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turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:40 PM Apr 2020

Fox News Doctor: 'People Will Die From Overdoses And Suicides' If Economy Is Not Restarted

Media Bites 4/23/20 4:46am Read time: 1 minute

Dr. Nicole Saphier claimed with no proof that we can't wait for antigen tests to reopen the economy because far too many people will die from overdoses and suicides.

By John Amato

Fox News' Dr. Saphier, a new right wing addition to their supposed medical team in an effort to get Trump re-elected, claimed with no proof that if we continue self-quarantining, thousands of people will commit suicide or die of drug overdoses.

Fox News personalities are trying their bloody best to kick start a second wave of a coronavirus tsunami.

Like Steve Hilton before her, she pretended we have to protect the most vulnerable from dying of Covid-19, but we still have to break with our medical professionals and get those who "may not die" out of their homes and back to work.

Dr. Saphier always tries to seem sympathetic and she does until you listen to every word she says.

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/04/fox-news-doctor-people-will-die-overdoses

This person being on the tv playing doctor is dangerous ...........she must have forgotten her oath to be a doctor..............JFC

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Fox News Doctor: 'People Will Die From Overdoses And Suicides' If Economy Is Not Restarted (Original Post) turbinetree Apr 2020 OP
Do no harm, Doc...nt cayugafalls Apr 2020 #1
They take a different path over there. JDC Apr 2020 #23
she's competing with drs. phil and oz spanone Apr 2020 #2
*sigh* Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #3
What's her plan to "reopen" the economy? Laelth Apr 2020 #4
Ross University School of Medicine RandySF Apr 2020 #5
Devry.................. turbinetree Apr 2020 #8
She's the Gianna of News medicine underpants Apr 2020 #12
Or the house and senate imavoter Apr 2020 #6
Let's Then Tally Up U.S. Farmer Suicides Since Trump's Trade War Began! n/t MartyTheGreek Apr 2020 #7
And people weren't overdosing and killing themselves before Covid-19? sop Apr 2020 #9
Ah. There you go. That's the set up. underpants Apr 2020 #14
arguably recessions cause as much as 2 extra suicides per 100,000 people per year unblock Apr 2020 #10
Where is she licensed? Caliman73 Apr 2020 #11
Tens of thousands died from overdoses and suicides for FUCKING DECADES hatrack Apr 2020 #13
Went to a great medical school OneBlueDotBama Apr 2020 #15
Yes that school is highly suspect SoCalNative Apr 2020 #16
Oh, this is just chumming the waters for its own sake. crickets Apr 2020 #17
Fox news considers it a win-win Renew Deal Apr 2020 #18
There is some truth to this genxlib Apr 2020 #19
I'm With You ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #21
No, doctor, the overdoses & suicides are from people who can't get adequate relief Coventina Apr 2020 #20
we ought not kid ourselves: people will probably die as a result of shutting down the economy fishwax Apr 2020 #22

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
4. What's her plan to "reopen" the economy?
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:43 PM
Apr 2020

Eliminating stay-at-home orders won’t do it, as Georgia is currently proving. Most Americans are staying home whether Republicans like it or not.

-Laelth

RandySF

(58,728 posts)
5. Ross University School of Medicine
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:46 PM
Apr 2020

Ross University School of Medicine (RUSM) is a private for-profit offshore medical school located in Bridgetown, Barbados. Its main campus is in Barbados, and separate administrative bases are located in Iselin, New Jersey, and Miramar, Florida, in the United States. It is owned by Adtalem Global Education Inc., formerly DeVry Education Group, which purchased it in 2003.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_University_School_of_Medicine

underpants

(182,736 posts)
12. She's the Gianna of News medicine
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:55 PM
Apr 2020

I’ve seen her on. Radiologist.

Hey she has a copy of Grays Anatomy right there in her bookshelf. Truthfully the backdrop lead me to start questioning who she was. Looked like it was focus grouped.

imavoter

(646 posts)
6. Or the house and senate
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:46 PM
Apr 2020

Could fully fund assistance
to keep people home.

It's not rocket science.
They just don't give a bleep.

underpants

(182,736 posts)
14. Ah. There you go. That's the set up.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:59 PM
Apr 2020

They will use existing numbers to prove their point afterwards


I just heard (getting Rx) on talk radio that a Stanford study shows 50 times more people could been infected in California than previously thought. You and I would think - hmmm so the testing has really been that woefully bad AND mitigation has worked but the spin was that it means COVID isn’t as deadly as a percentage. Seriously that was the spin.

