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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBelieving Trump, Moore, And Kavanaugh Guilty Does Not Require Believing Mr. Biden Is
Finding a charge made by one person to be credible does not require me to consider a charge made by some other person to be credible. Charges of criminal behavior should be assessed individually, and the credibility of the person making the charge, as well as the credibility of the charge itself, must be weighed.
Some claim falsely it does, that because some span of time elapsed between the acts alleged and the woman's reporting of same, all should be viewed as identical. It is true that persons subjected to sexual assault sometimes take their time to come forward. It is also true people will often wait to launch a lie till the time seems right.
In the case of charges against Trump, Moore, and Kavanaugh, the persons laying the accusations are solid and credible, as are the accusations they make. They are not solitary accusers, in each instance there were multiple people coming forward. In each instance the accusations were consistent with known behavior, from the well documented media circus of 'Trump, the playboy', to what everyone knows is common behavior at beer-bash jock parties of the sort Kavanaugh himself documented attending, to the foul odor of pious fraud Moore has always reeked of, in his extreme denunciation of perversion in others. which so often betrays a guilty secret trying to break out in confession.
Reade has not just altered her claims over recent years, but has made them more extreme as each version failed to excite much attention. That is not a pattern of a truthful person, coming forward after a lapse of years, but the pattern of a calculating liar who is seeking to find what level of charge it will take to win notoriety, and damage the target of the lie. Even more telling is that when Reade finally swore out a police complaint, she omitted to include the name of the person she accuses. If someone will not swear to a charge under penalty of perjury, there is no reason whatever to believe that person making the charge when not under oath. Note that none of this makes reference to the well-evidenced flakiness of Reade, which opens the possibility she is simply a fabulist, or to her adherence to Putin and Russia, or to the obvious axes to grind which every person promoting her story has. These are, however, things which damage her credibility further.
It should be noted, too, that hypocrisy is dead as a charge of any weight in political life. No one is, and no one ought to be, deterred by a charge of hypocrisy from pressing the line best suited to the political needs of the present day. Well-meaning, good-hearted people who tend to the left need to learn not to allow their better natures to be taken advantage of by vicious scum on the right, and splinterest wreckers on the far left, who enlist them in their charges against figures of the center left, by exhorting them to 'be consistent' and telling them 'don't be hypocrites'. The proper response to attempts at this is a hearty "Fuck off! Nobody cares what a rancid piece of dogshit like you thinks!" Or words to that effect....
Only attack the enemy, the christo-fascist right.
Never, ever, attack people who are on your side.
If you want one quick reason why the right wing wields power well out of proportion to the popularity of its policies, it is that they adhere to this rule, and we on the left do not.
"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)yonder
(9,662 posts)mzmolly
(50,984 posts)Thank you!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Similar to an advertiser who speaks of the new and improved product?
This situation reminds me of the Al Franken situation, with the obviously staged picture forming the evidence.
If your analysis is correct, Reade may widen her complaint to include HRC, George Soros, and Bill Gates as co-conspirators. Bonus points if she includes Al Franken.
Well argued, sir.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)It is the explanation which suggests itself when 'intelligence guided by experience' is employed, instead of consulting one's desire to do harm to a disliked political figure.
"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."
ancianita
(36,009 posts)Based on hours of interviews, The New York Times has debunked her claims.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/politics/joe-biden-tara-reade-sexual-assault-complaint.html
Shopping her claim around to the Intercept and Guardian won't make her old, tired hearsay case any more fact-based or objective.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)She reminds me more and more of that Sinclair fellow who got some wingnut mileage out of claiming he had been the gay lover of President Obama, and similar persons who have attached themselves to other more outre fantasies owing much to paranoid delusion cast in a sexual vein....
"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the thinking-challenged. It's a typical Rush Limbaugh type of sleight-of-dittoheads trick.
Reality is that Biden has a lifelong, planet-wide reputation for honor and integrity.
Kavanaugh is political-agent scum who in the old days would never have been allowed to meet directly with the big guys he was dirty-tricking for. Before the entire leadership became political-agent scum.
