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A couple of things Trump supporters aren't demanding the reopening of. (Original Post) Different Drummer Apr 2020 OP
Good one. K&R crickets Apr 2020 #1
Trump clip on MSNBC says Red States are fine, all the problem are in Democrat States bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #2
Florida not reporting deaths at home, deaths in care facilities, narrow definitions for hospitals.nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #4
Arizona enid602 Apr 2020 #21
Not much respect for winter residents if state governments think their deaths don't count Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #22
What are those? Karadeniz Apr 2020 #3
Soon Pause Apr 2020 #7
Yeah.... SergeStorms Apr 2020 #10
It's a death cult. Crucifixion, blood of the lamb, sacrifice son on altar, drinking fake blood in Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #24
Yet they claim.... SergeStorms Apr 2020 #28
Well, yes it is a Vampire cult DBoon May 2020 #42
What, in this context, is a "death cult"? whathehell May 2020 #32
Both. Of course with regard to christians it is an exaggeration but the elements are there Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #34
Your conflating of Evangelicals with "Christianity" in general whathehell May 2020 #50
I am fully aware evangelicals are a subset of christians. Your post is garbled. Read my post Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #51
Awww.. whathehell May 2020 #52
I'm not angry. I'm dismissive. Do quit your day job to do standup comedy. You'd be a hit. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #53
Lol..No, you're angry whathehell May 2020 #55
What I noticed is that Jesus had a high blood alcohol content. CaptYossarian May 2020 #36
He did drive... SergeStorms May 2020 #46
Or demanding an huge increase in testing. PaulRevere08 Apr 2020 #5
I doubt Trump Supporters Kaiserguy Apr 2020 #6
Very true. Different Drummer Apr 2020 #23
Or schools and universities bluescribbler Apr 2020 #8
I believe there is. Different Drummer Apr 2020 #25
So stealing. soldierant Apr 2020 #9
Feel free...I stole it. Different Drummer Apr 2020 #26
Danke! soldierant Apr 2020 #29
Or dentists. nt. SayItLoud Apr 2020 #11
I think the dental offices should be open Zing Zing Zingbah Apr 2020 #14
I received an e-mail from my dentist earlier today announcing the reopening generalbetrayus Apr 2020 #15
Dental offices still aren't open in my state Zing Zing Zingbah May 2020 #49
......Well, First Off...... titanicdave Apr 2020 #12
A lot of people use kindles now. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Apr 2020 #13
And a lot of people can't afford kindles, intheflow May 2020 #40
Just pointing out there are options besides going to the library Zing Zing Zingbah May 2020 #41
And's that why your privilege is showing muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #56
Some people live in rural areas with poor to no coverage Retrograde May 2020 #45
They have not read a book. warmfeet Apr 2020 #16
They don't need no fancy book-learnin' now Blue Owl Apr 2020 #17
I'm sure Planned Parenthood is one of them treefarmers Apr 2020 #18
Really ??? musicman65 Apr 2020 #19
TX Gov. Abbott opened libraries. No money for extra measures. BrightKnight Apr 2020 #20
I miss libraries. I will never take them for granted again. n/t. NNadir Apr 2020 #27
I miss my library the most! Chemisse May 2020 #30
They also don't care about planetariums and museums, some of my favorite places. lark May 2020 #31
As a librarian, let me say that there is a huge push to reopen libraries. intheflow May 2020 #33
The real GOP agenda is to quickly infect as many as possible BrightKnight May 2020 #37
Well, I think the real GOP agenda is to line their own pockets intheflow May 2020 #38
Greed Over People Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #54
My wife is a librarian in Rockland County, NY patphil May 2020 #35
Massage parlors are more important dalton99a May 2020 #39
So are bowling alleys. Initech May 2020 #43
Libraries provide a lot of community services Retrograde May 2020 #44
kick Demovictory9 May 2020 #47
The virus can spread through books IronLionZion May 2020 #48

bucolic_frolic

(42,982 posts)
2. Trump clip on MSNBC says Red States are fine, all the problem are in Democrat States
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:46 PM
Apr 2020

Seriously, just saw it on MTP Daily. Total lies and delusion!

enid602

(8,587 posts)
21. Arizona
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:48 PM
Apr 2020

i wonder if Arizona's republican governor is doing the same with regard to snow birds and winter guests.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,925 posts)
22. Not much respect for winter residents if state governments think their deaths don't count
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:50 PM
Apr 2020

I bet a lot of retirees avoid Florida from now on.

 

Pause

(31 posts)
7. Soon
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:08 PM
Apr 2020



We are seeing a downward trend here.
It is still going to be a long time before
people will be comfortable congregating,
Except for the congregations






Washed in the blood, don't you know.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,925 posts)
24. It's a death cult. Crucifixion, blood of the lamb, sacrifice son on altar, drinking fake blood in
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:53 PM
Apr 2020

... in communion, eating fake body, end times, etc.



whathehell

(29,023 posts)
32. What, in this context, is a "death cult"?
Fri May 1, 2020, 09:11 AM
May 2020

Are you talking about Trump's open up policy or the religious particulars of certain Christian denominations?

