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imanamerican63

(13,765 posts)
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:12 AM May 2020

When did we start hating in politics?

I think it go back into the 60’s? I was born in 1963, so it’s not for me know exactly when it started. But from what I hear and read from that year on, the Republican Party did not like the fact that a Catholic man John F. Kennedy, was going to be president. Fast forward to the 70’s, Jimmy Carter was labeled as a “Hillbilly” and than in the late 80’s into the 2000’s, Bill Clinton was labeled a crook. As we know how they felt about Al Gore and Barack Obama. As we move forward to 2015, Hillary Clinton and to present time Joe Biden, they have to endure Trump and his hatred band of minions!

I used to trust our government to do the right things to keep us safe and make our freedoms the best that world has. Not now! The Democrats are doing what they can to hold off the total control by a man who’s ego is bigger than his politics. The Republicans have an evil plan and it has involved into a hatred by them and their lust for control by their man, Trump! Knowing Trump will do anything for his ego, they use him to pack the courts, put all of Trump’s “yes men” in jobs at the WH!

The appeal to the GOPers who follow Trump an the band of goons is alarming and dangerous! I have friends and family members who have the hatred in their minds about how bad the other party is(Democrats). It has and will continue to tear these relationships apart.

I don’t like the word “hate”, because I fell it makes me unkind to others? I don’t like things like dirty ploys to get ahead. I am a person of faith and know God will judge me when my time is done on earth. I know each of us have our own beliefs and own ideas, but when Trump and the Republicans push their beliefs over mine that is my hatred for them. I don’t hate the person, I hate their attempted to push me out of their way, just so they have control of my wellbeing. I would hope someday, we can come together and stop the hatred for one another! I know it’s a stretch, but we have to hope!

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When did we start hating in politics? (Original Post) imanamerican63 May 2020 OP
since day one beachbumbob May 2020 #1
I started back with Ronald Reagan, the worst president ever for working doc03 May 2020 #2
That was my thought, too. Nt Blue_playwright May 2020 #8
He made the public think the PATCO strikers were criminals. lpbk2713 May 2020 #21
The 1960s was the decade that civil rights for people of color got a toehold. House of Roberts May 2020 #3
Newt didn't help, he weaponized words. dem4decades May 2020 #4
Newt Gingrich, Tom Delay and Rush. nt oasis May 2020 #35
For me the HATE came with jr. Ferrets are Cool May 2020 #5
Since before we even became a country n/t Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #6
+100000 Celerity May 2020 #10
Forever. But it was purposely sharpened by Nixon's southern strategy, Ailes/Reagan & Rove/Bush. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #7
Spiro T. Agnew 4/13/1969 safeinOhio May 2020 #9
For me it started with Eleanor Roosevelt. DURHAM D May 2020 #11
I watched the documentary by Ken Burns on PBS Boomerproud May 2020 #33
When I first noticed something different Mike 03 May 2020 #12
Hate radio. Our side has ignored hate radio for over three decades and we still do. CrispyQ May 2020 #13
Yep-what Crispy said. Alliepoo May 2020 #15
Amen to everything you have said. I've talked myself sick, trying to get Democrats Nay May 2020 #17
This: And we have to wonder why. CrispyQ May 2020 #37
Goebbels & Hitler used new mass media radio to spread appalachiablue May 2020 #34
And Newt Gingrich's focus group tested list of negative terms for Democrats LastDemocratInSC May 2020 #14
About 6,000 BC. Wounded Bear May 2020 #16
Exactly DFW May 2020 #20
I will allow that the amount of hatred in politics tends to vary and ebb and flow like the tides. Wounded Bear May 2020 #22
If the currect situation is not peak DFW May 2020 #23
Since it became a matter of morality instead of politics. Talitha May 2020 #18
I agree with this. It (hate) has always been there, but when the Christian moralists started... northoftheborder May 2020 #25
Way before Aleaxander Hamilton was killed by Aaron Burr DFW May 2020 #19
Rush Limbaugh. Goodheart May 2020 #24
Ding ding ding!1 The hate has always been here, but he's the source of the current cycle. UTUSN May 2020 #38
When the evil demons started showing their true colors. I kacekwl May 2020 #26
That is a good point! imanamerican63 May 2020 #27
For me it was the late 60's. Really hit home as time went by. George Wallace. Agnew. Nixon. dameatball May 2020 #28
"I welcome their hate" denem May 2020 #29
I think it started with Jimmy Carter/Ronald Reagan MiniMe May 2020 #30
It's been happening for awhile. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #31
when Reagan made greed and idiocy fashionable Skittles May 2020 #32
Lee Atwater not_the_one May 2020 #36