Reade has nearly three-decade reputation for changing stories at best, lying at worst, petty crime, hostile anti-American attitudes, and weak relationship to reality. Evidenced by her adoring admiration of a murderous, dreadfully inadequate little creep who's tragically spent his entire time in power sacking an already poor, very underdeveloped nation of people in great need.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)Kavanaugh's drunken behavior predates his utility as a political judge, though it certainly makes it no surprise how he turned out once he reached what passes for maturity in such shit-heels. My opinion is that he is a barely functional alcoholic, and I regret none of our Senators replied to his antics at the hearings with the simple question, "Are you drunk now? Because you certainly are acting like you're drunk."
"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."
SouthernAtheist
(45 posts)Thank-you, Magistrate.
To be honest, I haven't really been following this story and appreciate you filling in some of the details and saving me a trip into the mire. Ive just lazily assumed it would turn out to be BS.
What strikes me, as always in these situations, is the presumption that any accusation against a Democrat must result in immediate seppuku no matter how out of character the purported action is with respect to the individuals known and long established history.
But for a Republican philanderer and known adulterer, even the grab em by the pussy tape is dismissed with a wink wink, nudge nudge, and something like hes a baby Christian who gives us judges and owns the libs so its all good cause God can use anyone line of self-righteous justification. (Notice how God never manages to use a Democrat somehow, not even Jimmy!-Fn-Carter! - the absolutely best and most decent man to ever occupy the White House?)
Also, thank you for the phrase "the foul odor of pious fraud", I can use a new description for what I've always assumed was the scent of hypocrites sizzling in the fires of hell.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)And we must learn not to let our decency and humanity be turned to an Achilles heel.
I agree completely about the inanity of most evangelical comment on political matters. Creatures like Falwell Jr. and Franklin Graham violate clear scripture a dozen times by dinner each day, and two score at least on Sundays. Among my favorites are the bright line claim the whomsoever is in authority is appointed there by the deity, which you have referenced, and the clear injunction no Christian is to press a lawsuit in the courts, and if sued in the courts, is to refrain from contesting the claim.
"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."
certainot
(9,090 posts)pounding the lies into the earholes of 50 million people a week for months without challenge
with limbaugh leading the way once again enabling amazing levels of hypocrisy
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in the long run, we win more than we lose, and the world continues to advance.
I want to enter a new, sustained era of wellbeing and stability before I die, though, not depart leaving our grandchildren to suffer under what these amoral authoritarian barbarians are trying to make of the liberal democracy that is their birthright.
certainot
(9,090 posts)waiting for limbaugh to croak to find out that's the main reason for 30 years of authoritarian bullshit, progressive failure, global warming, extinction, privatized public ed, war, no single payer, voter suppression, etc
the last 30 years have been 100 steps forward and 95 back because the left and dems have ignored talk radio
and this is the time to force the ad industry to destroy it - they can't count on limbaugh and they have no one to replace him, and it is clear their clients and 87 universities have been supporting/sponsoring a few hundred lying sacks of shit who have followed limbaugh and trump in yelling HOAX in a covid theater
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:25 AM - Edit history (1)
the dreadful damage RW domination of much of communications is doing to our nation.
But how on earth were Democrats supposed to keep new communications technologies from being used by RWers? No to falling for the pernicious RW communications trick of blaming Democrats for what conservatives do. That's how the RW, abetted by the anti-Democratic left, get people to believe there's nothing to vote for against them.
Remember, when voters in big trouble last time elected FDR and he and his people took office, they also put Democrats in charge of both houses of congress -- and kept them there for 12 years! With that power we accomplished great things. But that was still twelve years of constant battle in congress, in the states, in the courts, and with every private RW power center, like communications. We lost some big battles but won most. And then for the next 35 years of the New Deal era the constant battles continued with less power.
Beginning around 1978, though, voters started choosing to have conservatism dominate government. The wealthy classes exploded in a concentration of never-before-imagined wealth as production quadrupled, and they bought communications and dismantled regulation.
