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NRaleighLiberal

(60,004 posts)
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:36 PM Apr 2020

so, about that curve flattening and the clamor to "reopen"

not going so great. Nearly 30K confirmed cases, over 2200 deaths. one would think the "experts" would see that weekend totals decrease, but things heat up again on Mondays. Then again, this tragedy has been politicized to death (literally).

I am not used to watching mass suicide efforts, but that seems to be the thing right now.

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Igel

(35,268 posts)
1. More like Tuesday.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:00 PM
Apr 2020

They tick up on Tuesday as all the paperwork from the weekend gets processed. Death reports are also low on Monday.

Nobody should pay attention to one-day numbers. A three-day running average is needed, at the very least. A running average that's 4- or 5-days is better.

The curve, however, has been flattened. See how it increases? That means it has positive slope. You see where the average goes about stead over the course of a week or two? The curve's flattened--the slope goes to zero.

Think driving. You go uphill. When the ground goes flat it's flat. You don't say it's only gone flat when it's heading downhill.

It's the same kind of semantic duplicity with "social distancing." We were told to employ social distancing. Then there was the lockdown. Now people are (intentionally? ignorantly?) insisting that lockdowns = social distancing, so to relax any lockdowns is to dispose of social distancing.

I mean, it's only been 7 weeks. Do people in the media and in politics really have short term memory loss that severe? And it's not being treated by medical professionals--we haven't declared them legally incompetent and appointed them guardians?

SWBTATTReg

(22,044 posts)
2. I agree w/ you. They really do have short term memory (the powers that be) and I think that ...
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:13 PM
Apr 2020

there are cover ups going on in quite a few places, but rigorous examination of the actual numbers will bear out better numbers of CV illnesses and / or death.

Like you, sadly I think when some States open too soon, end distancing (or reduce) guidelines, etc., CV numbers will spike upwards and by then, the damage is already done and a new episode of CV infections will start up again. Especially since there wasn't a national coordination plan in place to deal w/ the CV.

ooky

(8,900 posts)
3. Do you think there would be the same amount of clamoring to reopen if
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:37 PM
Apr 2020

the death rates were evenly distributed across all age groups instead of overwhelmingly hitting the elderly?

jimfields33

(15,642 posts)
4. I think there would be no calls for opening if deaths were evenly distributed
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:41 PM
Apr 2020

across states. 3 states have over half the deaths. Those with low deaths think it’s over. How do you fight that? We can warn until we’re blue but it won’t work.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
5. It will get bad in Ohio in a few weeks...
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:50 PM
Apr 2020

... after the restrictions are lifted.

I’ve seen too many people not being careful.

At least the schools will remain closed here (supposedly), so the young “incubators” won’t be spreading so much death from their classrooms.

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