Oh--look at this VP poll:

[Kingofalldems]

Link to tweet

[LakeArenal]

1. That look on Joe's face makes me hope she isn't.

No primary VP.

[still_one]

14. It won't be. Mass has a republican Governor, and we need her in the Senate

The pollsters were all wrong about our nominee

[LakeArenal]

17. Hope so.

[Marrah_Goodman]

27. He does not appoint a replacement

[still_one]

29. "The Massachusetts governor has the power to name a temporary replacement

"Both Massachusetts and Vermont have Republican governors who have the power to name a temporary replacement to fill Warren’s or Sanders’ vacant Senate seat with a Republican replacement. "


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/warren-or-sanders-presidency-could-cost-democrats-senate-seat-n1032421

"Under Massachusetts state law, the governor must call for a special election 145 to 160 days after the vacancy — which means a Democrat, if he or she wins the special election, might not claim the Senate seat until months after a Warren presidency begins."

....

"Being temporarily without a Democratic senator in Massachusetts or Vermont could endanger the new president getting Cabinet secretaries confirmed and early legislative priorities passed.
It also could postpone Democrats taking control of the Senate — if they net the three Senate seats needed to flip the chamber, but briefly lose either Massachusetts or Vermont.
And then there’s the potential worst-case scenario: While Democrats would be favored to win the eventual special election in either of these deep-blue states, it was less than a decade ago when Republican Scott Brown won a special Senate election in Massachusetts after Ted Kennedy died in Barack Obama’s first year as president."

[Bucky]

32. It would definitely interfere in SCOTUS nominations, probably not cabinet tho

[still_one]

36. Yes. An example why even a temporary replacement would be a risk was when we lost Ted Kennedy

Paul Kirk was appointed to temporarily fill the seat, and the Senate Democrats quickly passed the ACA.

The problem occurred when the special election occurred and Scott Brown won. Because of Brown's win, the assumption that the Senate bill would be tweaked considerably to conform more with the House bill passed two months earlier went out the window. It was either have the House pass the identical Senate bill, or lose the ACA passage entirely, because the reconciliation with House version of the bill was never going to happen because Democrats no longer had the sixtieth vote in the Senate to end the debate.

It passed on March 21, 2010, 219 to 212. No republicans came on board, and 34 Democrats voted against it.

With the risk of the Supreme Court as you pointed out, along with other judicial appointments, issues, etc., it would be unwise to take a chance having a republican temporarily appointing a replacement Senate seat, and then assume the special election would necessarily be a Democrat

Remember Mass also elected Romney as their Governor.

I like Senator Warren, but I don't think it is worth the risk

[Marrah_Goodman]

42. You are right, I was mistaken

[Hortensis]

51. Democrats have good means of keeping the seat, including legal

means to accomplish it, so that's not an overriding concern. Most seem to have forgotten, but this was all worked over in 2015-16 when she was very seriously considered.

Among whatever I read, the one thing I remember is that MA law would allow Warren to set the date for when she would stop fulfilling her duties into the future from when she officially announced, narrowing the gap an appointee would fill from whatever to technically nothing.

And a repeat of what happened when Ted Kennedy died is considered extremely unlikely. True, too many of MA's white male Democrats didn't like her as an iconoclastic candidate for president, but I'm guessing there'd be more acceptance of her as running mate to a standard-brand white man.

I'm among those who like her. Even though she lost my support in the primary, I've always thought she might play a fantastic Frances Perkins role. Given that in 2015 Biden reportedly (according to staffers then) wanted only her if he ran and they met to discuss it, that Biden is looking for an assistant president and trusted friend who can take on a big portfolio, that Biden knows she would (like Perkins) use big problems to create big advances, and of course her appeal to people impatient for big change, ... hard to imagine someone who'd be better.

Though maybe he has a very short list of people he thinks could be as good.

[Skittles]

2. NO

in the cabinet maybe but NO for VP

[exboyfil]

5. It would be a step down

but SEC Chairmen would be nice.

Secretary of the Treasury would signal a significant departure from prior selections of both parties (which seemed to be beholden to the big banks especially Goldman Sucks All).

[Victor_c3]

7. Totally agree n/t

[Harry Walpurgisnacht]

45. Treasury

I like it!

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. No thanks.

n/t

[CurtEastPoint]

4. Nope. Love EW, better used elsewhere. We GOTTA reflect Amurka!

[TreasonousBastard]

6. Why do we care who Dems want as Veep? Most Dems will vote for Biden no matter who the Veep is...

so we are looking for someone who will bring n the fence-sitters.

