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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTruth: MAGATs want to re-open because this pandemic disproportionally kills PoC, the old, & the poor
It's a greedy RW white nationalist's and a RW oligarch's wet dream.
They want to fuck up the deep blue states to lessen their population so they can steal back Electoral College votes via reduced House seats, plus make the pinkish and purple states whiter. It is a balancing act, as they do not want to kill off too many in deep red states, just enough so that the State House and State Senate seats can become even more Rethug. They also are hoping that the deep blue states have thinned out herds to the point that there is an above-average movement to them from pink/purple's more left wing types as opportunities open up via deaths. Again that is a balancing act as they do not want too many to move so that it undercuts the red states' House districts and EV and also does not replace the blue stats populations to the point they do not lose House districts/EV's.
They also want less on the dole and on Medicare and Social Security overall.
Make no mistake, there are millions of younger Rethugs who are already spending their grandparents or parents estate money in their heads. I guarantee that there have been millions of rushed, cajoled 're-write or write out for the first time' will shenanigans going on. Probably a shedload of life insurance fraud too.
I put NOTHING past these fucking monsters. NOTHING.
napi21
(45,806 posts)far from those categories of people. Doctors, atty's, sports pros. I think what you mat be seeing is well to do people don't go out anywhere. They get someone else to get their stuff while they stay home & protected.
Celerity
(43,299 posts)clue what you are on about.
Initech
(100,062 posts)I think this is all leading toward Dump resuming his MAGA hate rallies. Because he knows the virus is killing his chances of getting back out on the road and stirring up the MAGAs. Being stuck at the White House all the time is causing him to lose it big time. And by the time we're able to congregate safely in large groups again, the election will have been long over. Every day he sits alone in the White House, it costs him numbers and ratings. And every time he goes on TV, it causes the market to tank. He's basically in a lose - lose situation right now and he wants to win at all costs. He knows he can't win without those rallies.
Celerity
(43,299 posts)Initech
(100,062 posts)That is one thing I will say he does well. No stage = no audience = no chance in hell for reelection. I will say that I have enjoyed watching him squirm over the last month.
Celerity
(43,299 posts)wave to victory, and Trump's COVID-19 death would FREAK out millions of MAGATs.
They think he is a demigod atm.
Millions LITERALLY see him like this:
Initech
(100,062 posts)He was in Mar-A-Shithole the first two weeks of March, and since then we've known dozens of people who passed through there that got the virus. And that place has also become a CV hotspot in Miami. If he doesn't have it, he's definitely a carrier.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)That is how a narcissistic sociopath would think.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)I think you are giving them for too much credit. I doubt if they have thought it through to that extent. They just want to open things up again because theyre tired of having their kids at home and being out of work. At least that is my opinion.
Celerity
(43,299 posts)Before you dismiss that as being above the buffoon ass-clown Trump's intellectual paygrade (it vastly is), just take a reconnoitre of the insane level of scientific EXACTNESS and detailed rapier-like precision that they utilised for partisan gerrymandering. They had it down to not just street-level cleavages, but in some cases, apartment complex and uni dorm building level.
The Secret Files of the Master of Modern Republican Gerrymandering
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-secret-files-of-the-master-of-modern-republican-gerrymandering
Thomas Hofeller preached secrecy as he remapped American politics from the shadows. The Republican Party operative, known as the master of the modern gerrymander, trained other G.O.P. operatives and legislators nationwide to secure their computer networks, guard access to their maps, and never send e-mails that they didnt want to see published by the news media. In training sessions for state legislators and junior line drawers, he used a PowerPoint presentation that urged them to avoid recklessness and always be discreet, and warned that emails are the tool of the devil. Hofeller did not follow his own advice. Before his death, in August, 2018, he saved at least seventy thousand files and several years of e-mails. A review of those records and e-mailswhich were recently obtained first by The New Yorkerraises new questions about whether Hofeller unconstitutionally used race data to draw North Carolinas congressional districts, in 2016. They also suggest that Hofeller was deeply involved in G.O.P. mapmaking nationwide, and include new trails for more potential lawsuits challenging Hofellers work, similar to the one on Wednesday which led to the overturning of his state legislative maps in North Carolina.