I haven’t look up this new study. Wouldn’t surprise if it was twisted by then to start with.

unblock

(52,183 posts)
10. arguably recessions cause as much as 2 extra suicides per 100,000 people per year
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:50 PM
Apr 2020
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5362282/


covid-19 is causing roughly 2 deaths per 100,000 people in america *every three days*.

so "reopening the economy" would literally expose people to a risk that's about 100 times bigger.

never mind the covid-19 is probably causing an increase in suicides on its own....

Caliman73

(11,728 posts)
11. Where is she licensed?
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:52 PM
Apr 2020

It would be a good idea to know where she is licensed and perhaps file a complaint to the medical board there. If she is giving information that is damaging to the public health, that might warrant some kind of sanction.

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
13. Tens of thousands died from overdoses and suicides for FUCKING DECADES
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:55 PM
Apr 2020

Plenty of them faithful Fox viewers, right there in Red Real 'Murca like WV and OH and IN and TN and KY, and they never said a thing.

Oh, but now they're all so concerned about Teh Huge Manatee, or whatever it is that gets Fox "News' undies all in a twist.

Unbelievable.

OneBlueDotBama

(1,384 posts)
15. Went to a great medical school
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 02:04 PM
Apr 2020

Nicole Saphier
Born Phoenix, Arizona
Alma mater Ross University School of Medicine -- Caribbean
Occupation Radiologist
Employer MSK Monmouth, Fox News

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Saphier

Ross University School of Medicine

The medical school was founded in 1978 as The University of Dominica School of Medicine by Robert Ross, an entrepreneur.[2][3] At the time, it was housed in leased facilities at The Castaways Hotel, with an inaugural class of 11 students. In 1982, the University of Dominica School of Medicine formally changed its name to Ross University School of Medicine at the request of the government of Dominica.[citation needed]

In 1985, California state medical licensing officials (the Board of Medical Quality Assurance), began investigating RUSM, along with other medical schools located in the Caribbean.[4] The officials released a report stating that RUSM had nearly no admissions standards, and that the school was in the business of providing medical degrees to "everyone that wants one."[4] RUSM agreed to implement a number of changes recommended by the board and has since graduated over 11,000 practicing physicians.[4]

In the late 1990s, RUSM expressed interest in opening a U.S.-based medical school in Casper, Wyoming, but accreditation was denied by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education, the organization that accredits MD-granting medical schools in the United States.[5] Some local individuals welcomed the economic impact of a new medical school on the town, but critics questioned the quality of education at a for-profit institution.[5] In 2003, RUSM was acquired by DeVry Education Group,[6] which has since renamed itself Adtalem Global Education.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_University_School_of_Medicine

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
16. Yes that school is highly suspect
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 02:08 PM
Apr 2020

but not every doctor who has to attend medical school overseas is a quack or a bad doctor. My doctor did, and he is great and I love him. There are only so many slots allotted in the US, so people need to go somewhere.

crickets

(25,960 posts)
17. Oh, this is just chumming the waters for its own sake.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 02:12 PM
Apr 2020

What is this based on, just a thought or a feeling? Irresponsible, as usual.

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
19. There is some truth to this
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 02:30 PM
Apr 2020

But it is impossible to quantify easily.

For this reason, it is impossible to actually weigh it against the lives lost to the early reopening.

More importantly, you can't claim damages from additional deaths due to stay at home without also accounting for other sources of death that might be lower. For instance automobile accidents. There could be an increase in suicides but a decrease in auto deaths.

ProfessorGAC

(64,988 posts)
21. I'm With You
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 02:34 PM
Apr 2020

If it weren't a doctor mill graduate on Faux, I think we'd be considering this more carefully.
I believe it's a valid concern, but how to quantify it against a KNOWN killer virus if extraordinarily difficult.

Coventina

(27,093 posts)
20. No, doctor, the overdoses & suicides are from people who can't get adequate relief
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 02:33 PM
Apr 2020

for their chronic pain, due to insane drug restrictions.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
22. we ought not kid ourselves: people will probably die as a result of shutting down the economy
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 02:38 PM
Apr 2020

the number will be lower than the number of lives that will be saved by flattening the curve. But I have no doubt that the economic consequences of this will take a toll in human life as well. I think it's a mistake to speak with total dismissiveness of economic concerns, as though it was a simple choice between lives on the one hand and the economy on the other. Unstable economies have very real effects on the lives and health of those subject to that instability.

Again, to state it clearly: I side with the experts, who argue that reopening the economy too soon would exact a far greater toll in human life. But it isn't as though staying closed to flatten the curve comes without a downside.

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