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spanone

(135,765 posts)
Tue May 5, 2020, 07:56 AM May 2020

SEVENTY THOUSAND DEAD AMERICANS.

SEVENTY

THOUSAND

DEAD

AMERICANS.


AND STILL NO PLAN.


Trump cheers on governors as they ignore White House guidelines in race to reopen

States across the country are moving swiftly to reopen their economies despite failing to achieve benchmarks laid out by the White House for when social distancing restrictions could be eased to ensure the public’s safety during the coronavirus pandemic.

These governors’ biggest cheerleader is President Trump.

A slew of states — such as Texas, Indiana, Colorado and Florida — have pushed forward with relaxing social distancing guidelines even as the number of people testing positive in many states has increased in recent weeks and testing continues to lag behind. White House recommendations released last month encouraged states to wait to see a decline in cases over a two-week period, as well as having robust testing in place for front-line workers before entering “Phase One” of a gradual comeback.

But Trump and some of his aides have backed away from their own guidelines, opting instead to hail the broad economic reopening that health experts say has started too quickly. The dichotomy comes as the White House also tried to distance itself from a draft federal government report predicting an explosion of new coronavirus cases and 3,000 daily deaths by June 1.

--PAYWALL--https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-cheers-on-governors-as-they-ignore-white-house-coronovirus-guidelines-in-race-to-reopen/2020/05/04/bedc6116-8e18-11ea-a0bc-4e9ad4866d21_story.html


The price of reopening the economy: TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN LIVES

(CNN)President Donald Trump now knows the price of the haunting bargain required to reopen the country -- tens of thousands more lives in a pandemic that is getting worse not better.

It's one he now appears ready to pay, if not explain to the American people, at a moment of national trial that his administration has constantly underplayed.

Depressing new death toll projections and infection data on Monday dashed the optimism stirred by more than half the country taking various steps to reopen an economy that is vital to Trump's reelection hopes and has shed more than 30 million jobs. Stay-at-home orders slowed the virus and flattened the curve in hotspots like New York and California, but they have so far failed to halt its broader advance, leaving the nation stuck on a grim plateau of about 30,000 new cases a day for nearly a month.

New evidence of the likely terrible future toll of Covid-19 came on a day when Trump stayed out of sight -- his wild briefings that hurt his political prospects now paused -- meaning he could not be questioned on his enthusiasm for state openings in the light of new evidence.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-economy-models/index.html
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SEVENTY THOUSAND DEAD AMERICANS. (Original Post) spanone May 2020 OP
In Indiana ... Delphinus May 2020 #1
Insane. spanone May 2020 #2
a CONTROL group? dhill926 May 2020 #19
Wasn't Las Vegas also offered up as a control group? Do people really want to be considered tblue37 May 2020 #21
"TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN LIVES" Botany May 2020 #3
And yet... no newspaper, no cable news outlet are calling for Zoonart May 2020 #4
A recent Boston Globe Op-Ed called for his resignation TheRickles May 2020 #8
Thank for pointing that out. Zoonart May 2020 #9
Don the criminally negligent Con malaise May 2020 #5
yet the republicans appear absolutely fine with him.... spanone May 2020 #6
If Pious Pence and Don the Criminal Ohiogal May 2020 #7
In the checkout line at the grocery yesterday, all masked up........... jaxexpat May 2020 #10
I kind of worry about the maskless people myself. cayugafalls May 2020 #16
And the virus mutates now BSdetect May 2020 #11
Thanks for that. spanone May 2020 #13
The article is talking about the virus we have been dealing with for months. cayugafalls May 2020 #15
Dude campaigned on taking America backwards IronLionZion May 2020 #12
Democrats will soon be the majority in the country because repubs are busy committing notdarkyet May 2020 #14
For sadists such as Trump (and the GOP), no body count is too high dlk May 2020 #17
In an ironic twist, this is about exactly the margin which pushed Old Yeller over the top... Hugin May 2020 #18
Isn't it extremely odd that these models didn't come out a couple days earlier? Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #20

Delphinus

(11,823 posts)
1. In Indiana ...
Tue May 5, 2020, 08:05 AM
May 2020

Churches used as a control group

[link:https://journalgazette.net/news/local/20200505/churches-used-as-control-group|https://journalgazette.net/news/local/20200505/churches-used-as-control-group
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Churches used as control group
Holcomb ending worship restrictions Friday
NIKI KELLY | The Journal Gazette
INDIANAPOLIS – State officials addressed some progress in testing and government services Monday while also explaining why worship services don't have to follow gathering limitations.