The electorate simply hasn't given liberal Democrats enough power for long enough to overcome Republicans in government and to take on the enormously influential communications industries. And for the 40 years conservatives have dragged us those 95 steps back it's mostly been with continued voter approval and/or cluelessness and apathy.
Liberal Democrats certainly have the will and always have. Our politicians aren't too stupid to recognize an enormous, enormous problem they have to fight single every day to achieve some measure of success, and for personal and national survival. It's like gravity, always trying to smash them, and the people, to the ground.
On the plus side we're once again, finally, seeing less of the apathy as RWers return us to the disaster levels of the Great Depression. But while radio's in trouble as a profit center, technology has shifted focus devastatingly to the far more dangerous tool of internet communications. The audience radio waves reach is aging out, but I can't imagine our new kleptocracy'd giving up radio entirely as a delivery system while they were still able to vote. Not that punching their business managers in the nose isn't worth doing, but some stations will be kept going and streamed everywhere in the nation and around the world electronically.
I have this image of kids and grandkids refusing to upgrade grandpa so he can receive it, but his friends will tell him what he needs to buy. To get control, Democrats have to destroy wealth grown so big and powerful over the past 40 years that it's incompatible with government by the people. And restore the regulatory leash on business.
certainot
(9,090 posts)ride. it is the only unique advantage they have and it is now extremely vulnerable if dems just stop ignoring it.
you're mixing causes and effects.
democracy was designed to reduce the power of big money, regulate business, etc. by ignoring talk radio dems/left allow the billionaires to create and coordinate made-to-order constituencies and make their interests look 'popular'.
To get control, Democrats have to destroy wealth grown so big and powerful over the past 40 years that it's incompatible with government by the people. And restore the regulatory leash on business.
not going to happen.
money in politics, deregulation, voter suppression are a direcct result, the symptoms, of letting 1500 coordinated radio stations blast 40 states and 80 ssenators with bulllshit all day. limbaugh/RW was controlling content on 500 stations owned by many different owners for most of aa decade before the tel com act or fox in 96. that's how they forced the telcom act and deregulate money, and more recently voter suppression. dems and media don't know how closely tied the immigration disaster is to voter suppression - 20 years of llying about dems using illegal immigrants to vote for them - that's why we need voter ID etc. every time dems tried to regulate anything the cons lie and repeat unchallenged until they could beat it. most of that can only happen on that talk radio monopoly and it continues now. ALEC was nothing before early 90s/talk radio.
talk radio was and is the key to russian interference, still is, and dems don't even poll for it. talk radio advantage gives trump idiots the confidence to delay action on COVID to help them in the elections.
we can't do much about fox because it's part of the free speech spectrum, with 'alternatives' a click away but the talk radio monopoly is now very vulnerable and ready for destruction. when that starts to happen trump/limbaugh will lose power over enough GOP senators that they will have to dump him or force him to resign. they know how important limbaugh is for making excuses for their bending over for trump and keeping everyone in line.
here's how easily it can happen if dems and the 'left' get it started
1) artificial intelligence-enhanced transcription, digitization, and analysis/monitoring of putin talk radio makes stoprush x 100 inevitable - americans just need to let the ad industry know it's coming. they want the millions of ears those stations reach and will want to protect their clients from being associated with the hate and lies. it wouldn't take much activism or a progressive org or a well known politician or activist to get their attention
2) limbaugh may be gone from lung cancer by election time, or be croaking and taking time off, which is why trump may have wondered aloud if he ought to get his own radio show going. they know they can't replace limbaugh anchoring 600 radio stations. hannity is limbaugh's repeating bozo and they know it. the ad industry has to already be thinking about adjustments.
