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no_hypocrisy

(46,030 posts)
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:57 AM Apr 2020

Even when there is an effective vaccine available for MOST CV varieties,

there will be a certain segment of the population remaining anti-vaccine and won't submit themselves and will remain either victims or carriers.

What to do about them?

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samnsara

(17,606 posts)
2. i will get this shot! and Im one who doesnt normally get shots only because i live relatively..
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:04 AM
Apr 2020

..isolated anyway. Im waaaaay out in the boonies and retired and have no need to go into town except to stock up on supplies. But this year I am also getting my very first flu shot ever because if/when I get sick I want them to be able to rule out the flu right away....Dr Fauci convinced me.

Squinch

(50,918 posts)
6. If it comes out of Donnie Bodybags's administration, I will not be in the first
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:12 AM
Apr 2020

wave to take it. I'll take it if it proves safe. But I don't trust a vaccine put out under this administration will be properly vetted.

If it comes out after a few months of Joe's admin, I'll be first in line.

no_hypocrisy

(46,030 posts)
4. Operative words: right now
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:10 AM
Apr 2020

Yes, but it is a variable that has to be calculated for long-term planning.

Voltaire2

(12,963 posts)
5. mandatory school vaccinations seems to work pretty well.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:12 AM
Apr 2020

It cuts down the numbers, which is all that herd immunity is about anyway. The adults are hopeless unless we end up in an 'immunity passport" situation, which is still unlikely.

ProfessorGAC

(64,861 posts)
8. Mandatory Is A Soft Version
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:17 AM
Apr 2020

In some states.
Here in IL, religious belief is an allowed reason for a kid to be unvaccinated & still be allowed in school.
The school needs a parent signed form in the student's file, but that isn't really stopping spread. Just a legal formality.
Any parent could just lie about their reason being religion.
My opinion is no VAX, no school. Parent needs to handle it some way else.
But, my opinion was not shared by the lawmakers.

Voltaire2

(12,963 posts)
10. Some states (CA for example) have stiffened the rules
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:21 AM
Apr 2020

because of the widespread abuse of both religious nd medical exemptions, eliminating religious exemptions and restricting medical.

ProfessorGAC

(64,861 posts)
11. We Should Do That Here
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:34 AM
Apr 2020

This situation might be the political impetus to make it happen.
But, not yet and we're dark blue here. (Well, not south of Bloomington. But soybeans don't vote)

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
7. Yes and we still need to worry about viral mutations
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:16 AM
Apr 2020

Typically a vaccine is only effective against one strain of the virus, not all of them. That's why flu shots are only partially effective and only for one season. By the next season the flu virus has already mutated and the shot you got last year doesn't work against the new strain.

The anti-vaxxers will take care of their own problem because they'll be dying out rather quickly.



WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
9. Not sure what can legally be done about those who won't...
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:20 AM
Apr 2020

take it but there will be those who can't (due to allergies, etc) so while I'm hoping that a vax is discovered and becomes available for a sliding scale fee/free, it's also very important that we have an efficient & affordable treatment available.

Terry_M

(745 posts)
13. Herd immunity should be there if we get 70% uptake
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 11:12 AM
Apr 2020

Af least that's the best guess right now. We will probably know better by the time the vaccine is there but it should be in that range. Anti vaxxers dont make up 30% luckily.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. Anti-vaxers will become a smaller segment of the population over time,
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 11:20 AM
Apr 2020

because they are killing themselves off.

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