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3 charged in killing of store security guard over virus mask (Original Post) Throck May 2020 OP
stochastic terrorism in action unblock May 2020 #1
Um, no. cwydro May 2020 #64
In the first reports it said that the victim had 8 children. Boomerproud May 2020 #2
A woman, her adult son and husband have been charged Budi May 2020 #3
I'm so glad they found out who they were.. and had the woman in custody.. Cha May 2020 #14
Peace Calvin & to his family & friends, may there be a time of peace for them as well. Budi May 2020 #18
Yes, RIP Calvin.. Cha May 2020 #25
The stores usually have security videos nowdays. LisaL May 2020 #19
Oh right.. didn't think about that.. Cha May 2020 #26
They had their SUV on camera - both for the initial no mask/spitting incident muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #20
Mahala for the info, Muriel. Cha May 2020 #27
Ironically, they were not wearing masks, so ID was easy. dixiegrrrrl May 2020 #58
I know, dixiegrrrrl.. it's so senseless.. all of their Cha May 2020 #59
I'm glad they got someone. I hope they have the evidence to put them away. Midnight Writer May 2020 #4
"not so cool"? I'm horrified! BComplex May 2020 #5
That was my thought also. nt Ferrets are Cool May 2020 #34
Premeditated murder captain queeg May 2020 #6
Simply The Effort! ProfessorGAC May 2020 #7
Before this thread gets any further Leith May 2020 #8
Gang related ? Where did you read that? lunasun May 2020 #10
Right? Who's the one jumping to conclusions here? DrToast May 2020 #12
The article says it was over a mask? DrToast May 2020 #11
If it's about a mask qwlauren35 May 2020 #13
OK, before your stereotypes go any further, we'll see what was said at the press conference muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #16
Who knows what the motive is? LeftInTX May 2020 #21
...and why was she asked to leave? DrToast May 2020 #23
The mask LeftInTX May 2020 #24
It seems doubtful the shooters were trumpers however, though who knows. cwydro May 2020 #36
Leaps made in another thread don't justify shit about "gang related", however muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #40
I don't think it had anything to do with gangs. cwydro May 2020 #41
When I read that the suspects had "took off toward the high rise behind FD" LeftInTX May 2020 #45
Yeah, I agree. cwydro May 2020 #46
+100. dware May 2020 #61
Yep. cwydro May 2020 #63
Yep. Their are lots of threads nilesobek May 2020 #65
Not Trumpers, but probably don't like anyone telling them what to do like Trumpers do RhodeIslandOne May 2020 #67
It is probably unrelated to the Lockdown Protests or Trumpists. maxsolomon May 2020 #17
I'm assuming some things because Leith May 2020 #22
Leith, It wasn't a swipe. I looked at the names of those involved and made that assumption too. maxsolomon May 2020 #29
Assumption is the mother of all fuckups. When you assume shit about a victim, triple check it Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #32
It was a racist enough post canuckledragger May 2020 #43
If you are going to propagate disgusting crackpot theories, you better have solid evidence Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #31
Did you say that on the other thread where everyone was claiming it was a trumpist? cwydro May 2020 #71
Gang related? kcr May 2020 #33
Read the articles - if not this one, any number of a gazillion others will do... Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2020 #47
He is dead for doing his job . Sick I don't even get the relationship of the man who killed him lunasun May 2020 #9
Throw away the keys n/t malaise May 2020 #15
The second she spit on him..... druidity33 May 2020 #28
Spitting on someone is battery (physical attack) and assault (fear for life & limb, re Covid). nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #35
Throw away the key JDC May 2020 #30
I believe a gofund me has been set up for the victims family. gibraltar72 May 2020 #37
This is UNACEEPTABLE. Throw their asses under the jail. nt iluvtennis May 2020 #38
As I see it, an essential worker is dead for doing his job. pazzyanne May 2020 #39
Yes. He was protecting workers and customers. He IS a hero. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #42
The repugs seem to love the death penalty. warmfeet May 2020 #44
I think repugs would have no issue at all with the death penalty sarisataka May 2020 #50
Apparently they don't watch the alleged 'fake' news in favor of FUX NEWZ a.k.a. Fox Pravda WyattKansas May 2020 #48
Why do you think Trump would pardon them? sarisataka May 2020 #51
I don't think that. They would think it after Trump and Fox keep repeating the fight back BS. WyattKansas May 2020 #52
I highly doubt they are Trump supporters sarisataka May 2020 #53
I also very much doubt they are Trump supporters Kaleva May 2020 #56
The shooter registered to vote 10/03/2019 Kaleva May 2020 #62
Good detective work! LeftInTX May 2020 #66
The step-father registered in 2012. Kaleva May 2020 #68
Do we know if they watched Fox ? Kaleva May 2020 #54
Ummm...no LeftInTX May 2020 #55
I suspect the 23 y/o executed the security guard because he, in his view, dissed his mother Kaleva May 2020 #49
In the BACK of the head? The shooter is a real chickenshit. SharonAnn May 2020 #70
Just read somewhere else about a go fund me . He leaves 8 children and a wife all who must be lunasun May 2020 #57
Such an infuriating and sad story! Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #60
Anyone notice that it was only the 44 y/o man who was charged for not wearing a mask? Kaleva May 2020 #69