3) all advertisers and university and pro sports teams that broadcast on RW/trump/putin radio are responsible for helping putin/trump yell HOAX in a COVID theater the last 3 months and enabling the criminality and corruption that has cost thousands of live and millions of jobs. they are directly responsible, and it won't take much to convince the ad industry it is going to have to apply actual 'market demand' for the hate and lies, stop bundling advertisers onto those stations and start asking them if they really want to support trump
4) limbaugh was demoted from the loudest station in CO in september and it may have been in response to the long term pressure the uni of CO was getting to drop KOA. KOA may have chosen between keeping CU (and sympathetic athletes on broncos and rockies) and limbaugh. if the 87 + universities that support 250 limbaugh stations start following suit the pressure on the ad industry will ramp up considerably and it will have to start democratizing talk radio. without that unchallenged monopoly, their only unique advantage, trump and the modern GOP will go back to being a semi-permanent minority
5) it wouldn't take many GOP senators to see your number 3 falling apart with limbaugh and the talk radio monopoly that got and keeps most of them elected
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)started up in DC right after Trump was sworn in. I'd thought they'd lost their leases, though, but apparently still going, and metastasized the insult to Kansas City.
If this is even partially right, it'll be a good blow to the right. And irritate a lot of our neighbors.
Disagree that we can't do what our grandparents did, btw. Obama raised taxes on personal wealth to pre- Reaganism levels, just a start of course, and he had to do it by easily reversed presidential orders since Repubs controlled congress, but we can and will. Note what Speaker Pelosi said. She wasn't blowing smoke. The kleptocrats know keeping us from getting enough power for long enough to destroy them is an existential imperative.
certainot
(9,090 posts)faster if progressive reps like AOC didn't have a headwind of 1500 radio stations
it'ss really impossible to have a national fact based discussion on any issue without them being able to distort i to the point where democrats are pushed to compromise based on crap out of limbaugh's ass.
re russians, another positive in drawing attention to talk radio is to get media to look into russian use of it going back to 2008 at least. that can help discredit all their disinformation. all putin had to do is figure out how to feed limbaugh and he'd be getting soviet era revenge on decades of defeats thanks to the voice of america.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)voters is extremely regrettable since it only serves the Republicans and other anti-democracy enemies.
But it certainly didn't confuse President Obama and isn't confusing any of our Democratic leaders, who have very strong ideas of the income-equalizing tax policies we need. They of course aren't vulnerable to those who prey on ignorance.
The disagreements are how best to go about dismantling the plutocracy and outright kleptocracy built by Republicans. Btw, their majorities were all elected with the help of dysfunctional ankle-chewers gnawing away support for Democrats, a tragic synergy between anti-Democratic leftists and anti-Democratic Republicans.
certainot
(9,090 posts)advantage and it really doesn't matter what democrats really want. until they stop ignoring rw radio it will keep being 100 forward and 95 back just because aa few hundred blowhards get to attack and lie to 50 mil a week without challenge.
as i've pointed out before, at $1000/hr x 15 hrs x 1200 stations that's a $5bill a year messaging advantage. 30 years of that is why half the country believes in trickle down and free market stupidity, raising the min wage will kill jobs, deregulation will llower prices, single payer is communism, unions are unamerican, the USPS needs to be privatized, democrats destroy the economy, we need to attack iraq, hillary's emails, deep state, kavenaugh was just a guy, etc
how many anti-Democratic leftists didn't vote in 2010 because the dumbshits believed the general republican buzz generated by those radio stations that obama thought he was the messiah but didn't give a shit about heallth care reform and how mnay wewre students at universities that support half of limbaugh's stations through sports broadcasting?
and how many anti-Democratic Republicans believed the rw radio buzz that kerry was a coward, obama was a foreigner, clinton wanted those guys to die in benghazi, it was all a deep state hoax, and global warming and COVID are/were hoaxes
there's only one reason they could believe that alt reality and elect the fucking idiots they have
as far as i'm concerned the last thirty years have been a disaster for democrats with few small slow gains. and i know why. unfortunately putin figured it out a decade ago and democrats don't even polll for it.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 26, 2020, 07:55 PM - Edit history (1)
of ideological shifts. I believe this one to conservatism that began in 1978 is artificially strengthened and kept from ending by the kind of factors you're talking about, plus the enormous growth of power among the wealthy coinciding with enormously powerful advances in mass communications.
We have very different ideas of who's responsible on our side for bringing us to this, though.
