The problem with a WPA/CCC is that we don't really need much stuff built

[Recursion]

And the stuff we do need built isn't stuff that random yobs with shovels and pickaxes can build.

One thing we're learning in the lockdown is that a lot of the stuff we've been doing never actually needed to be done.

Don't make up work for unemployed people to do; just give people a check and let them decide to do with their time. They'll probably come up with better answers than a WPA would.

[tblue37]

1. We need infrastructure repaired. Schools, roads, bridges, etc. nt

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. Roads, bridges and public buildings need skilled trades, not randos with a hammer.

[Demsrule86]

5. Not true...skilled trades always need workers too.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

8. Right...if we can't find enough skilled trades to build infrastructure through some kind of CCC

program, do we settle for people without training doing it? And do they get the same wage skilled union tradespeople do? If not, why should we hire union workers? If so, why are we using these programs to undermine unions?

[Demsrule86]

21. There are enough skilled trades out there.

[sinkingfeeling]

17. I suggest you do a search on the type of structures that were built by

the CCC. They include roads, bridges, lodges and dams. Most are still in use today, almost 90 years later. All were built by men who were out of work.

[msongs]

2. the depression was systemic, the current scene is calculated and directed by politicians

when the stay at home stuff is lifted people will go back to their previous jobs mostly. in the depression those jobs vanished never to return. the CCC was a program for the old situation.

[Demsrule86]

4. Have you seen our roads,highways and bridges...schools...our infrastructure is failing on every

level.

[LAS14]

6. Roads? Bridges? Drainage systems? Adding and removing dams??? nt

[RichardRay]

7. Housing

Housing Housing Housing Housing Housing
Housing Housing Housing Housing Housing
Housing Housing Housing Housing Housing

more housing

Ya to the folks at Habitat for Humanity about how to use the hands.

[mahina]

10. And this!

[mahina]

9. Well I disagree with you about that.

Demolish abandoned falling down homes in poor urban communities.

Help the communities with materials and labor to set up urban gardens.

Rebuild our falling apart schools and libraries.

Wire up poor urban communities with fast free WiFi

Install solar and wind fricking everywhere in poor communities, making microgrids


For starters

Of course capitalism may have its feefees hurt but the people will come out with skills and be stronger more affluent and healthier

[irisblue]

11. We, The People, need High Speed and Quality BroadBand Access

Is IMO now a public utility, the same way as Electric, Gas and Water.

We need nationwide access, and that will provide training and work for many people, those skills will & can move into the 2030s

I live in Columbus, I cannot afford the bundle up of phone, TV, and internet.

Elementary kids trying to do school on line are using their parents phones or sitting outside the library or a school bus that is acting as a mobile hot spot.

This time makes it totally obvious that Broadband Access is a public good.

[Thunderbeast]

12. Fire prevention in national forests!

It is exactly the kind of labor-intensive project that could put thousands to work. Thinning and clearing the understory (not raking) will prevent the devastation that fire brings after decades of fire suppression. Clearing the ladder fuels would prevent fire from reaching tree crowns and burning so hot that soil is sterilized.

The CCC built a wondeful trail system. It needs maintenance.

[PufPuf23]

15. +1

[Recursion]

19. Today we do environmental reviews, which is a good thing

But it also means we no longer just say "dig a ditch here" to 100 people with shovels (and even then, we tell it to a three-person backhoe crew).

[Metatron]

13. We always need public art! n/t

[Recursion]

14. So just give people a paycheck

A ton of people will finally write that novel they've been meaning to.

[Politicub]

20. Yes! Was just going to post this.

Some amazing, lasting art came from artists paid through the WPA.

[mwooldri]

16. Hmmm... I-69 in Michigan towards Lansing.

That road is IMO horrible. And I thought US 52 North between Winston-Salem and Mount Airy in NC was bad... but that's a good road in comparison to I-69

And don't get me started on the roads in Mississippi.

We have plenty of roads that need fixing.

[Recursion]

18. And we don't fix them with 100-man road crews anymore

We fix them with a miller and a paver, each of which have a three-person crew.