unblock

(52,195 posts)
1. stochastic terrorism in action
Mon May 4, 2020, 04:47 PM
May 2020

random acts of violence happen all the time, but this is exactly the sort of thing you can reasonably expect to happen, and to happen more often, when political leaders spew garbage about how regulations designed to keep people healthy is somehow an act of tyranny that calls for a "2nd amendment solution".

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
3. A woman, her adult son and husband have been charged
Mon May 4, 2020, 04:51 PM
May 2020


DETROIT (AP) — A woman, her adult son and husband have been charged in the fatal shooting of a security guard who refused to let her daughter enter a Family Dollar in Michigan because she wasn't wearing a face mask to protect against transmission of the coronavirus.

Calvin Munerlyn was shot Friday at the store just north of downtown Flint a short time after telling Sharmel Teague’s daughter she had to leave because she lacked a mask, according to Genesee County Prosecutor David Leyton.

Teague, 45, argued with Munerlyn, 43, before leaving. Two men later came to the store.

Teague; her husband, Larry Teague, 44; and Ramonyea Bishop, 23; are charged with first-degree premeditated murder and gun charges.

Larry Teague also is charged with violating Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's executive order mandating that all customers and employees must wear face coverings inside grocery stores, Leyton said.

Witnesses identified Bishop as the man who shot Munerlyn in the back of the head, Leyton said.

Sharmel Teague has been arrested. Police were looking for her husband and son.

No information has been released about the daughter, who has not been charged in the shooting.
More..

Cha

(297,136 posts)
14. I'm so glad they found out who they were.. and had the woman in custody..
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:34 PM
May 2020

I wonder how they found out who they were? Their stupid burns red hot..

Thank you for more information on it, Budi.

Calvin Munerlyn

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
18. Peace Calvin & to his family & friends, may there be a time of peace for them as well.
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:38 PM
May 2020

What a stupid thing to do.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,301 posts)
20. They had their SUV on camera - both for the initial no mask/spitting incident
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:40 PM
May 2020

and when the father and son came back with a gun - see #16.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
58. Ironically, they were not wearing masks, so ID was easy.
Mon May 4, 2020, 09:49 PM
May 2020


Weird, huh?

What a horrible senseless thing to happen.

Cha

(297,136 posts)
59. I know, dixiegrrrrl.. it's so senseless.. all of their
Mon May 4, 2020, 09:58 PM
May 2020

lives ruined forever because of hot headed gun owners, and not wanting to wear a mask.. to help Not spreading the deadly virus. That affects Everybody.

So sorry for the security guard, Calvin Munerlyln and his family

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
4. I'm glad they got someone. I hope they have the evidence to put them away.
Mon May 4, 2020, 04:53 PM
May 2020

If you would kill someone over something as petty as this, you don't belong in society.

BComplex

(8,029 posts)
5. "not so cool"? I'm horrified!
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:10 PM
May 2020

As a person whose husband has to work serving the public every day, this scares me to death.

captain queeg

(10,162 posts)
6. Premeditated murder
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:11 PM
May 2020

Let those fuckwads rot in prison.