Hofellers files include dozens of intensely detailed studies of North Carolina college students, broken down by race and cross-referenced against the state drivers-license files to determine whether these students likely possessed the proper I.D. to vote. The studies are dated 2014 and 2015, the years before Hofeller helped Republicans in the state redraw its congressional districts in ways that voting-rights groups said discriminated on the basis of race. North Carolina Republicans said that the maps discriminated based on partisanship but not race. Hofellers hard drive also retained a map of North Carolinas 2017 state judicial gerrymander, with an overlay of the black voting-age population by district, suggesting that these mapswhich are currently at the center of a protracted legal battlemight also be a racial gerrymander. Other files provide new details about Hofellers work for Republicans across the country. Hofeller collected data on the citizen voting-age population in North Carolina, Texas, and Arizona, among other states, as far back as 2011. Hofeller was part of a Republican effort to add a citizenship question to the census, which would have allowed political parties to obtain more precise citizenship data ahead of the 2020 redistricting cycle. State legislative lines could then have been drawn based on the number of citizen voters, which Hofeller believed would make it easier to pack Democrats and minorities into fewer districts, giving an advantage to Republicans.
Other documents show that Hofeller was hired by a Massachusetts Republican who sought to use the Voting Rights Act provision for majority/minority seats to draw a single district containing all of Boston, so that Republicans could make inroads into an otherwise entirely Democratic congressional delegation. Hofeller drew several sets of maps, but the effort went nowhere. Additional files document his work in Mississippi, Alabama, and Virginia, among other states. E-mails also connect Hofeller to redistricting efforts in Florida. Top Republican officials in the state have denied that they played any official role in drawing the states legislative and congressional districts in 2011. A 2010 state constitutional amendment barred partisan gerrymandering in Florida. E-mails show that Hofeller communicated with and visited top G.O.P. political operatives in Florida in 2011. The operatives helped organize or draw state legislative and congressional maps that matched the districts that were later enacted. The operatives insisted, at a trial, that drawing the maps was only a hobby. A Florida judge found that argument unconvincing, concluding that the G.O.P. conducted a stealth redistricting operation that snuck partisan maps into the public process and made a mockery of the states constitutional amendments.
The files mostly pertain to Hofellers work in North Carolina, where he drewand defended in courtthe states legislative and congressional maps multiple times, after judges ruled them to be either unconstitutionally partisan or racial gerrymanders. The congressional lines that he helped draw in 2016 were struck down by a federal court as a partisan gerrymander; that decision was vacated this past June, in a 54 ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court. Perhaps one of the clearest and ugliest gerrymanders in North Carolinaor in the entire nationis the congressional-district line that cuts in half the nations largest historically black college, North Carolina A&T State University, in Greensboro. The district line divided this majority minority campusand the cityso precisely that it all but guarantees it will be represented in Congress by two Republicans for years to come. North Carolina Republicans have long denied that this line, between the states Sixth and Thirteenth Congressional Districts, was intentionally drawn to dilute black voting power, which would be a violation of the constitutional prohibition against racial gerrymandering.
A map of Greensboro shows precincts color-coded by race and age.
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tulipsandroses
(5,122 posts)They just want to open things up again because theyre tired of having their kids at home and being out of work
Riiiiight, that's why they show up at these protests armed, with Trump signs, maga hats, swastikas,
Yup - they just want to go back to work and have the kiddies in school.
Sounds a lot like that "economic anxiety" of the white working class that helped get trump elected.
JI7
(89,246 posts)solution is to deal with this fucking virus and that involves having their fucking kids home until we can actually start getting some change.
JI7
(89,246 posts)or at least they think or hope he is. it goes with their support of his caging and other fucked up treatment of brown kids and puerto rico.