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deminks

(11,014 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 08:29 PM Apr 2020

The White House Has Erected A Blockade Stopping States and Hospitals From Getting Coronavirus PPE

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/hospitals-face-a-white-house-blockade-for-coronavirus-ppe.html

Whenever you start to think that the federal government under Donald Trump has hit a moral bottom, it finds a new way to shock and horrify.

Over the last few weeks, it has started to appear as though, in addition to abandoning the states to their own devices in a time of national emergency, the federal government has effectively erected a blockade — like that which the Union used to choke off the supply chains of the Confederacy during the Civil War — to prevent delivery of critical medical equipment to states desperately in need. At the very least, federal authorities have made governors and hospital executives all around the country operate in fear that shipments of necessary supplies will be seized along the way. In a time of pandemic, having evacuated federal responsibility, the White House is functionally waging a war against state leadership and the initiative of local hospitals to secure what they need to provide sufficient treatment.

(snip)

You could call this piracy. You could call it sanctions. The federal government is choking supply chains to states like it chokes supply chains to Iran and North Korea. These blockades aren’t as complete as those surrounding sanctioned regimes, of course, and some amount of the disruption may be honest confusion in a time of crisis. But the disruption is being brought about by federal interference, and unlike the kind of disruptions you’d want to engineer against antagonistic states, the purpose seems completely unclear — indeed the policy is inexplicable and indefensible.

Which may be one reason why no explanation has been given. We don’t know where these supplies are going. We don’t know on what grounds they are being seized, or threatened with seizure. What business do the DHS and FEMA have with ventilators and PPE purchases by governors and local hospitals? “This is like a story out of the last days of the Soviet Union,” David Frum wrote on Twitter, of the NEJM letter. “This is what it means to be a failed state,” wrote the essayist Umair Haque, echoing him. In the absence of an explanation, it is hard to come to any conclusion other than that this is simply mafia government, exerting control for the sake of control, not in spite of but because of the crisis-led demand, and squeezing the American people, as they die in hospital beds and attend — with inadequate protection — to the sick and scared.

(end snip)

"...a story out of the last days of the Soviet Union."

This is NOT FAILURE. This is DELIBERATE.
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The White House Has Erected A Blockade Stopping States and Hospitals From Getting Coronavirus PPE (Original Post) deminks Apr 2020 OP
It's obviously deliberate. Laelth Apr 2020 #1
A psychopath doesn't need an objective. littlemissmartypants Apr 2020 #9
You're right, of course. Laelth Apr 2020 #13
It was obviously DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #34
these shits were going to use ebola 2020 like 2014 and then went with covid instead and certainot Apr 2020 #23
Pretty simple really, KS Toronado Apr 2020 #28
Are they that brazen? Laelth Apr 2020 #29
Jarrad is selling them to the Saudi Royals McCamy Taylor Apr 2020 #2
Eventually I expect Trump and Jared to get into a DURHAM D Apr 2020 #3
Ivanka? DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #35
Yup. Just like Fischer Island. Baitball Blogger Apr 2020 #26
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Apr 2020 #4
Consigning Blue States to death. no_hypocrisy Apr 2020 #5
That's my first suspicion. We need more info. We need hospitals and governors to speak out. Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2020 #6
We should be checking with Republican governors too Captain Zero Apr 2020 #15
THIS Mike Niendorff Apr 2020 #24
K&R SheltieLover Apr 2020 #7
I want to know about the equipment that California Sogo Apr 2020 #8
Massachusetts..... DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #36
One of the states should sue the WH and try to get an injunction. QED Apr 2020 #10
It has been deliberate and meticulously planned. wendyb-NC Apr 2020 #11
Trump wants governors (especially blue states) to beg procon Apr 2020 #12
Perhaps some insider will open up the door and let us look inside.. Stuart G Apr 2020 #14
Deep Throat Swab. eggplant Apr 2020 #18
We already have more than enough evidence of his bs JI7 Apr 2020 #20
Trump has been talking to Putin a lot lately, gab13by13 Apr 2020 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Ilsa Apr 2020 #17
Grrrr! smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #19
Follow the money. Joinfortmill Apr 2020 #21
Dotard passes the responsibility and denies the ability to accomplish the task. keithbvadu2 Apr 2020 #22
It boggles my mind that this shit is being allowed to continue. GoCubsGo Apr 2020 #25
Perhaps they are stockpiling it for use by the military OregonBlue Apr 2020 #27
We need some intrepid investigative journalists to dig up where these federally confiscated scarletwoman Apr 2020 #30
We are at war xyoungblood Apr 2020 #31
It is murder. sheshe2 Apr 2020 #32
The GAO is on the job. Finally, Trump is going to pay for his crimes. Joinfortmill Apr 2020 #33

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
1. It's obviously deliberate.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 08:35 PM
Apr 2020

What’s scary and confusing is that we don’t know what the objectives of this policy are. We don’t even know what the policy IS. It’s completely obscured, and this is the Federal Government of the United States. Something is very wrong, here.



-Laelth

littlemissmartypants

(22,628 posts)
9. A psychopath doesn't need an objective.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 09:30 PM
Apr 2020

Chaos and pain are integral parts of their existence. It's what they do, hurt and destroy. This is who we have at the helm, a psychopath and his minions. The pain and destruction should come as no surprise.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
13. You're right, of course.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:00 PM
Apr 2020

But that’s far from comforting. Honestly, I have no clue what the federal seizures of medical supplies to states and individual hospitals is about. It’s rare for the federal government to be this murky and arbitrary without any stated goal.