Anyone want to bet what what the orange traitor will say? Good people, very sad.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
7. Simply The Effort!
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:24 PM
May 2020

Got yelled at for no mask and the reaction is plot a revenge murder.
And then carry it out!
How much easier it would have been to do nothing!
Now a guy is dead because he did his job and three people are probably jail bound forever.
Thin skins.

Leith

(7,808 posts)
8. Before this thread gets any further
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:25 PM
May 2020

This horrible incident had nothing to do with the White House usurper as some people claimed in another thread.

It will most likely be gang related or a murder of someone who pissed the perps off.

We have literally thousands of reasons to dislike agent orange, but this is not one of them.



muriel_volestrangler

(101,301 posts)
16. OK, before your stereotypes go any further, we'll see what was said at the press conference
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:37 PM
May 2020
Sharmel Teague and Munerlyn got into an argument about the policy. Leyton said Sharmel Teague spit at Munerlyn, who then ordered her to leave the store and told the cashier to refuse service to her.

Surveillance video showed Teague and her daughter leaving the store in a red GMC Envoy and enter the nearby River Village Apartments complex. Minutes later, cell phone records show Sharmel Teague made a phone call to Larry Teague, Leyton said.

About 20 minutes after Sharmel and her daughter left the store, Leyton said Larry Teague and Bishop drove the same GMC Envoy back to the store.

Leyton said surveillance video shows Larry Teague and Bishop enter the store and start an argument with Munerlyn. Witnesses reported hearing the suspects ask Munerlyn who had disrespected his wife.

During the altercation, Leyton said Bishop pulled out a handgun and shot 43-year-old Munerlyn in the head. He was rushed to Hurley Medical Center, where he died later Friday.

https://www.abc12.com/content/news/3-charged-with-murder-of-Family-Dollar-security-guard-over-face-mask-dispute-570178991.html

But sure, say the security guard was likely connected with a gang. That always helps a murdered black man.

LeftInTX

(25,235 posts)
21. Who knows what the motive is?
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:50 PM
May 2020

Sounds like she was pissed because she was asked to leave?
The mask is probably secondary.
I have no idea whether this store had a security guard in the past

LeftInTX

(25,235 posts)
24. The mask
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:56 PM
May 2020

But she was obviously pissed that she had to leave.

I get the feeling, the same thing would have happened if she had been asked to leave for another reason.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
36. It seems doubtful the shooters were trumpers however, though who knows.
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:46 PM
May 2020

There were a lot of assumptions made in that thread, which I knew would be proved wrong.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,301 posts)
40. Leaps made in another thread don't justify shit about "gang related", however
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:52 PM
May 2020

especially when the prosecutor has already said it was about not wearing a mask.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
41. I don't think it had anything to do with gangs.
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:53 PM
May 2020

But I think it had a lot to do with some asshole idea about being “dissed.”

LeftInTX

(25,235 posts)
45. When I read that the suspects had "took off toward the high rise behind FD"
Mon May 4, 2020, 07:47 PM
May 2020

I figured they weren't Trumpers and they weren't carrying rifles

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
46. Yeah, I agree.
Mon May 4, 2020, 07:56 PM
May 2020

This was pretty obvious except for those who think everyone who’s an asshole is a trumper.

Unfortunately, assholes come in all colors and political persuasions.

dware

(12,363 posts)
61. +100.
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:10 PM
May 2020

I had a feeling that those that were automatically blaming the protesters with firearms and linking it to the Mango Menace were going to end up with egg on their faces, seems I was proven right.

Seems to be a lot of that going around here lately along with some threads that chill me to the bone for wanting violence on the protesters at the Michigan State Capitol.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
63. Yep.
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:13 PM
May 2020

I had a feeling how this would turn out.

People just love to jump to conclusions.

We’ll hear no more about this particularly crime here, I would imagine.

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
65. Yep. Their are lots of threads
Tue May 5, 2020, 01:53 PM
May 2020

filled with misinformation, disinformation, false indignation, false accusations, hyperbole, hysteria, excessive profanity with direct threats of violence and/or glorifying the denial of civil rights.

This all happens before even a scintilla of facts are presented.

Usually, these threads can be identified by the scurrilous nature of the thread titles.

I'm pretty far from perfect but we can do better than this. It's become a joke all over the internet.