[KPN]

9. Ergo millions of Greenies, I'd and stay home

rather than vote D’s. Your post mirrors a ver real perception.

[Cha]

33. Selfish Greenies, if they stay home, who don't give a shtie for the Planet, our

country, her people, or the Supreme Court.

If I understand your post correctly.

[still_one]

37. I would definitely NOT count on the "greenies". They demonstrated that in 2016

[Cha]

38. Yeah, they're already signed up for more RF..

Link to tweet

[still_one]

41. +++

[womanofthehills]

49. Last week Joy Read had quite a few black women guests

And they all said - Joe picking a black women would energize black women to get out the vote.

[TreasonousBastard]

55. No doubt it would, but aren't they already energized? We need to get those non-black...

female teachers, housewives, lawyers, bus drivers, nurses, doctors... out to the polls. And while not ignoring or insulting the sistahs out there.

Not just to vote against Trump, (he's doing well enough at that all by himself) but to give them someone to vote for. And, hopefully, someone who their husbands, boyfriends, brothers, and sons can perk up and vote for.

In a just world, Susan Rice would be just the one.

[StarfishSaver]

58. So, because black women have been loyal, no need to reach out to us?

It's fine to tell us we shouldn't have a candidate that looks like us on the ticket because, once again, we don't want to upset white women, so just suck it up and wait another four years before we have another chance to be represented. But God forbid we ever tell white women that THEY should start to vote for people who don't look like them.

Sorry, I'm done with the "black women are loyal and will vote for whomever we put up so but white women can't be trusted to be open-minded so, even though black women are the backbone of the party by all means, let's keep kissing white women's asses while we tell black women to go take a seat, we'll call you when we need your vote."

[TreasonousBastard]

60. That is not what I said. In fact, I specifically said this is not a zero-sum game where if we are...

to get more white support, we would have to lose black support.

You may even have noticed that I suggested the best candidate was, in fact, a black woman.

[Phoenix61]

8. She's my pick. I think she'd be great.

With all the brouha about Biden’s age having a VP who is fully capable of being president is a plus.

[dixiechiken1]

15. Agree 100%! n/t

[LakeArenal]

18. She's old, too.. She can stroke out just as likely as Biden.

[Phoenix61]

19. So, Biden is too old to be Pres?

Seriously? I think she’d do a great job.

[LakeArenal]

21. No but what I heard for months is he has to bring someone young.

Same as if she was nominee she would not pick Biden.

[still_one]

39. That isn't the only point. She would vacate her Senate seat, and the republican governor

would temporarily appoint her replacement. Because of the Supreme Court if nothing else, it is not worth the risk to lost her seat even temporarily in the Senate, and there is no guarantee that when the special election is held six months later that a Democrat would win. Remember Scott Brown?

An example why even a temporary replacement would be a risk was when we lost Ted Kennedy

Paul Kirk was appointed to temporarily fill the seat, and the Senate Democrats quickly passed the ACA.

The problem occurred when the special election occurred and Scott Brown won. Because of Brown's win, the assumption that the Senate bill would be tweaked considerably to conform more with the House bill passed two months earlier went out the window. It was either have the House pass the identical Senate bill, or lose the ACA passage entirely, because the reconciliation with House version of the bill was never going to happen because Democrats no longer had the sixtieth vote in the Senate to end the debate.

It passed on March 21, 2010, 219 to 212. No republicans came on board, and 34 Democrats voted against it.

With the risk of the Supreme Court as you pointed out, along with other judicial appointments, issues, etc., it would be unwise to take a chance having a republican temporarily appointing a replacement Senate seat, and then assume the special election would necessarily be a Democrat

Remember Mass also elected Romney as their Governor.

[Bucky]

34. She's only 70... and healthy & energetic

Lordy, please, with that "she's old" baloney. What are you, a Hollywood casting director?

[LakeArenal]

54. So is Joe. He won't pick Warren.

[Bucky]

59. She wouldn't be my choice either. I was only addressing the stupidity of your comment

[LakeArenal]

61. And I was addressing the stupidity of all those who said Joe was too old and

He better pick someone young.

Personally I think Joe kicked himself in a corner when he said he would automatically pick a woman.

[bmbmd]

10. I'm trusting Joe to save America.

Guess I can trust him to make the right vp choice.

[Takket]

11. not that i don't love her... she was my choice for pres (well after Kamala lol)

but the governor of Mass is a rethug and we can't risk losing the Senate because we made Warren VP.

