6000+ USA deaths reported in past 24 hours. Topic should be testing and mitigation, not re-opening.

[greyl]

Last edited Sun Apr 19, 2020, 02:20 PM - Edit history (1)

"Note: As of 4/17, the number of cases and deaths now include probable cases to match the new CDC guidelines. This contributed to the spike in new deaths displayed for 4/17, which includes 4,226 probable deaths."

Trump has a way of layering lie upon lie, so that while an entity is fact checking and refuting one lie whilst ignoring another, it's giving the other lie credence and airtime. This happened with "the transcript." (it wasn't a transcript)

It's as if the White House were on fire, and Trump starts picking out ugly replacement furniture, and media forget to focus on efforts to put out the fire because they're distracted by tacky decorating.


↑ 19% (+6171 past 24hr) https://infection2020.com/

Link to tweet

[struggle4progress]

1. "It's our 9/11 AND Pearl Harbor dat"

[ProfessorGAC]

18. Times 6

So far.

[Blue Owl]

2. K&R

[BigmanPigman]

3. I almost choked then realized that number is for the whole world

and not the US alone.

Increases like this must be noted and made public, especially with the misinformation that the GOP is spreading to allow for the opening of businesses to help their reelection as it is tied to the economy.

A second wave is hitting many countries already and now some, not all...way too inconsistent, are reporting "probable deaths". The numbers will never be accurate as long as China, Russia, N Korea, Brazil, etc (including the US) don't report all of their deaths. Some countries are reporting more as are some states and cities, such as NY, per CDC guidelines...

"Following new CDC guidelines: "As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement issued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease."
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/us-data/

[greyl]

5. No, sadly, that data is US only.

"Nationwide Live Data" means The USA. That website does not show data from other countries.

Note: As of 4/17, the number of cases and deaths now include probable cases to match the new CDC guidelines. This contributed to the spike in deaths shown recently.

[BigmanPigman]

7. Look at this link...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

World, New Deaths.....6,505


And this includes the "new"/"probable" deaths made this week per CDC guidelines..
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/us-data/

[greyl]

8. Thank you. That link says there are 140 new deaths in the world, and USA at +1.

However, the data presented at https://infection2020.com/ is consistent within itself. According to historical data compiled there, the US reported death toll rose 6000+ in the past 24 hours.

[BigmanPigman]

9. Look at the clock at the top of the page...

It is updated throughout the day based on the GMT. You are looking at today's numbers. Go to the link and click "yesterday" right above the chart on the left. It says Now or Yesterday. When you read "now" it is meaning tomorrow in GMT. The numbers you see now are 4:00 SUNDAY GMT, not Saturday.

[greyl]

10. Testing and Mitigation, Not Re-Opening.

Latest US data:

39,173 deaths ↑ 19% (+6346 past 24hr)

Link to tweet

[BigmanPigman]

11. I just looked at your link and copied this from it...

Deaths
39,174
↑ 5% (+2017 past 24hr)

[greyl]

12. New Deaths 4/17, 6393. nt

[obamanut2012]

16. The US did NOT have 6K+ deaths on 4/17

Not anywhere close to that, it's around 2k -- please quit posting and defending the 6K -- you are spreading misinformation.

You are 100% factually wrong, no matter how many c/p you keep doing.

The actual number is horrific enough without misinformation and exaggeration.

[greyl]

21. I explained that in post #5 above. nt

[drray23]

4. I don't think it's correct.

Its the only website reporting this number. Others more reliable ones all indicate we went from 37 to 39 k ( 1867 deaths) in the past 24hours, not 6000.

[greyl]

6. Site attributes 4883 of them yesterday to NYS.

Plus, note:

"Note: As of 4/17, the number of cases and deaths now include probable cases to match the new CDC guidelines. This contributed to the spike in deaths shown recently."

[Rhiannon12866]

13. Says there were 94 reported cases in my NY county, 0 deaths

But according to the local paper, as of the beginning of this week there were 2. Maybe it needs to catch up.

[obamanut2012]

17. That does not mean what you think it means

It is a readjustment of certain cases, China recently did the same thing. It does not mean 6K+ people died in the US, or that almost 5K did in one day in NY.

[luvallpeeps]

14. I like that analogy.

Very well put. Layer after layer of lies. Trump is a matryoshka doll of lies.


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[wishstar]

15. The 6,000 death toll only occurred on April 14 as NY added nearly 4,000 probable deaths

Yesterday's daily total was below 2,000 where most recent days have been hovering. Quite possible that it could spike upward in next week or so though as cases in other places tick upwards. These charts from NBC that are updated each evening give most accurate numbers and explanation I have seen:

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-deaths-united-states-each-day-2020-n1177936

[greyl]

20. True, I've added that note throughout this thread. nt

[USALiberal]

19. Your data is incorrect, self delete! nt