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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWI Repub Party Treasurer: "I implore you please leave Confederate flags & AR15s, AK47s, at home"
OK folks, I implore you, please leave Confederate flags and/or AR15s, AK47s, or any other long guns at home. I well understand that the Confederacy was more about states rights than slavery. But that does not change the truth of how we should try to control the optics during the event.
Wisconsin Republican party treasurer Brian Westrate, quoted by the New York Times, in a private Facebook group for organizers of stay-at-home protests.
https://politicalwire.com/2020/04/23/extra-bonus-quote-of-the-day-571/
tblue37
(65,215 posts)theaocp
(4,232 posts)Those whacky pranksters.
CanonRay
(14,080 posts)Can't have a GOP rally without the party symbol
gibraltar72
(7,498 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,572 posts)crickets
(25,951 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)"Just don't let the TV cameras know.
It's bad messaging.
For some reason."
Ohiogal
(31,895 posts)If you cant swagger around with your big gun looking all bad ass?
kpete
(71,957 posts)Yavin4
(35,420 posts)We're in a real war in Afghanistan. They could dress up for real and swagger around there.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,576 posts)who would be too chickenshit for actual combat anyhow.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Talk about an innuendo.
"I well understand that the Confederacy was more about states rights than slavery."
That's loaded in itself.
stopdiggin
(11,238 posts)original sources reveal, again and again ... IT WAS ABOUT SLAVERY!
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Thank you, and good night.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)I am not referring to the validity of the statement, but the implications, of course. It is highly suggestive and inflammatory, i.e., insurrection, treason, civil war, etc.
That's another illustration of stochastic terrorism, as per General Trump's model.
Wounded Bear
(58,584 posts)from slavery to civil rights it has always been a means to a racist end.
IDGAF what any RW asshole says, state's rights is all about the "right" to treat brown people like shit.
underpants
(182,585 posts)Yes, Im full of shit just like you all BUT...
AleksS
(1,665 posts)....especially the right to own slaves.
Geez. They are the worst.
ProfessorGAC
(64,827 posts)Those 2 things are synonymous with regard to the Confederacy.
Also, isn't in the STATE imposing these limitations? Now, we need a flag for county rights?
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)To own people.
Renew Deal
(81,844 posts)And they have little interest in putting up a façade for his corporate theft wing of the party.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,938 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,576 posts)Upholding states' rights was just a means to preserve slavery.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,956 posts)With actual for real treason tossed in
ProfessorGAC
(64,827 posts)Leave your "long guns" home. So, Mac 9s are just fine, apparently.
underpants
(182,585 posts)He hints and was getting ammo. A few months ago when they county was getting ready to vote on those sanctuary things.
He was in a long established gun store. The owner was telling a couple of guys who were going to the county board meeting, Look. Do us a favor. Leave the long Guns at home. They dont do us any good especially with the cameras there.
pwb
(11,245 posts)What a piece of work. This shit is weird fringe shit and should not be in national news.
CaptainTruth
(6,572 posts)yellowcanine
(35,693 posts)Read the secession statements of the various Confederate states. They all mention slavery.
Vogon_Glory
(9,109 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,109 posts)And those Confederate flags and long guns turn people off?
Isnt that a gosh-darn shame?
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,711 posts)How are they going to overcome their insecurities?
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,938 posts)fishwax
(29,148 posts)Permanut
(5,554 posts)doesn't understand that real patriots will defend the second half of the second amendment against all threats. AR-15s would probably do some serious damage to a virus.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,148 posts)What if one of them thar corona-things attacks me?
lark
(23,059 posts)No hoods, no burning crosses, no swastikas, no assault guns, no grenades, no signs about die (whatever minority you want to insert), just stick to the message we gave you and don't tell anyone that we're organizing and supporting and paying you to come to these things - EVER.
underpants
(182,585 posts)It may not be a good plan, but its a plan.
dalton99a
(81,386 posts)uponit7771
(90,301 posts)DFW
(54,268 posts)It's part of who they are, it doesn't separate easily.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Who knew?
Caliman73
(11,722 posts)Sorry but any way you try to parse it, "economic self determination", resisting the Federal Government, etc... You keep asking "TO WHAT" or "FOR WHAT" and the answer will get to the REAL reason the Confederacy formed and attacked the United States.
SLAVERY.
They wanted the States Right to maintain and expand SLAVERY.
Their economic system was built on SLAVERY
The Confederate Flags (all of them) were flown in defense of SLAVERY
It is in the Constitutions of several Confederate States AND the Vice President of the Confederacy himself said it. SLAVERY
The Confederate States committed Treason, and took up arms attacking the United States FOR SLAVERY.
The only heritage the Battle Flag of the Confederacy represents is a group of states who wanted SLAVERY and went to war against the United States because of it.
Praek3
(149 posts)These idiots must think conservative racists are the only ones bearing arms.
I am a hell of a shot. Don't step into my yard wearing a MAGAt hat. I consider it a threat and will take appropriate action to protect myself.
These crybabies and their fomenters are a pathetic bunch. You never see a Koch, Mercer, or Liz U., Diarrhea Don and DD Jr. et al standing on the street protesting. They sacrifice their lemming groupies. And the dumb asses fall for it every time.
Suckers.
LastDemocratInSC
(3,645 posts)"In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.
" Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.
NNadir
(33,457 posts)You supported an open Nazi racist for the office of President of the United States. This hate filled moron is in the White House because of you, and now you're worried about "optics?"