doc03

(35,324 posts)
2. I started back with Ronald Reagan, the worst president ever for working
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:17 AM
May 2020

people. It has been down hill ever since.

lpbk2713

(42,751 posts)
21. He made the public think the PATCO strikers were criminals.
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:43 AM
May 2020


And by association anyone in organized labor was just as bad.

Fuck RayGun.

House of Roberts

(5,168 posts)
3. The 1960s was the decade that civil rights for people of color got a toehold.
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:19 AM
May 2020

The hatred kicked into high gear in backlash to that.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,105 posts)
5. For me the HATE came with jr.
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:25 AM
May 2020

Yes, I could get into a heated argument with friends over politics before then, but it wasn't until that stolen election that the word "HATE" crept into my vocabulary.
I look back on Raygun and I strongly disliked his policies, but I never hated anyone for voting for him, nor did I "hate" him.
Bush Sr was a miserable President, but I didn't hate him, just his policies.

With jr, it was a whole other ballgame. This evil man, along with his sidekick (or Master), his propaganda machine on AM radio and Faux Snooze fermented my HATE gene. I HATE everything republican now with a fervor reserved for only that, the wanton killing of innocent animals and child abuse.

I don't like hating people, but when they are evil, they deserve ALL of it.

Boomerproud

(7,949 posts)
33. I watched the documentary by Ken Burns on PBS
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:19 PM
May 2020

over the last couple of weeks. During the war the hate from the Repukes got so bad that Elliott Roosevelt told someone he hoped either he or one of his brothers would be killed so that his parents would be left alone. He flew 300 combat missions.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
12. When I first noticed something different
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:46 AM
May 2020

This isn't a historical answer, just something I remember from the nineties.

There was a guy named Larry Nichols who used to go on Los Angeles talk radio frequently after Clinton became president and spew the vilest lies about him, including that he was involved somehow in drugrunning, the murder of boys who stumbled onto a secret airport, the death of prostitutes, and that was the first time I ever heard the phrase "Clinton body count." That was the kind of extreme hate speech I had never personally heard before. It was the Clinton hate generally.

Extreme conspiracy theories then generated nonstop about a number of crises during that period:

Waco
The suicide of Vince Foster (almost forgot that one)
Ruby Ridge
Oklahoma bombing
the mid air explosion of TWA flight 800

Somehow, some way Bill or Hillary Clinton could always be traced back to these events. It was ridiculous and it became a constant drumbeat.

Newt Gingrich also popped up somewhere around here and he knew no boundaries when it came to scoring political points by pitting Rs against Ds.

CrispyQ

(36,446 posts)
13. Hate radio. Our side has ignored hate radio for over three decades and we still do.
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:56 AM
May 2020

While we were running as fast as we could from the word liberal, because a two-bit actor poked fun at the word, the right was busy funding think tanks to craft their message and buying up radio stations to broadcast it. Huge swaths of America are blanketed with the message of hate from Limbaugh and his ilk. Hours and hours of hate, everyday, directed at liberals, uppity women, minorities, & gays, and our side has let that message of hate and exclusion go unchallenged in rural America for decades. It plays on many of our university radio stations, too. It's infected an entire segment of our society and we still ignore it like it doesn't make any difference. Hate radio is why old white guys wear tee-shirts that read "I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat." Until the Democratic Party wakes the fuck up and seriously challenges the right wing media machine, we are never coming together as a nation.