The leap is large, the connection tenuous in the extreme.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,925 posts)
34. Both. Of course with regard to christians it is an exaggeration but the elements are there
Fri May 1, 2020, 09:33 AM
May 2020

Many trumpanzees are evangelical christians and hypocritical ones at that. They are willing to sacrifice others by breaking physical distancing and not wearing masks and "opening up the economy" regardless of how many people get exposed and subsequently die. Many of them are enamoured of lethal guns. They support the serial divorcer in the White House who is famous for his adultery and other violations of christian doctrine, including lying all the time. They would rather let poor people suffer and die than act in a christian (and humanist) way to them through government.

Perhaps you have noticed other instances of hyperbole for effect on DU with regard to all manner of topics and issues?

whathehell

(29,023 posts)
50. Your conflating of Evangelicals with "Christianity" in general
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:15 PM
May 2020

shows how little you know about either.

The Evangelical movement comprise only about a third of all Christians and so are hardly representative. Please educate yourself.





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Bernardo de La Paz

(48,925 posts)
51. I am fully aware evangelicals are a subset of christians. Your post is garbled. Read my post
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:19 PM
May 2020

... again or for the first time, and look up that big word I used: "hyperbole".

Do you even read your own posts?

Christianity is hardly a "death cult' so please take your silly "death cult" rant about "death cultd"That said, you may

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And educate yourself about Catholic, Episcopal, Lutheran, and Methodist communion.

While you are at it, spread your righteous indignation around posters in this thread who are even more ignorant according to your standards.

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
6. I doubt Trump Supporters
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:03 PM
Apr 2020

have any idea what either one are. If they don't sell guns, beer, food, or off road vehicles they don't go there.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
14. I think the dental offices should be open
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:54 PM
Apr 2020

Taking care of your teeth and mouth is still important to your overall health.

generalbetrayus

(507 posts)
15. I received an e-mail from my dentist earlier today announcing the reopening
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:16 PM
Apr 2020

of his practice next week. He and his staff were wearing face masks, disposable gloves, and protective eye gear well before the pandemic started. Dental care should be included in basic medical care and covered under medical insurance, too. Your teeth and mouth are an integral part of your anatomy and, as you said, care of them are important to your overall health.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
49. Dental offices still aren't open in my state
Sat May 2, 2020, 01:41 PM
May 2020

They will only see you if it is an emergency. I read article about one local dental practice that took out a loan to get all this safety equipment to open up May 1st, but they are still not able to open up because the state decided it was in conflict with CDC recommendations. This particular dentist said he is getting concerned because they longer we put off dental procedures, the worse it is going to be when they up back up again. For example, some people will need root canals because their cavities weren't taken care of in a timely fashion. Basically, the problems are going to become more severe and the procedures will be more expensive.

titanicdave

(429 posts)
12. ......Well, First Off......
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:37 PM
Apr 2020

........"Death Cult #45".... idiots.......(thank you, Randi Rhodes)...... need to know what those facilities are.....and to do so would require that they try to discover what those facilities are......so they'd need to use their "brains"....which are missing in action on them.....

intheflow

(28,442 posts)
40. And a lot of people can't afford kindles,
Fri May 1, 2020, 01:10 PM
May 2020

or even books ordered from amazon. Some can't afford a cellphone, wifi, or computer. This is a large demographic in my city. Your privilege is showing.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
41. Just pointing out there are options besides going to the library
Fri May 1, 2020, 01:37 PM
May 2020

If you have a library card, you can even check out library books direct to your kindle. I believe most libraries now provide this service. You can get a kindle e-reader for around $100, which isn't all that much. It just depends on whether it is worth it to you. It is not a pricey device. There are also a ton of e-books out there on amazon and other places that are free.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,257 posts)
56. And's that why your privilege is showing
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:45 PM
May 2020

You dismiss spending $100. There are some e-books for free on Amazon; but if you think education (or reading for pleasure) is just about reading any book, then you obviously don't do much of it. Some library books are available electronically, but not all.

Retrograde

(10,119 posts)
45. Some people live in rural areas with poor to no coverage
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:36 PM
May 2020

where the local library is often the only affordable internet (I'm related to one). Others may have to decide between high speed enough access to get ebooks from their libraries or pay for groceries, transportation, etc.

I love the libraries' electronic services (yep, plural: in addition to my local city library I have a card from the San Francisco system that lets me access their more extensive electronic collection) and use them regularly. But I have the resources to do so, which not everyone does.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
16. They have not read a book.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:32 PM
Apr 2020

They have not been to a Library.

