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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 09:07 AM Apr 2020

Becoming pretty clear to me that Trump followers will usher in the 2nd deadly wave of infections

...I see it at my job where a department manager was resisting our state law to mask-up where social distancing isn't possible, refusing to fully comply and loudly proclaiming that folks insisting he should follow our new state regs were just trying to make Trump look bad. I'm not kidding, a grown man with responsibility for the safety of customers and associates alike is playing political games with a highly infectious virus.

Another fellow brought in from another store to help out played dumb when asked to mask-up tonight, claiming the manager at his home store wasn't requiring it. It's beyond ignorance, at this point, to resist guidelines and laws meant to stop the spread of the coronavirus. It's become a malicious, political act for some people refusing to wear a face mask in public, or follow any of the basic protections like distancing and hand-washing.

It goes without saying that these are the people we should be avoiding like the plague. But there's more at stake than our own personal safety in allowing them to go unchallenged. Thing is, their displays of umbrage and anger at the regulations is no match for the fear, anguish, and outrage felt by those in the nation who find their safety compromised by crowded housing, infected nursing homes, unprotected workplaces.

We know who suffers for these clowns' refusal to take this virus outbreak seriously. It's their workers, neighbors, passengers on public transportation, fellow shoppers, and others in their way who they put at risk. It's also the health and medical care workers who also, ultimately, will be made to bear consequences of these fools' irresponsibility.

These brazen displays by conservative flacks of reckless indifference to their own health and safety, as well as others, can be laid squarely at the feet of President Trump and his republican party. Never in my lifetime have I witnessed such reckless disregard for such a broad swath of American citizen's lives from a U.S. president, and it's already influencing followers to the extent that they're emulating him, like virus suicide bombers.

We need to get our own anger out there, get a flurry of breathless reports on Americans fed up with being threatened by capitalists looking to put us to work without testing the population to determine the actual scope and scale of the infections in our midst. Without that knowledge, and as long as Trump can keep that information from Americans, we are like sheep to the slaughter.

One way to get attention would be to rally many American's reluctance to return to unsafe workplaces - checkmating overt moves by the government to send workers back into dangerous situations, with a deliberate, organized strikes. We need to find a way to bring our anger forward and keep it there until we vote in November.

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Becoming pretty clear to me that Trump followers will usher in the 2nd deadly wave of infections (Original Post) bigtree Apr 2020 OP
... handmade34 Apr 2020 #1
+1 Hugin Apr 2020 #3
This might be the best thing I've ever seen oswaldactedalone Apr 2020 #5
This didn't seem real to me... Takket Apr 2020 #6
People should contribute to Snopes. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2020 #10
What these people fail to realize is that one of the only reasons they aren't sick... Hugin Apr 2020 #2
Report Them JimGinPA Apr 2020 #4
oh, absolutely bigtree Apr 2020 #7
The problem is now duforsure Apr 2020 #8
Hopefully in the midwest we get this under control before the nice weather starts Buckeyeblue Apr 2020 #9
there will be a strike, but not the way you think RazzleCat Apr 2020 #11
+1. This will leave a lasting scar. People will go back to the bare essentials and hoard cash. dalton99a Apr 2020 #13
K&R 2naSalit Apr 2020 #12
Beginning of March...not many known active cases...not much testing going on...what's different? gulliver Apr 2020 #14
But but but who would have seen THIS coming? PCIntern Apr 2020 #15
Yep, look for another wave right around Mother's Day gratuitous Apr 2020 #16
like a rolling wave bigtree Apr 2020 #17
In honor of Pence Blue Owl Apr 2020 #18
Second wave of the Spanish flu in 1918-19 albacore Apr 2020 #19

Takket

(21,560 posts)
6. This didn't seem real to me...
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 09:30 AM
Apr 2020

A donkey letting itself be carried? And small enough for a soldier to carry it on his back?

Well, the picture is real! But the story and war are different...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/soldier-carrying-donkey/

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
2. What these people fail to realize is that one of the only reasons they aren't sick...
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 09:13 AM
Apr 2020

is because the majority of people are protecting them by following the protocols.