This is still a democracy, and we get what we empower by how we use our voting power, or mistakenly imagine we're not using it. Citizens who make dreadfully wrong choices are the engine of our disaster, not the Democratic leaders they refused to listen to.
They can't shift responsibility to party leaders for their own years of badouthing Democrats to people already likely to not vote, and other dread consequences of their own actions. They own it.
In 2016 the choice couldn't have been simpler -- liberal progressive Democratic control or authoritarian kleptocratic Republican. Either-or. No other possibility.
And here we are, with all too many doing the same thing to Republican and Russian glee all over again.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)voters is extremely regrettable since it only serves the Republicans and other anti-democracy enemies.
But it certainly didn't confuse President Obama and isn't confusing any of our Democratic leaders, who have very strong ideas of the iwealth-distributing tax and other policies we need. The disagreements are how best to go about dismantling the plutocracy and outright kleptocracy built by Republicans. They all know we must. And of course tax policy is only one of the tools our grandparents who'd gotten themselves in such bad troubles successfully used to create a whole new deal for America.
Btw, Republican majorities have all been elected with the help of misinformed and dysfunctional leftist ankle-chewers who believe the liars preying on them and gnaw away support for Democrats, a tragic synergy of anti-Democratic leftists helping the Republican monster destroy progressivism itself.
This is The Real Nancy Pelosi speaking for our party, and all that conflicts is lie:
Nancy Pelosi quoting pre- New Deal Justice Louis Brandeis to the nation at the opening of the 116th congress.
oasis
(49,365 posts)musette_sf
(10,200 posts)crickets
(25,959 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,309 posts)What you said shouldn't have to be said, any more than Biden having to ask people to not drink bleach, but I'm glad you fleshed it out so well.
mcar
(42,287 posts)Women should be heard and Ms. Reade is being heard. Her tale(s) is not credible. The latest OMG!!11 nonsense about 1993 Larry King and a vague charge by someone who may or may not have been Ms. Reade's mother also is not credible. Nor is it evidence.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Rather than simply dismissed as in the 1950s, say. But it's absurd that we have to believe every charge or disbelieve every charge or we are hypocrites. That's just simple mindedness.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)Even in therapy the phrase 'I hear you' does not mean 'what you said is true and I agree'.
mcar
(42,287 posts)this accuser simply does not.
Although it makes me angry that someone is trying to get IMPOTUS reelected through these actions, I must admit I feel some sympathy for Ms. Reade. She seems a mentally ill person.
Happy Hoosier
(7,257 posts)She did that "tic tok" tweet. No real victim of sexual assault would so coldly calculate when to release information.
dhill926
(16,333 posts)"If you want one quick reason why the right wing wields power well out of proportion to the popularity of its policies, it is that they adhere to this rule, and we on the left do not."
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Exceptional!
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)The buck stops with us. Defeat of this dangerous enemy gives us a life, a path forward. The converse, not so much.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."
iluvtennis
(19,843 posts)mountain grammy
(26,607 posts)I listen often to his radio show. He literally oozes goodness and has throughout his life. He didn't do anything wrong. As for Joe Biden, the same. It's how he's lived his life.
These men don't rape or molest women. They just don't.
The rapist is in the White House and he's appointed several.
The Christo-fascist right is the enemy of humanity..
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)To the idiotic belief of so many on the left that we win by showing ourselves to be above the fray, and better behaved than the enemy. For it was Democrats, and well-meaning people on the left, who saw to Sen. Franken resigning his office. Republicans alone, even with aid from the press, could not have managed it.
People need to be clear about this. What makes us better than the enemy is that our goals are good goals, that will improved people's lives, while the enemy seeks to sow despair and poverty to benefit a handful of plutocrats. The ludicrous idea that in a fight with an evil shit-heel you have to sit still for a sucker-punch, and be fair and let him up rather than stomp on his kidneys, just makes us losers in the fight of our lives.