They don't know what knowledge is.

They do not care about anything, except for themselves.

BrightKnight

(3,567 posts)
20. TX Gov. Abbott opened libraries. No money for extra measures.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:47 PM
Apr 2020

I think that Dallas is going to keep them closed for “economic” reasons. The re-open order did not include funding for the extra measures that would be required to do it safely.


Any thing to make the numbers go up...

lark

(23,058 posts)
31. They also don't care about planetariums and museums, some of my favorite places.
Fri May 1, 2020, 08:46 AM
May 2020

Not going to any restaurants to eat in, we'll continue to get take-out 1-2x per week and otherwise cook at home. #'s in USA, outside of NY, are not going down, we are not safe to be mingling shoulder to shoulder as tangerine terrorist is advocating. He is dead set on killing the max numbers of Americans, but most of us aren''t with his program.

intheflow

(28,442 posts)
33. As a librarian, let me say that there is a huge push to reopen libraries.
Fri May 1, 2020, 09:23 AM
May 2020

And it terrifies us library workers! Libraries aren't like retail establishments, where people buy things and then keep them. We're not like restaurants doing curbside pickup because no one returns their dirty to-go cups to the restaurant. And we're not like most municipal offices, where people walk in, go to a counter, get a piece of paper (or whatever) and leave, again, never returning the paper. No, libraries are places where people walk in, walk to every corner, and touch all the things, which is a huge disease vector. Then when they're done with the their items, they return them. As COVID-19 can live on plastic for up to 72 hours, and most of our items are covered in plastic, that means we have to quarantine all returns for three days, and few libraries have the building space for that.

Please, avail yourselves of our electronic resources during this time. Feel free to call us for reference questions, we're still open for that! (Most librarians are either working in closed buildings or the library's phones are forwarded to our homes during business hours.) Please don't push for the library to reopen! And in the meantime, lobby your city/town/county to not lay off library worker at this time because when we do open, our doors will be beaten down by people applying for jobs, families needing safe space to play and learn, and all the other things the library does - and that we miss providing! We do miss our patrons, but we want you and us alive and healthy when normality returns.

BrightKnight

(3,567 posts)
37. The real GOP agenda is to quickly infect as many as possible
Fri May 1, 2020, 12:15 PM
May 2020

A lot more people will die but they are dumb enough to think they will benefit.

intheflow

(28,442 posts)
38. Well, I think the real GOP agenda is to line their own pockets
Fri May 1, 2020, 01:05 PM
May 2020

with the blood of workers. And also to deny people unemployment benefits. But there's no reason the GOP can't have multiple agenda items.

patphil

(6,134 posts)
35. My wife is a librarian in Rockland County, NY
Fri May 1, 2020, 10:16 AM
May 2020

That county is about 30-40 miles from NYC, and has around 10,000 cases of covid19, and 500 deaths.
They have been closed since Friday, March 13th. I know, Friday the 13th.

Anyway she tell me about all the concerns and obstacles to reopening the library.
Patrons typically browse around a library, picking up and putting down books, magazines, CD's, and DVD's. Some of them spend hours in the library...it's a social experience for lots of people.

It's impossible for a library to disinfect all their materials, let alone all the surfaces, furniture, and computers on a regular basis...they simply don't have the budget or staff for it.
When the library opens, it will probably be for some sort of order and pickup type of situation.
They don't see the public being able to come in and walk around even with ppe's until there is an effective treatment.
Can you imagine children wearing masks and gloves and not touching anything? Not to mention that there is senior citizen housing across the street and they have a large number of elderly patrons.
It's a medical disaster waiting for a chance to happen.

Of course, that isn't why the Trump beast and his minions haven't called for opening libraries and bookstores. First, they don't read a lot,and secondly, libraries don't sell anything, they are a service to their communities.

My wife wants me to put in a plug for libraries in general. Many libraries are still open digitally and have a lot of content that can be accessed by computer. They also have staff working from home who operate a help desk to answer questions and give assistance to patrons.
Librarians have always been community oriented, and will do what they can to help people get through this most difficult situation.

Initech

(100,013 posts)
43. So are bowling alleys.
Fri May 1, 2020, 01:55 PM
May 2020

That one I still can't get over. Bowling alleys are germ-infested cess pools.

Retrograde

(10,119 posts)
44. Libraries provide a lot of community services
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:28 PM
May 2020

Here, most of them have rooms available to community groups for meetings. For some people, it's their only access to decent internet service.

I wish they would open at least for a day, though: I have 2 library books sitting at home that I'd really like to return. Since all the libraries in the Bay Area are now closed they've extended the due dates to the end of June, but I'd really like them out of my custody.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
48. The virus can spread through books
Fri May 1, 2020, 04:16 PM
May 2020

so they must be disposed of in the most patriotic way possible. Socialists wouldn't understand since books make you soft and weak.

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