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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 06:12 PM Apr 2020

Coronavirus has killed 28,000 more than the official count -- in just the last month: report

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/coronavirus-has-killed-28000-more-than-the-official-count-in-just-the-last-month-report/

Coronavirus has killed 28,000 more than the official count — in just the last month: report
Published 1 min ago on April 22, 2020By Matthew Chapman



On Wednesday, The New York Times estimated that in the last month, 28,000 people died from coronavirus whose deaths haven’t been officially attributed to that cause.

“At least 28,000 more people have died during the coronavirus pandemic over the last month than the official Covid-19 death counts report, a review of mortality data in 11 countries shows — providing a clearer, if still incomplete, picture of the toll of the crisis,” said the report. “In the last month, far more people died in these countries than in previous years, The New York Times found. The totals include deaths from Covid-19 as well as those from other causes, likely including people who could not be treated as hospitals became overwhelmed.

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Coronavirus has killed 28,000 more than the official count -- in just the last month: report (Original Post) SheltieLover Apr 2020 OP
If this isn't Cheeto all over. sandensea Apr 2020 #1
I recall reporting that he asked states to not report cases to keep #'s low? Brainfodder Apr 2020 #3
Sure - and of course, until March 11th he kept pushing the notion that it was all a hoax sandensea Apr 2020 #5
A level of evil we didn't know existed? Brainfodder Apr 2020 #7
I wouldn't put anything past him. sandensea Apr 2020 #13
Gross is the under reporting death #'s means poorly informed decisions including re-opening! Brainfodder Apr 2020 #14
He couldn't care less. sandensea Apr 2020 #15
Oh that guy, I ignore what he says or tear it down to why is he saying it. Brainfodder Apr 2020 #16
Too many of our fellow Americans fall for con men, sadly. sandensea Apr 2020 #18
The add-onon evil thru Moscow Mitch, stonewalling too much, and speedy on crappy judges. Brainfodder Apr 2020 #19
Yes! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #9
You can bet Desperate Donny is doing anything to downplay the stats Blue Owl Apr 2020 #2
Search "excess deaths" Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #4
Death Count Donnie needs to get that what looks like 50+% more deaths then counted as xtra credit!? Brainfodder Apr 2020 #8
Yes Lulu KC Apr 2020 #6
So sorry for your loss, Lulu SheltieLover Apr 2020 #10
Thank you Lulu KC Apr 2020 #11
Yes, it is. Very heavy. SheltieLover Apr 2020 #12
Thank you Lulu KC Apr 2020 #17
YW, Lulu! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #20
We are still very much in the early stages. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #21
I believe you are correct. SheltieLover Apr 2020 #22

sandensea

(21,615 posts)
1. If this isn't Cheeto all over.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 06:15 PM
Apr 2020

The man is infamous for undereporting just about everything.

Except his net worth, which he wildly over-reports.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
3. I recall reporting that he asked states to not report cases to keep #'s low?
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 06:20 PM
Apr 2020

I've been aware, and it seems pretty obvious that a couple of very highly populated states are under reporting!

Funny though one ends in what sounds like ASS, and the other end sounds like DUH!

sandensea

(21,615 posts)
5. Sure - and of course, until March 11th he kept pushing the notion that it was all a hoax
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 06:24 PM
Apr 2020

Except, we now know, to NATO and Israel.

His people informed them of the incoming pandemic - and that it would be serious - around November 10th.

a) How, exactly, did they know that soon? (China didn't report anything until December);

and b) Why didn't they inform anyone else - not least, the American people.

sandensea

(21,615 posts)
13. I wouldn't put anything past him.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 06:56 PM
Apr 2020

"China won't give my Tootsie her $2 billion? Slam'em with a killer virus!"

"But, sir, we can't! It'll inevitably spread worldwide - including the U.S."

"Did I stutter like that New York Times guy? Do it, Goddamit!"

sandensea

(21,615 posts)
15. He couldn't care less.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 07:05 PM
Apr 2020

The only thing worrying Cheeto, is that by October/November we'll still be in recession.

Like with everything else, he thinks that by just sticking his head in the sand - and forcing everyone to do likewise - he can make the problem go away.

I bet that's what he told Ivana in the late '80s - just before he lost everything.

sandensea

(21,615 posts)
18. Too many of our fellow Americans fall for con men, sadly.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 07:17 PM
Apr 2020

But not for too long.

Cheeto can ask Bush all about that.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
19. The add-onon evil thru Moscow Mitch, stonewalling too much, and speedy on crappy judges.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 07:22 PM
Apr 2020

...and numerous others, what do they all have in common: already set in life?

GROSS.



SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
9. Yes!
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 06:33 PM
Apr 2020

And I just read a thread here that stated hospitals are not reporting. As in deliberately not reporting. How does that not result in sanctions? 😳🤯

I am sorry but I cannot recall which post / articke it was, but it seems the state is PA.

Blue Owl

(50,327 posts)
2. You can bet Desperate Donny is doing anything to downplay the stats
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 06:18 PM
Apr 2020

Just imagine if the REAL truth got out -- Donny's dirty little secrets would sink him even lower.

Mike Pence's job is to disguise actual CV-19 deaths...

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
8. Death Count Donnie needs to get that what looks like 50+% more deaths then counted as xtra credit!?
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 06:32 PM
Apr 2020
Tired of winning yet?

Lulu KC

(2,565 posts)
6. Yes
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 06:26 PM
Apr 2020

I doubt that my friend who died will be counted as COVID death until they do tissue sampling post mortem--IF they are doing this right now where he lived (NYC). Doctor told him it is probably COVID, call if ????? happens, he was gone before the ????? happened. Going in for tests is a risk in itself, not to mention the lack of their availability.

It will take years to figure out what is going on here right now. Things that have been hiding in plain sight are starting to emerge. And yet, there's more. Always more.

And now the killer pres is checking out how to start a war in Iran for further distraction.

Signed,
Gloomy




SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
12. Yes, it is. Very heavy.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 06:54 PM
Apr 2020

It might sound silly, but please remember to breathe deeply, eat & sleep. Please be very gentle with yourself & know that the stages of grief are not a linear process.

Also, I am guessing they might be slammed, but any hospice will provide 13 months of free gbereavement counseling. It is 13 months because that term carries the person through "the year of firsts." First bday, anniversary, holidays, etc.

Feel free to pm if youb want to chat.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
20. YW, Lulu!
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 07:23 PM
Apr 2020

And just a guess that hospices are probably offering or planning bereavement groups via skype, zoom or phone. Groups really help us to heal..

While we consciously know we aren't the only ones grieving, somehow it is quite therapeutic to sit in group & hear others' stories. It is called universality.
Here is a list of state hospice organizations on this site if care to pursue therapy:

https://hospicefoundation.org/Hospice-Directory

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
21. We are still very much in the early stages.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 07:28 PM
Apr 2020

It's going to be some ways down the road before we have a real handle on who or how many will have died from this.

The rough estimate will be to assume that all deaths above the normal deaths for a given time period (in this country some 7,500 people die each day from lots of causes) are from the Corona virus. In reality, all excess deaths won't be from that. But in time, statisticians and epidemiologists will refine the numbers.

Keep in mind that a full century after the 1918 flu pandemic there is still a huge range of numbers of deaths cited.

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