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RandySF

(58,447 posts)
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:43 AM Apr 2020

Black Caucus seeks to squash liberal insurgents

enior black Democrats are mounting an aggressive defense of Rep. Joyce Beatty in Tuesday's delayed Ohio primary, hoping to quash not only her left-wing primary challenger but the liberal insurgents gunning for a number of their colleagues.

Leaders of the Congressional Black Caucus have framed the fight as greater than just defeating Beatty’s opponent, Morgan Harper, a well-funded attorney backed by the progressive group Justice Democrats. They are eager to show they can smack down any primary challengers nationwide who conspire against senior members of color who have spent decades fighting to the top.

“What is that all about? Is it attacking us?” Beatty said in an interview. “Well, let me make the message strong and clear: When you attack a hard-working member of the Congressional Black Caucus, we fight back. We are the conscience of the caucus, and we represent people.”

The CBC is stepping up to protect Beatty in an unpredictable race that some Democrats privately fear could be close, with turnout expected to be far lower amid the coronavirus outbreak that has shut down much of Ohio since mid-March.

Rep. Cedric Richmond of Louisiana, a former CBC chairman, is among several top Democrats who has helped marshal support for Beatty from both Washington and Ohio in recent months, frustrated by liberal outsiders with lengthy progressive wish lists seeking to oust party elders.

"Being 'anti' is not enough. This is about results and not just rhetoric,” Richmond said. “And just because you run with a bunch of rhetoric doesn't mean you can get results. There are people here that are effective members of Congress.”





https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/28/black-caucus-squash-liberal-insurgents-211969

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Black Caucus seeks to squash liberal insurgents (Original Post) RandySF Apr 2020 OP
Hmm. Sorry about that problem, but I'm a liberal, and I'm tired of conservative democrats. BComplex Apr 2020 #1
Liberal here too! ananda Apr 2020 #2
It would be utter nonsense to describe Joyce Beatty as "conservative" tritsofme Apr 2020 #3
I disagree completely. Justice Democrats is trying to get the liberal message back on the table BComplex Apr 2020 #6
JD's have performed miserably for a reason. Constituents know their representatives, and they.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2020 #8
If their constituents are FOR their representatives, there wouldn't be a problem then, would there? BComplex Apr 2020 #9
The only problem is that JD's are attempting to foment division within our ranks. I'm willing to... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2020 #11
So all the liberals have to pass a purity test? Good luck with that! If you don't like Cenk Ugyr, BComplex Apr 2020 #12
I despise them, and I'm not alone. That's the reason they've had so little success in their... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2020 #19
Cenk is right wing misogynist trash JI7 Apr 2020 #21
It is simply an insulting lie to describe Rep Beatty as a conservative. tritsofme Apr 2020 #10
Their record defines them as liberal democrats uponit7771 Apr 2020 #14
Very scary. Baitball Blogger Apr 2020 #4
I see it just the opposite Budi Apr 2020 #5
It's isn't "one message, one intent". It's a whole philosophy that Justice Democrats are bringing BComplex Apr 2020 #7
So refreshing to have newcomers lecture us on "liberal values" grantcart Apr 2020 #13
First of all, some newcomers....aren't. BComplex Apr 2020 #16
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2020 #18
They aren't the 1st to demand attention to the planet. Budi Apr 2020 #15
👆🏽👆🏽👆🏽THIS !!!👆🏽👆🏽👆🏽 uponit7771 Apr 2020 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2020 #20

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
1. Hmm. Sorry about that problem, but I'm a liberal, and I'm tired of conservative democrats.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:28 AM
Apr 2020

I don't think I'm alone. I'm sympathetic to the long struggle, but it's time to take back the appropriate positions....which to me are the liberal ones.

tritsofme

(17,367 posts)
3. It would be utter nonsense to describe Joyce Beatty as "conservative"
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:36 AM
Apr 2020

Justice “Democrats” are clowns.

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
6. I disagree completely. Justice Democrats is trying to get the liberal message back on the table
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:58 AM
Apr 2020

after 40 years of absence. These young people have found a world where they are not allowed to grow to anywhere near their full potential, and they're fighting with everything they've got.

The liberal message has always been the key to getting this country moving in the proper direction for ALL the people. The conservative message has always messed everything up, and tried to leave just certain groups with the power and the glory.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
8. JD's have performed miserably for a reason. Constituents know their representatives, and they....
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 12:03 PM
Apr 2020

don't buy, for a moment, that these CBC members are "conservative". Anyone who comes for them is an enemy AFAIC, and they must be put down as such.

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
9. If their constituents are FOR their representatives, there wouldn't be a problem then, would there?
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 12:08 PM
Apr 2020

They'll get reelected. If their constituents feel that their representatives are not representing their views, then they'll vote for the other person.

