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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Mon May 4, 2020, 04:00 AM May 2020

Also George W. Bush can shut his pie hole and disappear

Seriously this infuriates me. This man, and his invasion of Iraq, are why President Trump is even possible (and Orban. And Modi. And Johnson. And...)

No matter how bad Trump has gotten, Shrub was still worse. And I don't care to see him on TV talking down "partisanship".

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roamer65

(36,744 posts)
1. I think Bu$h threw it out there as "bait" for COVID-45 to tweet and look dumber.
Mon May 4, 2020, 04:04 AM
May 2020

Bu$h is getting revenge for his brother Jeb and this is the start of it.

Babs Bush held grudges and I think he does as well.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
4. +2
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:03 AM
May 2020

tRump declared himself a "war president" and already his casualties have overtaken the death toll from Iraq and Bush's wars. After this is over, IF it ever is, I do not want to hear anyone in office say "We must look forward, not backward" We need to MAKE the tRump clowns PAY for the destruction of this country. Kushner needs to go to prison for war profiteering. He is stockpiling all the PPE supplies, even those that were already paid for, so he can make money from them. We have medical personnel desperate for supplies, while they are sitting in warehouses all over the country, seized by Kushner and his preppy pals.

Martin Eden

(12,843 posts)
8. Bush is a war criminal who caused a million deaths
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:49 AM
May 2020

He belongs in prison. So does Trump, for lesser crimes, and this current POtuS has very likely already caused more American deaths with his catastrophically bad handling of this pandemic.

Trump is egregiously unfit for the office he holds, menatally and morally. He is appallingly ignorant, a pathological liar, and a malignant narcissist without a shred of human decency. He is also a treasonous tool of Vladimir Putin.

It's difficult to gauge at this point whether Bush or Trump will have done more long term damage. The Middle East is still roiling from the pandora's box Bush opened. Using the national tragedy of 9/11 to launch a war of choice based on lies is IMO the most egregious betrayal of public trust by a president in our nation's history.

Bush had 90% approval in the wake of 9/11, and he used it to manipulate the anger, fear, grief, and patriotism of the American people to enact the preexisting neocon agenda to invade Iraq.

Trump has never had that level of trust and support. It was obvious from the start who and what he is. The betrayal was by voters stupid or deplorable enough to put this monster in office.

And in the long run, Trump (even if he's gone soon and doesn't start a war) may have done more in one term to bring America down than GW Bush. He's done more to destroy the Western alliance and America's role as leader of the free world than the Soviet Union could during a half century of the Cold War.

In any event, the last two Republican presidents have been total disasters, the absolute worst. They both belong in prison, and 40% of the voting public belongs in the nut house.

BigOleDummy

(2,260 posts)
5. As much as
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:23 AM
May 2020

As much as I dislike Mr. Bush there is no way in hell that he was worse than our current chump in chief. I DO think its the height of hypocrisy for ANY repuglican (yes I spelled that the way I wanted) to bemoan "partisanship" in our politics.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
6. While I concur that Shrub was awful and certainly a
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:35 AM
May 2020

precursor of the Criminally Deranged Moron in the WH, he did NOT deliberately set out to ruin every single one of our institutions as CDM has.

While I did not agree at all with ANY of his policies, his main problem was that he was a feckless, uncaring and enabled amateur who let Cheney make the decisions and run the show for the most part. Cheney was - and still is - thoroughly evil.

Their policies left our foreign policy and credibility in shambles. But there were still enough decent and hard-working civil servants so that Prez O did not have to start from zero in literally every agency, as will be the case for Biden.

I hate to disagree about Shrub being worse than 45, but I must.

I certainly agree that he is a hardly an example of bipartisanship and will not cheer him on for that.

betsuni

(25,374 posts)
9. The ones who infuriate me blame the invasion of Iraq on Democrats.
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:54 AM
May 2020

They are not Republicans. They hate Democrats.

Bucky

(53,936 posts)
10. Bush's body count is in the mid six figures at least
Mon May 4, 2020, 07:16 AM
May 2020

Trump is only to blame for the higher than necessary US body count, and of course for the end of the era of American global influence, so yeah, they're very different flavors of horrible

hatrack

(59,566 posts)
12. I found his video infuriating. Not just his mush-mouthed drawling failed Hallmark moment . ..
Mon May 4, 2020, 07:45 AM
May 2020

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. . . It was the graphics.

So here's a flag . . . and here's a cowboy . . . and here's a jet fighter . . . and when do the pictures, which had been in black and white, switch to color? Why, when they go to 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11, featuring Chimpy hugging while literally standing on the bodies of people he couldn't be bothered to protect.

Seriously, fuck that guy and the horse he no longer feels necessary to pretend to ride in on.

Wounded Bear

(58,584 posts)
15. Meh. Doesn't make me sad I voted against him, but it wasn't bad...
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:35 PM
May 2020

typical patriotic pablum, but better than Trump ever did. Trump doesn't even try to fake it.

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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,304 posts)
17. Why people want to rehabilitate an actual war criminal is beyond me. "He isn't Trump" isn't
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:27 PM
May 2020

a good enough reason.

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