but also in New York - and any place else that is currently having their N95 masks being cleaned with the Battelle technology. Had he trashed Trump, Trump would not have taken his call - and Battelle would not have FDA approval to clean masks up to 20 times.

There is no controlling or changing Trump. All of the Republican condemnation in the world will make absolutely no difference to him - except to give him more targets for his childish tantrums.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
11. Jim Justice
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 10:24 PM
Apr 2020

of WV

He's a bumbling idiot at times, but he's been pretty aggressive on closing schools, issuing a stay at home, etc while confirmed cases in the state were very low. I hear he's just issued an order that every resident and worker in a nursing home be tested. Whoever he's listening to is putting good info in his ear. Hopefully he sticks to it and doesn't cave to pressure.

Arthur_Frain

(1,835 posts)
13. Mike Dunleavy of Alaska.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 10:28 PM
Apr 2020

Not a fan of anything else he’s done, but I will give him just props here. He was an early advocate for a statewide non essential business shutdown, and social distancing procedures. Also, he’s using the 5:00 news slot to broadcast a daily briefing which is, again to give him credit, less about him than it is about procedures being put in place and reports from local medical and response folks.

He was proactive early, and he’s legitimately trying to put factual information out there as near as I can tell. So he’s doing his job.

yonder

(9,653 posts)
16. I have a favorable impression of Idaho's Brad Little,
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 10:59 PM
Apr 2020

with respect to the virus ONLY. He signed some truly awful bills late in the session, was a bit late in locking down but this week's extension of the lockdown surprised me.

I'm guessing he was pretty much bucking the desires of his business/ag supporters and would give him a passing grade. I can't imagine his predecessor, Butch Otter being able to hold a candle to him.

AnnieBW

(10,399 posts)
18. Larry Hogan of Maryland
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 11:07 PM
Apr 2020

He's a never-Trumper. He's also a cancer survivor, so he is in a high-risk category.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
20. Hogan in Maryland
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:46 AM
Apr 2020

He's been doing a pretty good job managing the coronavirus in his state, from what I've heard, and he's been willing to be a bit critical of Trump at times, though obviously muted compared to some of the Democrats.

There are several other Republican governors who have at least imposed some form of stay at home order, including a few who recently extended them. From what I can tell the governors in Idaho, West Virginia, Indiana, and a few other states have done a not terrible job with this, and have faced some opposition from their own party with their restrictions.

LeftInTX

(25,034 posts)
28. Abbott in Texas has actually done an OK job
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 04:22 AM
Apr 2020

Shoot me!! LOL

He has some questionable Trump rhetoric out there, but his roar is worse than his bite. (Then there is Dan Patrick with his OTT stuff) Abbott has coordinated well with local authorities etc. He's actually more measured in his press conferences. I do watch his press conferences and don't feel like whirling bricks at the TV.

He kept talking about "Opening Texas" for the last week and it made me all nervous, but instead cancelled school for the rest of the year...allowed closed nonessential business to operate as curbside. (We already have few that do) I think this will allow the head shops to do curbside..LOL...Personally, I would like to see some resources used so more places can operate curbside. (He didn't say anything about that though...so I don't know) Non-elective medical procedures can be started. (We have enough hospital beds) Nursing home employees are not allowed to work at any other facility etc.

blaze

(6,329 posts)
35. Yeah, I read the posts yesterday hollering, "Texas, WTF??? re "opening" the state
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:36 AM
Apr 2020

Then I went to the link to read what they're actually doing and it sounds reasonable to me.

If restaurants can do curbside business, let's allow other retailers to do the same.

Once some of the noise subsides, I suspect Texas will claim, "First to open!!!"

The rhetorical messaging will make its way to faux news, which, I'm sure, was a driving force.

But the reality seems pretty rational to me.

https://www.kxan.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2020/04/ReOpenedRetailGuidance.pdf

Raven

(13,875 posts)
31. Sununu is New Hampshire has not been bad. He
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:10 AM
Apr 2020

has endorsed absentee ballot voting for everyone who wants to avoid going to the polls and he seems to be listening to the scientists.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
32. I hate admitting that Jim Justice has been good.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:19 AM
Apr 2020

For now. We’ll see what happens in a couple weeks.
But he sucks in every other regard.

Chiyo-chichi

(3,572 posts)
33. I think the general sense is that Eric Holcomb in Indiana has done a good job.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:28 AM
Apr 2020

I'm not going to vote for him or anything, but he put us under a stay-at-home order right after neighboring states did so--and he doesn't do out of his way to praise Trump.

We've got the likes of Senator Todd Young and Rep. Trey Hollingsworth to contend with, though.

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