It's not a problem.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
11. The only problem is that JD's are attempting to foment division within our ranks. I'm willing to...
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 12:19 PM
Apr 2020

bet that many of them are not now, or never were "Democrats" to begin with. F**k them, and the Cenk Ugyr they rode in on.

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
12. So all the liberals have to pass a purity test? Good luck with that! If you don't like Cenk Ugyr,
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 12:27 PM
Apr 2020

you don't have to. But if everyone in a liberal movement has to pass some kind of purity test, that's a fantasy, and an unrealistic way to deal with a movement's progress. Are you against the Go Green movement in particular? I think it's a good direction to go in. Will they get everything they're asking for? Not a chance. But I, for one, am REALLY glad they're asking!

If you don't like liberals, you don't have to. Don't vote for them! Vote for the conservatives in the democratic primaries. But I like what the justice democrats are doing.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
19. I despise them, and I'm not alone. That's the reason they've had so little success in their...
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 01:15 PM
Apr 2020

Operation Chaos. People are dying as we speak, and sane people of goodwill and moral clarity, are not going to uproot their known representatives for a pig in a poke. I speak as an AA who is highly resentful & suspicious of this newfound group (JD), and I don't believe for minute that they care any more about the environment than the CBC whose constituents are most affected by it. Not for a minute.

I see you're very new here, so I'll back off before I say something I'll regret.

tritsofme

(17,367 posts)
10. It is simply an insulting lie to describe Rep Beatty as a conservative.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 12:17 PM
Apr 2020

Justice “Democrats” have no credibility, I wish them the worst.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
5. I see it just the opposite
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:56 AM
Apr 2020

A 3rd Party emerged ,more like what Koch funded TeaParty did to the Republican Party.

One message, one intent.

That's terrifying.

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
7. It's isn't "one message, one intent". It's a whole philosophy that Justice Democrats are bringing
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 12:00 PM
Apr 2020

back to life. It's terrifying if you're a liberal to think that there would NOT be a group trying to fight for progressive ideas. Especially when you have a planet that is about to go under due to the weight of "conservative" values.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
13. So refreshing to have newcomers lecture us on "liberal values"
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 12:43 PM
Apr 2020

There is a group that not only fights for but achieves liberal policies in a system that systematically disperses power into a divided power structure which then adds a burden of extra majority bars to pass even minimal legislation.

That group is the Democratic Party.

The single most important progressive issue (after taking the WH) is taking the majority in the Senate.

The big tent broad based Democratic Party is going to achieve that in part by electing two "moderate" candidates in AZ and Montana. That result will give us 4 Democratic Senators in conservative Montana and Arizona and take Mitch McConnell out.

So called Justice Democrats have a blue state only strategy that is weak gruel indeed. They practice political masturbation with a flurry of activity that results in a brief spasm of self gratification

The Sanders/Justice Democrats strategy of "addition by subtraction" never results in actual addition nut does over achieve in subtraction.

Oh and welcome to DEMOCRATIC [/b. Underground.

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
16. First of all, some newcomers....aren't.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 12:47 PM
Apr 2020

Second of all, there is a lot of room for liberals who have been silenced for much too long in the democratic party. If not, then it wouldn't be happening.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
15. They aren't the 1st to demand attention to the planet.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 12:46 PM
Apr 2020

The problem has been that the Repubs & Tea Party "wouldn't have any of that interferance" from a bunch of liberal Democrats.

Its pathetic that a group so intent on damning the works of the Democratic Party, completely by-passed the years of destruction of the RW.

The fact that certain factions seem intent to undermine rather than build upon thru their one drum-beat messaging, is a knife in the back.

There is no part of their message that hasn't been addressed thru the ages by the Democrats in Congress.

Call yourself a republucan, liberal or a progressive, just don't call yourself a Democrat,
That's their constant message.
Its there in the writings of every prominent member of this collective group.

The Koch funded Teaparty did the same thing to the Republican Party
The Koch funded Libertarian Party (Jill Stein, R Paul) has always opposed the societal functions of the Democratic Party.
Kochs are hardly the epitome of 'clean planet for all'.
They have always despised the Democratic Party.

In the 60's when the Kochs formed the John Birch Society they were so anti-Democracy, they were pretty much driven into the shadows, and emerged once again as fringe political groups.
Kochs identify today as Libertarian.

They still believe the Democratic Party should be destroyed.

This is My Opinion, & yes we've seen this atrempt to undermine the Democratic Party & Democracy before.
Populist messaging shouted out loud, with little viable solutions, & an 'Our Way or No Way' approach doesn't accomplish progress, unless the progress desired is to undermine & destroy the only Party that has ever worked to the benefit of the US citizens.

Third & fringe Partys have always been around.
It is their source of money & power, & purpose one better examine before going all in with any shiny new object, one who suddenly emerges beating a message that has long been the fight of the Democratic Party.

It's not a stretch to realize what is taking place.

And that should terrify anyone who values Democracy.









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