Under the governor's new Back on Track plan, gatherings are limited to 25 throughout most of the state now, up from 10 people. But starting Friday, churches can meet for worship and other events with no limitations on the number of people attending.

“We just thought a good place to start or have a control group, would be places of worship ... ,” Gov. Eric Holcomb said. “But I did say we needed those church leaders to be responsible for their congregations. We can prove we can do this, and I think we'll see just that.”

tblue37

(65,206 posts)
21. Wasn't Las Vegas also offered up as a control group? Do people really want to be considered
Tue May 5, 2020, 11:36 AM
May 2020

that expendable?

Botany

(70,422 posts)
3. "TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN LIVES"
Tue May 5, 2020, 08:08 AM
May 2020

No, it will be hundreds of thousands of lives and the economy will crash and burn.

Trump has got to go.

Zoonart

(11,825 posts)
4. And yet... no newspaper, no cable news outlet are calling for
Tue May 5, 2020, 08:10 AM
May 2020

the removal of this *resident. WHY? really WHY?

I can't get my head around this.

Zoonart

(11,825 posts)
9. Thank for pointing that out.
Tue May 5, 2020, 09:32 AM
May 2020

Still... the journalistic response to all of this has been both-siderish and flat footed.

Ohiogal

(31,876 posts)
7. If Pious Pence and Don the Criminal
Tue May 5, 2020, 08:16 AM
May 2020

Are so loving this, they should both go to a church service in Indiana and mingle with hundreds of mask-less worshipers.

jaxexpat

(6,786 posts)
10. In the checkout line at the grocery yesterday, all masked up...........
Tue May 5, 2020, 09:47 AM
May 2020

, among numerous signs regarding 6 feet spacing, my wife and I get crowded by a couple of maskless inbreeds glaring ominously. May not be too long before mask vs maskless assault is common.
The future Faux news, "mask on mask crime up in city, man bites dog, children playing happily", "folks are beginning to realize that masked people are a threat to our freedom to prosper", "we at Faux news take no side on this obvious infringement of our right to live sarcastically".

cayugafalls

(5,639 posts)
16. I kind of worry about the maskless people myself.
Tue May 5, 2020, 10:39 AM
May 2020

I think you are right with your prediction. We will see mask vs maskless assaults. Especially, if the news media portrays masked people as a threat like you mentioned.

I guess we just have to steel ourselves to being outliers for the foreseeable future.

I know that I will be wearing a mask until I feel safe enough or there is a vaccine. So, I'll just have to be prepared to glare back at them...

cayugafalls

(5,639 posts)
15. The article is talking about the virus we have been dealing with for months.
Tue May 5, 2020, 10:33 AM
May 2020

Seems like they are just now releasing their report.

From the report;

Italy was one of the first countries to see the new virus in the last week of February, almost at the same time that the original strain appeared. Washington was among the first states to get hit with the original strain in late February, but by March 15 the mutated strain dominated. New York was hit by the original virus around March 15, but within days the mutant strain took over. The team did not report results for California.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
12. Dude campaigned on taking America backwards
Tue May 5, 2020, 10:04 AM
May 2020

Everyone made their own incorrect assumptions on what "Make America Great Again" meant.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
14. Democrats will soon be the majority in the country because repubs are busy committing
Tue May 5, 2020, 10:26 AM
May 2020

Viral suicide. Hope they do a good job.

dlk

(11,496 posts)
17. For sadists such as Trump (and the GOP), no body count is too high
Tue May 5, 2020, 10:41 AM
May 2020

As long as they can implement their extremist agenda, the death toll is superfluous.

Hugin

(32,989 posts)
18. In an ironic twist, this is about exactly the margin which pushed Old Yeller over the top...
Tue May 5, 2020, 10:45 AM
May 2020

in the 2016 Electoral College coup.

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