Morons.

And, screw Trump for politicizing a pandemic... For personal gain. And, screw every single Republican for allowing him to do so.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
7. oh, absolutely
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 09:35 AM
Apr 2020

...but you can see where their chicanery influences and affects the workers, and not everything can be effectively challenged without potentially putting yourself at risk.

I've never been one to worry about my own hide, in these situations, but I've found over the decades (in many different work settings) that my vigilance and activism is a rarity in the workplace.

Trump politicizing it all is another obstacle in workplace situations where concerns for health and safety are regulary brushed aside by managers concerned more with the business of the day. My wife's workplace, a smaller store, is even worse. Managers there wear Trumpian politics on their sleeve like it's hearalding some master race of idiots like them.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
8. The problem is now
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 09:58 AM
Apr 2020

Trump and Moscow Mitch are refusing giving money directly to the American people, and trying to starve us back to work while an active pandemic is attacking with less than 1% tested.trump and the GOP are putting the economy first for their re-elections over our welfare and health. I expect this to backfire causing lawsuits for years against those involved, including trump, who will be out of office soon. He's lying and knows it's too soon but desperate, and could care less while he pressures others into doing this now. With less than 1% tested this is doomed to fail, and will spread it even more.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
9. Hopefully in the midwest we get this under control before the nice weather starts
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:07 AM
Apr 2020

I'm concerned that people will not stay home once it gets nice out.

RazzleCat

(732 posts)
11. there will be a strike, but not the way you think
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:56 AM
Apr 2020

I know that even if they lift all the restrictions, I will not be going back to the way I was. Two major reasons, one, the virus has not gone away, I will need to continue to stay away (compromised immune system here). So I will not be joining. I am not alone, millions will not be returning to normal. I am retired so I can just stay home. Now lets look at number two, its part of number one. We are a consumer economy. So take those who do go back to work, the majority are in financial pain, as in in debt, so they will only be spending on must haves, food, housing, utilities, debit maintenance (loans credit card etc.). No new TV's, no new clothing, i.e. no consuming. Remember, consumer economy, so no consuming, and the economy will not recover. No recovery the job loss will continue. The economy can not begin recover with out at the minimum testing of all workers, continued use of PPE and social distancing of those like me who can't take the chance. I do not believe it will recover with out a vaccine, or a burning out of the virus some sort of heard immunity.

Your strike will not be a big riot type, but a quiet one of peoples not participating in consuming, not really going back out, rather just staying home in general and hoarding there resources (money), while waiting for the next shoe to drop.

dalton99a

(81,451 posts)
13. +1. This will leave a lasting scar. People will go back to the bare essentials and hoard cash.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 11:40 AM
Apr 2020

If it runs, they'll keep it until it's dead


gulliver

(13,180 posts)
14. Beginning of March...not many known active cases...not much testing going on...what's different?
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 11:50 AM
Apr 2020

It seems like this "open it up" stuff is just moving the record player needle back to the beginning of the record and expecting a different tune.

We've worked hard to get these numbers to start flattening and going down. But they're all still a lot higher than they were when this social distancing started. With paltry levels of testing (thanks to Trump and his Republicans) now, how are we that different from the situation we had early on?

PCIntern

(25,532 posts)
15. But but but who would have seen THIS coming?
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 11:53 AM
Apr 2020

And he will blame the “democrat” (sic and sick) governors or in states he needs, he will blame the Chinese or whomever...maybe it’s Rachel Maddow’s fault...

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. Yep, look for another wave right around Mother's Day
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:10 PM
Apr 2020

That's when all the clusters in Minnesota, Virginia, and Michigan should start showing symptoms of their cross-infectious ways. Will the major media be able to discern that bright line connection?

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
17. like a rolling wave
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 01:48 PM
Apr 2020

...instead of a precipitous drop before the next peaking of infection.

The curve would flatten, but stay high. Failing to beat it down at all should make it pretty clear these stupid ones who are getting infected by not sheltering or distancing are re-spreading it.

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