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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDebunked smear against Biden had 6 on-the-record corroborators/liars. People lie. Same with Tara
Reade and her "on-the-record corroborators/liars".
There really needs to be legal recourse for this crap. No one should have a right to maliciously try to ruin a person's good reputation!
Link to tweet
H2O Man
(73,510 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,425 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)This needs to get to the point where Reade & her Six Friends have say it under oath.
Hav
(5,969 posts)had the claim been made for any other year that Biden had attended this event. 6 apparent witnesses to support that claim. What could Biden have done to prove his innocence in that case? Not being there is possibly the only way that Biden could have refuted that claim. That's some incredible luck but it also shows that corroborating witnesses can mean absolutely nothing. First, it's possible that they were only told a lie, secondly, they can be liars themselves. These smears are so damaging for real victims.
Rose twitter and Magats still run with this despite the evidence that Biden wasn't there. It's crazy.
Apparently, O'Donnell still maintains that it's true. It has now changed to that the year doesn't matter. Strange that she never mentioned any of this during the 2008 or 2012 elections.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,165 posts)Its obvious GOP strategists have realized that we can be our worst enemies. Using our own weakness against us. They know that there will always be a vocal minority on the left that are just as impervious to due diligence as the fringes of the right. That simply saying the word "abused" out loud is enough to incriminate. Or at the very least make them resign and go away. The beauty of it is they don't have to do much after the initial payouts. Just sit back and watch us eat ourselves.
note* Do you have to keep using "Bernie Bros" to describe those calling themselves leftists who supported Sanders from the beginning? Apart from the insulting insinuation that Sanders supporters were only made up of white men, when in fact he had the most diverse base of all the candidates. But also, using it now, after Sanders has endorsed Biden, and BTW in doing so, has those who you mistakenly refer to as "Bernie Bros" railing against him as a sell out. They are not Bros of Bernie now. Real Bernie Bros and Sisters are following his lead. Also there is a distinction between American Democratic voting Sanders supporters critical of the rightward shift in the party, and the GOP and Putin trolls who concentrate more on personal scandal and conspiracy theories. Easy to lump both into the same camp.
Hav
(5,969 posts)It just makes me angry when supposed progressives who should be on the same side fighting for similar goals keep pushing things that are demonstrably false and whose primary goal seems to be anti-Biden.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,165 posts)I agree with you. The disgruntled left must pull their socks up and carry on. Its tough though coming in as the bridesmaid twice in row now. So close. it is a bitter disappointment. We really thought this time we could start the process at least to move to a form of M4A like almost every other damn country on the planet has. Anyways. Too many powers working against progressives. One of those was the ugly meme of "Bernie Bros" when all kinds of studies showed Sanders had a large demographic. And in fact, had more women, under 45, than men supporters. But don't tell some that.
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/gyzjmb/bernie-bros-women-under-45-make-up-a-larger-share-of-bernie-sanders-base-than-men
New findings from The Economist show that women under 45 make up a larger share of Bernie Sanders base than do men in their same age group
Add to that Sanders had the most diverse base than any candidate. Bernie Bros was an invented term when Russian bots tried to pile on Hillary's campaign in 2016, and the name stuck to any Sanders supporter thereafter.
Make no mistake, it is very difficult for progressives right now. But we just do not have a choice now. If Sarandon wanted the wake up call, we now have it. I don't see the point on continuing it, as some do on the extreme left. Not that I don't agree with their goals, but we have to rid the country of Trump as soon as possible. I don't think we'd have a country left to bicker the fine points of D party direction on DU in 4 years if Trump remained. At least more are aware and approve of universal medicare now with the exposure Sanders and Warren brought it. Maybe next time.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)Even stories of those who came with accusation without naming themselves were accepted as proof. How is someone supposed to defend him or herself against anonymous accusations? But yet those anonymous accusations were considered "credible."
sop
(10,106 posts)In the law, a "corroborating witness" is defined as "a witness whose testimony supports or confirms testimony that is already given." It's not just someone to whom the story was repeated after the fact by the alleged victim.
DrToast
(6,414 posts)The next bogus accusers might be a little less incompetent and actually choose an event he was at.
PatSeg
(47,282 posts)at this fake slander stuff. Lee Atwater must be rolling over in his grave!
Butterflylady
(3,537 posts)Evidently they didn't pay attention to the fine details.
Cha
(296,875 posts)Christine O'Donnell and her magat posse.
Thank you for this Skya! Damn the RF TROLLS
DENVERPOPS
(8,790 posts)"No one should have a right to maliciously try to ruin a person's good reputation!"
I would have loved it if KERRY had gone after the SwiftBoat crowd in court for Libel, Slander and Defamation of Character.
That was a slam dunk.......
It should have been prosecuted as a felony in Federal Criminal courts for obstruction/interference in a national/presidential election.....
Instead, Kerry, just as Gore had done, basically just quietly walked away. Where was the National Democrat Committee??????
Same with all the fraud committed against Hillary to corruptly get Trump "appointed"?? Where was the DNC ???????????
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)cstanleytech
(26,245 posts)conspiracy and take them to the cleaners.
Mind you it will have to wait until after the election but it should be done.
keithbvadu2
(36,672 posts)Trumpsters will soon have a crowd who sat in the bleachers watching it happen.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)There are a lot of people who arent buying into Reades claims.
Ellen Forradalom
(16,159 posts)We are not relitigating the primaries at this point.