[Marrah_Goodman]

28. He does not appoint a replacement

[Green Line]

35. Yes he does

[Marrah_Goodman]

44. You are right, I was mistaken

[still_one]

40. Yes he does for a temporary replacement until a special election can be held

and losing a seat in the Senate for 4 to 6 months before a special election, with no guarantee that a Democrat would be elected, i.e. look at Scott Brown, the Supreme Court is NOT worth that risk

"Both Massachusetts and Vermont have Republican governors who have the power to name a temporary replacement to fill Warren’s or Sanders’ vacant Senate seat with a Republican replacement. "


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/warren-or-sanders-presidency-could-cost-democrats-senate-seat-n1032421

"Under Massachusetts state law, the governor must call for a special election 145 to 160 days after the vacancy — which means a Democrat, if he or she wins the special election, might not claim the Senate seat until months after a Warren presidency begins."

....

"Being temporarily without a Democratic senator in Massachusetts or Vermont could endanger the new president getting Cabinet secretaries confirmed and early legislative priorities passed.
It also could postpone Democrats taking control of the Senate — if they net the three Senate seats needed to flip the chamber, but briefly lose either Massachusetts or Vermont.
And then there’s the potential worst-case scenario: While Democrats would be favored to win the eventual special election in either of these deep-blue states, it was less than a decade ago when Republican Scott Brown won a special Senate election in Massachusetts after Ted Kennedy died in Barack Obama’s first year as president."

[Marrah_Goodman]

43. You are right, I was mistaken

[still_one]

47. In a way we are both right Marrah, but it is that temporary appointment that makes it

too risky in my view. Thanks

[KPN]

12. Won't happen but she would be great without

any question. As far as one step away from being P, she’d be my pick.

[VarryOn]

13. A VP has to to take a second-fiddle role...

Allowing the presidential candidates home and take the lead role. As much as I like EW, I don’t see her holding back. It’s not that I don’t think she couldn’t, I can see it with the right candidate. I just think with Joe, she’d appear top billing even if she didn’t try.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Warren would be brilliant, if we can afford her not holding her Senate seat. . . . nt

[beachbumbob]

20. I seriously doubt Warren would be chosen, way too many factors.

It will be Harris in the end

[pattyloutwo]

22. Yes!

So funny how she’s too old among some Biden supporters! I heard a plan to address senate seat. I think it was that she resigns early so seat is replaced earlier than midterm? Something like that. Mass will vote dem.

[kcr]

56. I wouldn't worry. DU is the place I see people saying that the most.

Polls have been consistently showing Dems want Warren. If it stays that way, she has a real shot at it.

[GulfCoast66]

23. I would not complain. But have said for over a year Biden/Harris is our best ticket.

It immediately reinvigorates the Obama coalition.

They win here in Florida. In my state and many others African American Women are the driving base of our party.

[Cha]

25. Just saw this on twitter..

Link to tweet

[GulfCoast66]

30. Thank you.

Its been the ticket I’ve wanted forever. Except for political reasons she would have been my choice for President. But sadly I’m not sure Americans would vote for an African American female for president. After seeing a kick-ass African American Female VP hopefully they will be!

She is the total package. And I dream about her debating Pence.

She a proven prosecutor with experience arguing cases. He is a walking corpse who has never had an original idea in his life. And does nothing without Mothers blessing.

If she is on the ticket the Democratic base will be so motivated the republicans will have to spend money in the South, which they have taken for granted. We will Florida. Texas and Georgia are a reach. But Adams only lost Georgia by like 2%. And the virus is about to destroy them.

[Cha]

31. It will Spring K-Hive into Action &

Inspire a lot of Souls to the Polls even more so.. imv.

They'll certainly be Vetting the hell out the VP list.. Like Obama.

[Cha]

24. And, yet from the Boston Globe.. I really don't know who would be the best, yet..

Link to tweet

[Marrah_Goodman]

26. Yes!

This would definitely get me more excited for November.

[boston bean]

46. I don't think she is his best pick.

I think it is going to be Kamala.

[PunkinPi]

52. +1 nt

[Dem4Life1102]

48. National polls like this are of no consequence

It will be polls among key demographics and key swing states that will ultimately inform the decision.

[Owl]

50. Elizabeth is my first choice as well.

[CTyankee]

53. I keep tellin' ya...Susan Rice!

She was mentioned again in today's NYT article with high praise for her governing ability. PLUS, she brings the Obama administration with all its glories to mind.

The woman is golden, IMO.

[Baclava]

57. Madam Vice President Warren! I love it