Maybe we should start alerting on some of this stuff.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
67. Not Trumpers, but probably don't like anyone telling them what to do like Trumpers do
Tue May 5, 2020, 02:45 PM
May 2020

Or even speaking to them perhaps. People don't need to be political to be completely hateful, self-centered, arrogant assholes.

maxsolomon

(33,298 posts)
17. It is probably unrelated to the Lockdown Protests or Trumpists.
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:38 PM
May 2020

It may just have been a "you disrespected my wife" shooting. The type of shit that humans are prone to when they have easy access to semi-automatic firearms.

I think you're assuming some things because the victim &/or perps are African-American?

Leith

(7,808 posts)
22. I'm assuming some things because
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:53 PM
May 2020

I was born and raised in Flint MI and lived half my adult life there. I attended the university across the street. I'm familiar with the neighborhood.

You seem to have a correct guess with the

"you disrespected my wife" shooting. The type of shit that humans are prone to when they have easy access to semi-automatic firearms.


You did NOT make a correct with a swipe that I'm racist.



maxsolomon

(33,298 posts)
29. Leith, It wasn't a swipe. I looked at the names of those involved and made that assumption too.
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:11 PM
May 2020

Also I looked at the photo of the mourners. I'm assuming Stochastic Terror isn't involved because black people generally aren't Trumpists.

If you're a racist, I am too.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
32. Assumption is the mother of all fuckups. When you assume shit about a victim, triple check it
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:36 PM
May 2020

... for evidence.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
31. If you are going to propagate disgusting crackpot theories, you better have solid evidence
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:34 PM
May 2020

Shitty speculation against a murder victim does not help anybody.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You have presented none, nada, zip, zero, zilch.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
9. He is dead for doing his job . Sick I don't even get the relationship of the man who killed him
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:27 PM
May 2020

RIP Calvin Munerlyn

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
28. The second she spit on him.....
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:05 PM
May 2020

he should have maced her and cuffed her. Off to jail. That's fucking assault in this day and age. Period.

pazzyanne

(6,547 posts)
39. As I see it, an essential worker is dead for doing his job.
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:49 PM
May 2020

He was murdered by 3 people connected to the spitting/ mask incident.

Sincere condolences to the family of the security guard. Rest in peace for the victim, and Hugs an prayers for his family members.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
44. The repugs seem to love the death penalty.
Mon May 4, 2020, 07:44 PM
May 2020

What say you repugs? Is it to be life, or is it to be death? Come on now, please don't be so shy.

sarisataka

(18,598 posts)
50. I think repugs would have no issue at all with the death penalty
Mon May 4, 2020, 09:19 PM
May 2020

and happily send all three suspects to death row. Do you believe they would not support that?

IME support for the death penalty shows up in many surprising places.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
48. Apparently they don't watch the alleged 'fake' news in favor of FUX NEWZ a.k.a. Fox Pravda
Mon May 4, 2020, 08:09 PM
May 2020

If they did, they would know that this is not a good time at all to find themselves being thrown in jail and going to prison.

However, I am sure they will be the first to scream bloody murder for not being protected from COVID-19. Maybe they think Fat Daddy Trump will pardon them.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
49. I suspect the 23 y/o executed the security guard because he, in his view, dissed his mother
Mon May 4, 2020, 08:12 PM
May 2020

The young man went to the store armed and shot the security guard in the back of the head.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
57. Just read somewhere else about a go fund me . He leaves 8 children and a wife all who must be
Mon May 4, 2020, 09:41 PM
May 2020

devastated by his violent death

https://www.gofundme.com/f/donations-for-duper?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link-tip&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&fbclid=IwAR2l4BIkE6psbfu2BWy0SgqV3SSxb1TCaqMeNzhvK5FYXguJVsvIw-eM08A

Help lay Super Duper to rest. He was a father, a husband, a friend, a protector, & a provider.

“When I found out what happened to him, it really broke my heart because I know what kind of person he was,” Police Commissioner Bryant Noelden said at the press conference. He added that Munerlyn would sometimes join dance classes with elderly residents at a senior housing facility in their community.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
69. Anyone notice that it was only the 44 y/o man who was charged for not wearing a mask?
Tue May 5, 2020, 03:02 PM
May 2020

The mother and 23 y/o shooter weren't charged which leads me to believe they were wearing one.

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