"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."
mountain grammy
(26,607 posts)I love Michelle Obama. She is far smarter than I'll ever be... but the "when they go low, we go high" thing hurt us.. really hurt us.
betsuni
(25,442 posts)c-rational
(2,590 posts)reason why the reThugs wield power beyond their numbers. It is also their money, and long term planning by a few (i.e. the Powell memo - do not argue with the liberal media simply buy them), coupled with their meanspiritedness. My observations are that as a general rule, gentle, just and kind human beings are Democrats, while reThugs believe that being honest and just equates to being weak.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)But only because I am a strong believer in "Never say never". Especially once one enters the realm of the hypothetical. I can imagine plenty of rare instances when someone who could fairly be said to be on my side would need to be attacked if they, even with good motives, engaged in or advocated behavior that was dangerous to our society as a whole. I would however agree with "Think long and hard before attacking people on your side to be sure you are not being played, or making matters overall worse."
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)I quite agree with your formulation of the case, in fact. I expect you would acknowledge, however, it is hardly suitable as a battle cry....
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)Much appreciated.
Be well, and stay safe!
rantormusing
(213 posts)This post has a lot of contradictions, and comes across as violent. A lot of people have debunked what you just said. Theres no reason to be violent against Reade. Thinking of patterns.....
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)And the various debunkings....
It may well be you are someone who needs disheartening.
"All men of reason are men of violence at heart."
rantormusing
(213 posts)Im afraid you are somewhat mistaken in how you act. Passive aggressiveness does not suit you well. Just cause you forgo your standards does not mean others have to as well. History is on my side as to the violence down here. If your standard is going to a party as a young adult then your post is a sham.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)We can all use some amusement in these troubled times of contagion and treason, and must find it where we may. Your willingness to provide it, and at your own expense, too, is an inspiration to selfless people everywhere.
"A liberal may be defined as a man who won't take his own side in a quarrel."
"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."
rantormusing
(213 posts)You spouted desperate nonsense in your OP, and were applauded for it. I see you know how to pat yourself on the back. Great job. Its rare I see this, but more so on other boards.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)Perhaps the greatest amusement you provide is how you have refrained from pointing out just what are the contradictions you so proudly announced could be found in my modest effort.
You really should tend to that before advancing to claims of desperate nonesense....
"As you make your bed so you lie there. But who'll tuck you in when you do? And if someone steps up, I'll be that one. And if someone gets stepped on that one's you."
trof
(54,256 posts)HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)GMAFB
Hekate
(90,616 posts)See ya around.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)"The essence of war is a well-reasoned and circumspect defense, followed by audacious attack."
Hekate
(90,616 posts)BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)There is nothing violent in any of what he said.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)I meant everything I said about being grateful for the laugh....
It seemed as if the fellow was working through a checklist of charges he had perhaps found likely to flummox people who can be wounded by criticism from strangers....
Boomerproud
(7,949 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,440 posts)Posting anti-Joe Biden OPs every day.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)but even going to the correct agency to make the report say to me she new the consequences of falsifying a report. She says she has a JD degree then she would know that is a critical detail.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Hekate
(90,616 posts)Blue Owl
(50,325 posts)The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)Blue Owl
(50,325 posts)lamp_shade
(14,824 posts)Baltimike
(4,140 posts)Silent3
(15,178 posts)...and were just making this same case in a hypothetical way, before the necessity of coming to Biden's defense, you'd unfortunately have been eaten alive here on DU for making exactly the same arguments.
It is, and always has been the case, that such accusations need to be examined for credibility, that people who are accused should not be treated as guilty until proven innocent. Many here on DU would take the act of stating that simple truth as something that a person wouldn't have the bad taste to bring up unless they had a hidden agenda to discredit all women, something they wouldn't say unless they were an "MRA".
I've heard it stated bluntly here on DU that the possibility of a woman, any woman, making a false accusation against a man is so vanishingly small that it's barely worthy of consideration, the unstated corollary being that if the occasional, supposedly rare event of a false accusation occurs, and a man's life is damaged or destroyed by it, it's a small price to pay. Only an "MRA" type would worry about that problem, because it's the much, much smaller problem.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)"Yes, I have heard of the complaint. Tell me, was it steel or lead he was unable to digest? Or perhaps...perhaps he found himself suddenly unable to breathe?"