Alarmed as COVID patients' blood thickened, New York doctors try new treatments

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HEALTH NEWS APRIL 22, 2020 / 9:40 AM / UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO

NEW YORK (Reuters) - As the novel coronavirus spread through New York City in late March, doctors at Mount Sinai Hospital noticed something strange happening to patients’ blood.

Signs of blood thickening and clotting were being detected in different organs by doctors from different specialties. This would turn out to be one of the alarming ways the virus ravages the body, as doctors there and elsewhere were starting to realize.

At Mount Sinai, nephrologists noticed kidney dialysis catheters getting plugged with clots. Pulmonologists monitoring COVID-19 patients on mechanical ventilators could see portions of lungs were oddly bloodless. Neurosurgeons confronted a surge in their usual caseload of strokes due to blood clots, the age of victims skewing younger, with at least half testing positive for the virus.

“It’s very striking how much this disease causes clots to form,” Dr. J Mocco, a Mount Sinai neurosurgeon, said in an interview, describing how some doctors think COVID-19, the illness caused by the coronavirus, is more than a lung disease. In some cases, Mocco said, a stroke was a young patient’s first symptom of COVID-19.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-blood/alarmed-as-covid-patients-blood-thickened-new-york-doctors-try-new-treatments-idUSKCN22421Z

Was watching last night on Hayes shows, and he had a doctor on that was describing what it was like to see the patients coming in and saying, I am paraphrasing ...................imagine these patients trying to breath, they are at 29,000 feet just like being on Mount Everest, they are huffing and puffing trying to get oxygen into there lungs because the lungs cannot get enough oxygen, and they are trying to expel the carbon dioxide in the lungs, and the lungs cannot get rid of the carbon monoxide fast enough, and they are not getting enough oxygen, that's what happens when your at 29,000 feet you are suffocating because of the lack of oxygen............................and now this report............and libertarians are re-opening parts of the country...........

[SWBTATTReg]

1. I wonder if this is an attempt by the body to slow the movement of the CV into the human...

host? That is, by forming clots, slows the blood flow to the body, thus inhibiting the flow of the CV throughout the body? Or, are the clots a response to the body's damage from the CV (sounds likely too). This bug seems to have all kinds of tricks up its sleeves, in order to propagate itself.

[Mike 03]

3. Maybe.

I was wondering, could the virus either be deactivating something in the body that prevents clotting, or contributing something that causes the clotting?

Is there something that is like the opposite of Vitamin K (which helps clotting) in the body that could be inactivated by the virus?

Just wondering aloud...

[SWBTATTReg]

4. Interesting to speculate. Perhaps this will guide our esteemed medical professionals to help...

pinpoint some medical solutions, but it seems like we're learning something new everyday. The Coronavirus toes, this (the clotting), etc. (I hope nothing else).

Be safe!

[Mike 03]

5. You be safe too!

Thanks

Putting aside how scared I am, this is incredibly fascinating. I can't stop wondering about this virus.

[Mike 03]

2. Chilling, bizarre.

Mocco called neurosurgeons he knows elsewhere in the country. At Philadelphia’s Thomas Jefferson University Hospital, Dr. Pascal Jabbour had begun to see a similar surge in strokes among people with COVID-19. The way his patients’ blood congealed reminded him of congenital conditions such as lupus, or certain cancers.

“I’ve never seen any other viruses causing that,” Jabbour said.

[GreenPartyVoter]

6. Need to pick up some fish oil.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

7. Interesting. A nephew sent me a study from China...

... a couple weeks ago about how the Coronavirus attacked the hemoglobin of red blood cells too, in vitro.

That nephew is a conspiracy idiot, to be honest, but I still looked into it.

The report was written by a couple Chinese guys working in computer science, it appeared, and I stopped reading about it at that point.

This blood clotting report just reminded me of it. I think low hemoglobin can be associated with clotting, if I’m not mistaken.

Edit:
For what it’s worth, this was it.
https://chemrxiv.org/articles/COVID-19_Disease_ORF8_and_Surface_Glycoprotein_Inhibit_Heme_Metabolism_by_Binding_to_Porphyrin/11938173

[revmclaren]

8. Shades of 'The Andromeda Strain'.

This is one hell of a deadly virus.

Scary stuff.

[Midnight Writer]

9. Exactly. My first thought. Any Chinese space probes crash lately?