-Laelth

DENVERPOPS

(8,802 posts)
34. It was obviously
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 07:51 PM
Apr 2020

to get free supplies for Jared and Ivanka to peddle as middlemen to make a 6X profits for Trump Inc......

That, and to kill the Elderly who weren't going to vote for them anyway....

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
23. these shits were going to use ebola 2020 like 2014 and then went with covid instead and
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 11:18 PM
Apr 2020

are now trying to make sure it's going to last until they can cancel the elections.

because democcrats and the left ignore talk radio they know they can sell it to the base

KS Toronado

(17,187 posts)
28. Pretty simple really,
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 01:30 PM
Apr 2020

donnie and jared figured out how to make under the table money off of people's sufferings. Remember jared saying the national stockpile belongs to him/us? Hopefully their SCAM will come to light before Nov.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
29. Are they that brazen?
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 01:47 PM
Apr 2020

Perhaps, but it looks to me that there’s no plan beyond “seize everything.” I don’t think that they have a plan for distributing “their” stockpile.



-Laelth

DURHAM D

(32,607 posts)
3. Eventually I expect Trump and Jared to get into a
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 08:37 PM
Apr 2020

gigantic fight over the war profits that Jared is amassing as I type. Donald will think it should be his. Jared and Ivanka will divorce over the money fight.

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
26. Yup. Just like Fischer Island.
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 08:45 AM
Apr 2020

The University of Miami supplied that private island with coronavirus tests. Trump is collecting to supply his political ambitions. I hope he faces federal trials.

Captain Zero

(6,799 posts)
15. We should be checking with Republican governors too
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:18 PM
Apr 2020

Like Holcomb in Indiana. A reporter should ask that amid reports that states have ordered supplies only to see them be intercepted without payment by the Federal Government is he seeing any instances of that happening to Indiana's PPE orders? Ask that of every Republican Governor.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
8. I want to know about the equipment that California
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 09:27 PM
Apr 2020

managed to purchase in conjunction with private, non-profit organizations.

Newsom announced on Rachel's show a week or two ago that they were going to be getting shipments of 200million masks per week/month (?). I cringed when he made that announcement, wondering if the Feds were listening and would confiscate their shipments.

DENVERPOPS

(8,802 posts)
36. Massachusetts.....
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 08:00 PM
Apr 2020

The Governor flew the supplies his State ordered in by privately owned jets, non-stop flights from China, the Mass. National Guard (armed) met the planes on the tarmac with two privately owned semi's waiting, then had those trucks escorted by the State Patrol (armed) to the Mass Hospitals. Fight fire with fire.....

It is un-fathomable that we should have to go to that extent to protect our citizens from the President of the United States......ludicrous, un-imaginable, etc etc etc

I am honestly afraid that this may represent our future if they get their way...

QED

(2,747 posts)
10. One of the states should sue the WH and try to get an injunction.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 09:33 PM
Apr 2020

It's criminal what they are doing.

procon

(15,805 posts)
12. Trump wants governors (especially blue states) to beg
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 09:38 PM
Apr 2020

him for help. Maybe he fantasies a long line of worshippers singing his praised while flogging themselves as they crawl up the steps of Trump's new gold painted ziggurat to kiss his feet and plead for the equipment needed to save the lives of their people.

Trump's pretty damn close to demanding human sacrifice, or do the people who have already died while he was partying with his rally boys and denying there was any problem, count?

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
14. Perhaps some insider will open up the door and let us look inside..
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:07 PM
Apr 2020

...This happened in Watergate, it happened in other crises, and could happen again..

...Could this happen? Maybe or maybe not. It ain't up to me, it is up to an "inside source."

JI7

(89,244 posts)
20. We already have more than enough evidence of his bs
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:50 PM
Apr 2020

the problem is people like mcconnell and his supporters who want to let him get away with his shit.

gab13by13

(21,286 posts)
16. Trump has been talking to Putin a lot lately,
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:20 PM
Apr 2020

just saying. If Putin has dirt on Trump, Trump would destroy our country to keep it hidden.

Trump may make a huge mistake by underestimating the power of this virus.

Response to deminks (Original post)

keithbvadu2

(36,724 posts)
22. Dotard passes the responsibility and denies the ability to accomplish the task.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 11:08 PM
Apr 2020

Dotard passes the responsibility and denies the ability to accomplish the task.

And then he will throw the blame.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
27. Perhaps they are stockpiling it for use by the military
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 12:37 PM
Apr 2020

and law enforcement in preparation for martial law.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
30. We need some intrepid investigative journalists to dig up where these federally confiscated
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:44 PM
Apr 2020

supplies are going!

If nothing else, we need one of the White House press corps to bring up the question at the next Trump shit show.

 

xyoungblood

(36 posts)
31. We are at war
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 04:14 PM
Apr 2020

the soldiers on the front lines are dying because of inadequate and dwindling supplies, they scrounge and locate supplies, order them and then the guy "leading" the war, steals them and then sells them to other countries. Leaving our soldiers to die. In this case, the soldiers are the hospital workers and other front line workers.

And the Republicans are silent.

This is the country we live in now.

And if the Dems take the presidency, house and senate they better stomp the Republican party into dust to avenge everyone who has died in this ongoing Republican fuck up. But that is a dream. Biden will put on his knee pads and cross the aisle, and Pelosi will release a strongly worded statement....because Democrats.



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