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hurl

(938 posts)
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:29 PM May 2020

Missouri's Jewish Leaders to GOP: Our Faith Requires Absentee Voting in Pandemic

From the article:

In Missouri, voting-by-mail is only permitted for those who offer a valid reason for it. Maybe they’re out of town or sick, but it’s not automatic.

Given the pandemic, you would think there would be a push to mail ballots to everyone for November’s election, but this is a state where Republicans dominate the legislature as well as the governor’s office. They sure as hell don’t want more people voting. When people vote, Republicans lose. They love voter suppression.

But Republicans also claim to love religious freedom…
...
It’s a brilliant plan. Every other religious institution should follow suit. There’s no reason Catholics, Satanists, Muslims, progressive Christians, etc. can’t do the same thing and make voting all about practicing their faith. Either force Republicans to pass absentee voting for everyone or make them say they don’t give a damn about anyone else’s religious beliefs.
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More:
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/05/05/missouris-jewish-leaders-to-gop-our-faith-requires-absentee-voting-in-pandemic/

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Missouri's Jewish Leaders to GOP: Our Faith Requires Absentee Voting in Pandemic (Original Post) hurl May 2020 OP
Recommended Mike 03 May 2020 #1
Excellent argument. JudyM May 2020 #2
Post removed Post removed May 2020 #3
Is this somehow relevant to the discussion, or just a casual slap? Hekate May 2020 #4
The original op concerns the Jewish Faith. So does my comment. Thanks for your input... abqtommy May 2020 #6
Faith (any faith) is definitely NOT a virtue IMO hurl May 2020 #8
I believe in the separation of church and state. What I did in my original comment was attempt to abqtommy May 2020 #9
No thanks. elleng May 2020 #10
Find some folks in each "reason required" state to sue Jake Stern May 2020 #5
k and R riversedge May 2020 #7
Interesting argument. TomSlick May 2020 #11
Yeah religious freedom doesn't matter for non-Christian religions IronLionZion May 2020 #12
"You shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord." Leviticus 19 struggle4progress May 2020 #13

Response to hurl (Original post)

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
4. Is this somehow relevant to the discussion, or just a casual slap?
Tue May 5, 2020, 06:02 PM
May 2020

Orthodox Judaism is a minority of a Minority...

hurl

(938 posts)
8. Faith (any faith) is definitely NOT a virtue IMO
Tue May 5, 2020, 07:38 PM
May 2020

I suspect you're not wrong about your claim, although not being an Orthodox Jew, I don't know or even care about all their errors. Those interested can explore "Shelo Asani Isha" to decide for themselves.

For me, though, the point of the article wasn't the content of the Orthodox Jewish faith, but rather on using "sincerely held belief" claims to force Republicans into a dilemma: Either they act against their own interests or once again have their hypocrisy on evangical Christian privilege laid bare.

That, of course, does nothing to discount your point.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
9. I believe in the separation of church and state. What I did in my original comment was attempt to
Tue May 5, 2020, 08:10 PM
May 2020

portray what is to me is clear hypocrisy that is present in all faiths. So I don't think that any faith should
be given a pass for any reason. I am aware of the orthodox "thankful that I'm a man" prayer, having read and heard about it all my life (I'm 71) but I'd have to dig to find out about other sincerely held
orthodox beliefs and I wouldn't support those either... And I'm not jumping on the Jews. My second
ex-wife was a Jewish convert due to the fact that her father was the source of her Jewish heritage and
not her mother... And no, the Jewish bit didn't enter into our divorce at all...

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
5. Find some folks in each "reason required" state to sue
Tue May 5, 2020, 06:37 PM
May 2020

based on the claim that it violates their sincerely held religious beliefs that life is sacred and must not be unduly jeopardized by voting in person during a pandemic.

TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
11. Interesting argument.
Tue May 5, 2020, 08:32 PM
May 2020

Any other faith could make a similar argument.

I will be interested to hear the response of the religious right. Does sincerely held religious belief trump everything else or doesn't it?

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
12. Yeah religious freedom doesn't matter for non-Christian religions
Tue May 5, 2020, 08:33 PM
May 2020

when you're dealing with bible thumping conservatives who are deeply oppressed by other people's existence

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
13. "You shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord." Leviticus 19
Tue May 5, 2020, 08:34 PM
May 2020
Businesses reopen in Missouri as state records jump in virus cases
Robert Patrick , Erin Heffernan , Joel Currier , Kurt Erickson 8 hrs ago

JEFFERSON CITY — Gov. Mike Parson promoted the end of his statewide stay-at-home order Monday by visiting a handful of businesses, as the state recorded its largest single-day jump in COVID-19 cases.

Parson stayed clear of coronavirus hot spots Monday and headed to the southwest part of the state, touring a thrift store and an electrical contractor in Joplin.

He later stopped at Bass Pro Shops and a hospital in Springfield before returning to the Capitol for his daily coronavirus briefing.

“We believe we are on the downside of this virus,” Parson said ...

https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/coronavirus/businesses-reopen-in-missouri-as-state-records-jump-in-virus-cases/article_3cbacb74-2313-5b32-bff7-4c3dcbd04055.html
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