I swear, it's like the dems don't even have a fucking marketing department.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
17. Amen to everything you have said. I've talked myself sick, trying to get Democrats
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:32 AM
May 2020

to realize that they are being propagandized out of existence by talk radio. Twenty years I've talked. It's obvious to me, so it must be obvious to them, yet there is no pushback. "the Dems don't even have a marketing department" -- true, they don't. And we have to wonder why.

But now, of course, it is effectively too late. We as a whole are going to suffer the fate of being subjected to morons, and the final ending is too scary to contemplate.

CrispyQ

(36,446 posts)
37. This: And we have to wonder why.
Wed May 6, 2020, 10:07 AM
May 2020

We needed a true opposition party the past 40 years, not just a party that goes along to get along, which is what I think the dems have largely done while the GOP went hard right. And today I think the old guard dems are still in denial about the true nature of their colleagues across the aisle, especially those who they have worked with for decades. If Joe Biden thinks the repubs are going to work with him just because they have history with him, he's in for a rude awakening. They are not going to work with him or any other democrat any better than they did with Obama.

We need a huge majority in both chambers to set things straight, and then we need a Democratic Party that is willing to go BOLD and make those changes.

appalachiablue

(41,114 posts)
34. Goebbels & Hitler used new mass media radio to spread
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:35 PM
May 2020

the Nazi way and look what happened. Who can't see the parallels and dangers?

LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
14. And Newt Gingrich's focus group tested list of negative terms for Democrats
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:58 AM
May 2020

In the mid 1990s. His effort to increase the hate was calculated and deliberate.

Wounded Bear

(58,626 posts)
16. About 6,000 BC.
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:30 AM
May 2020

When cities started being built and people started to gather in larger than tribal groups, although it probably pre-dates that. After all, the essential message of tribe is "us and them."

Wounded Bear

(58,626 posts)
22. I will allow that the amount of hatred in politics tends to vary and ebb and flow like the tides.
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:45 AM
May 2020

I'm hoping the current rising tide of hatred will peak and start to ebb again.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
25. I agree with this. It (hate) has always been there, but when the Christian moralists started...
Sun May 3, 2020, 11:27 AM
May 2020

....getting involved in influencing policy and politicians as a movement ----- that's when it really started getting ugly.

UTUSN

(70,671 posts)
38. Ding ding ding!1 The hate has always been here, but he's the source of the current cycle.
Wed May 6, 2020, 10:53 AM
May 2020

He's the one who zeroed into Scorched Earth, take no prisoners, zero moderation and cooperation and bipartisanship.






kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
26. When the evil demons started showing their true colors. I
Sun May 3, 2020, 11:27 AM
May 2020

didn't hate W Bush but absolutely hated Cheney. Then hated McConnell and his evil crew after Obama was elected they actively tried to destroy America. Then of course trump the most evil devil to live. I don't hate easily but you reach a point.....

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
30. I think it started with Jimmy Carter/Ronald Reagan
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:13 PM
May 2020

Reagan ketchup is a vegetable started it when he had Iran hold the hostages and not release them before the election. Then they fell in love with Reagan and BushI. They hated Clinton. They weren't crazy about BushII, but they came around after 9/11.Then they hated the black guy. They hated Bill Clinton so much, it carried over to Hillary, plus she was an OMG woman.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
31. It's been happening for awhile.
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:29 PM
May 2020

My older brother was a preteen in 1963, who delivered an afternoon newspaper including the day after JFK was assassinated. One of the men on his route (who he never liked) smiled broadly and said the headline about JFK’s death was the “best news” he’d ever seen.

My brother was speechless, and totally confused by such hatred.

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