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Seeking to avoid the bitter feelings that marred the 2016 Democratic convention, Joe Bidens campaign is angling to allow Bernie Sanders to keep some of the delegates he would otherwise forfeit by dropping out of the presidential race.
Under a strict application of party rules, Sanders should lose about a third of the delegates hes won in primaries and caucuses as the process moves ahead and states select the actual people who will attend the Democratic National Convention. The rules say those delegates should be Biden supporters, as he is the only candidate still actively seeking the partys nomination.
Quiet talks between the two campaigns center on allowing Sanders to keep some of his delegates, essentially a goodwill gesture from a presumptive nominee seeking to court Sanders progressive supporters and unite the party. It is not yet settled how many.
We feel strongly that it is in the best interest of the party to ensure that the Sanders campaign receives statewide delegates to reflect the work that they have done to contribute to the movement that will beat Donald Trump this fall, said a Biden official, who wasnt authorized to discuss private negotiations publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. We are in discussion with them now on how to best accomplish that.
Sanders campaign declined to comment on the talks. Nothing to add from us, said Sanders spokesman Mike Casca.
https://apnews.com/fcba9e4dcd0732de71587c9b57ac1d53
McKim
(2,412 posts)The word placating seems a bit inflammatory. We need to calm things down. We should be able to finish the primaries and see how much support Sanders had or has. Sanders ideas should be respected and folded into the party platform. Thats how they do it in Europe, cooperation and compromise and moving forward together. What is is about America that we just love to fight?
Have the Trump years had an affect on us to ramp up that fighting spirit instead of a cooperative spirit?
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Definition of placate: to soothe or mollify especially by concessions
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/placate
inflammatory ?
The Magistrate
(95,241 posts)The fact is, Sanders has not really shown yet he can be trusted to refrain from executing his standing threat to disrupt the convention and harm the Party's general election effort. I leave to Mr. Biden how best to defang him, and will not dispute what course Mr. Biden and Co. adopt.
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)He asserts control over the Party in a way that reminds me of Nancy Pelosi who almost always wears her velvet glove over her iron fist.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I have seen both from her.
-Laelth
AJT
(5,240 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Definition of placate: to soothe or mollify especially by concessions
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/placate
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I was unaware of its existence. Thank you for posting.
-Laelth
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Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)You never say "F You" to almost a third of the Party base, as measured by who bothered to vote in the primaries. Those are the Sanders people WHO DID SHOW UP TO VOTE FOR HIM. Giving them the finger is simply dumb and verges on political malpractice,with a potentially close hugely important election looming. It's one thing to write off a fringe that claims Joe Biden isn't "pure enough" to vote for, it is exceedingly different to alienate voters who are inclined to vote Democratic in November. And the vast majority of those who voted for Sanders fall into the latter category. I trust Joe Biden is astute at managing political coalitions.
TexasTowelie
(111,910 posts)than there are two standard deviations left of the mean.
thesquanderer
(11,970 posts)The Magistrate
(95,241 posts)The handful of squeaker wins that put the cheap thug in the White House owed in large part to leftists who voted third party or sat on their hands and didn't bother to vote.
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for.".
thesquanderer
(11,970 posts)The Magistrate
(95,241 posts)That 'where it counted' margin owed to nothing he had done, but to what people on the left failed to do, or declined to do.
And the point at issue here is, will Sanders' followers do the same again?
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."
thesquanderer
(11,970 posts)(It was in response to TexasTowelie's post.)
The Magistrate
(95,241 posts)Part of the problem is that explicit appeal to the left alienates the center, and it becomes a question of whether more votes can be got on the left than will be lost in the center. This year the energy is middle of the road types grown disgusted with the cheap thug. Too open a courting of the further left elements, too obvious a placating of Sanders, will cost many of these voters. They will not likely vote for the cheap thug, but they will sit on their hands. The left has gotten itself into this position by demonstrating both its unreliability as a bloc, and its relatively small number as a portion of the general electorate. It is a shame, and I wish it were otherwise, but it is how things stand.
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."
musclecar6
(1,684 posts)From the left side of our party. We absolutely need all of them to come out and vote for Joe. The LAST thing we should do is disrespect and piss them off, as they are democrats just like the rest of the party and they have some good ideas that can be folded into our more moderate positions as we go forward after Joe takes office.
TexasTowelie
(111,910 posts)you will see "progressives" that have no intention of voting for Biden no matter how far to the left he moves. They call Biden a corporatist and they are going to vote for the Green Party instead. They even are calling the candidates that they supported (Gabbard, Sanders, and Warren) sellouts to the progressive movement. They learned absolutely nothing from the 2016 general election.
JI7
(89,239 posts)social issues to me. And they seem resentful of diversity .
That's how they come off to me. They want to stick it to people of color and women who support those different from them.
question everything
(47,425 posts)This, in addition the Biden campaign adopting some of the Sanders' ideas. And if, as reported,
negotiations between the two campaigns also involve discussions about Biden's future cabinet, including which progressives will go where, as well as who cannot play a role. Also banning anyone who has worked on or near Wall Street, the fossil-fuel industry, the health-insurance sector and the lobbying world, to name a few.
Traditionally, once winning the nomination candidates move to the cener. Here, it appears, the move it to the left.