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I guess I'm suspicious, maybe even paranoid, but do you think that maybe Tara Reade is being paid by the Repubs to bring these charges against Joe?
I understand she's out of work and she's probably harboring a grudge against him for firing her.
Just sayin'.
Cha
(297,026 posts)told multiple stories about why she left.. that was just one of them.
So Please don't spread that propaganda.
Hekate
(90,616 posts)Sorry I didn't catch that detail on the first pass
Cha
(297,026 posts)always easy to keep them straight. You have to really study all the evidence.
Not just go with a damn soundbyte.
webcommuter
(1 post)Tara Reade, aka Alexandra McCabe, and others is not the victim she claims to be. The two links below are just the beginning of the person that hides behind the coquettish image she has pumped into the mainstream media over the past month!
https://medium.com/@eddiekrassenstein/biden-accuser-tara-reade-allegedly-stole-from-a-non-profit-organization-e276cac68a2b
https://medium.com/@eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460
Cha
(297,026 posts)the links to work..
I've read those articles but it's always good to have the links at hand for future reference if need be..
https://medium.com/eddiekrassenstein/biden-accuser-tara-reade-allegedly-stole-from-a-non-profit-organization-e276cac68a2b
https://medium.com/eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460
JI7
(89,244 posts)that includes Republicans also .
liberalla
(9,234 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Beakybird
(3,332 posts)And that stylistically, her Twitter writing style was worlds apart from her writing style on other platforms. She was an English major.
DFW
(54,325 posts)Here are a couple of tips on how to spot Russian trolls who are not 100% fluent in English
1.) Articles--Russian doesn't have them
No "a" or "the." They just don't exist in Slavic languages. Russians have an extremely difficult time learning when to use them, and when not to, because in their own language, they never experienced them. That is probably why "The Donald" came to be so iconic an expression. Czech, like Russian, has no articles, so Ivana Trump at first didn't grasp that that was not how we referred to the first names of our spouses.
2.) Present tense of the verb "to be"
Russian doesn't have that, either. In Russian, if you want to say "Republicans are idiots," you just say the equivalent of "Republicans--idiots." Russian DOES have the verb "to be" in the future and past tenses, so they leave it out less often than articles, which are totally foreign to them, but they sometimes forget.
3.) Russian is a declined language
That means that many things that we express with prepositions (Republican trolls--I'll explain what they are some other time), Russian expresses by changing or adding on the ends of nouns, including names. Where an English-speaking person would say "basket full of goodies," a Russian would say "basket full goodies," and change the ending of "goodies." Where we would say "the name of Vladimir Putin," a Russian would say "name Vladimira Putina." Where we would say "the streets of Moskva (Moscow)," A Russian would say "streets Moskvy (no 'the,' remember)."
Russian does have its own prepositions, but since their language is declined with six different cases, there are many instances where we would use them and they would not.
These are the main things to look for when trying to spot Russian trolls. It isn't foolproof because Republicanese is full of oddball grammar not seen in English, too, and most Republicans are no more fluent in Russian than they are in quantum physics. But Russian does have its (Republicanese: it's) particular quirks, and since far from all of their hired trolls have a PhD in English, they do often make the errors cited above. So watch for them, and then tell the next one you spot either Иди домой (go home) or Иди к чёрту (go to hell) and you don't really care which.
ms liberty
(8,571 posts)From speaking to people, reading and seeing conversations on the teevee, and I grew up in a city that was very much a melting pot. I never studied a slavic language though, so I am not at all familiar with the rules. You explained it in a way that allowed me to recognize what I did know and expanded my understanding of it at the same time. Clear, concise, well written and very helpful, at least to me lol...Thanks!
DFW
(54,325 posts)Often, when we hear native speakers of other languages make errors speaking English, we will recognize mistakes, but not always understand what is behind those mistakes. What you hear (or read) coming through is the influence of their own native languages on what they are trying to express in English (or whatever language it is they are trying to speak).
With us, it's just the same when we try to speak or write other languages Besides that fact that many Americans have a REALLY hard time getting rid of their accent, many have a hard time getting rid of their syntax, too. If an English-speaker wants to tell a German, "I will see you tomorrow," the exact words in English word order would be, "ich werde sehen dich morgen." Even if your accent is perfect, a German will immediately recognize you as a foreigner, because the German word order would be, "ich werde dich morgen sehen."
I live in a country that borders on nine others, and travel frequently (when there's no Corona problem, anyway!) to other nearby countries. I speak nine European languages because I'd be an idiot if I were in these countries every week for work for over 40 years without learning their languages. It would be an insult, frankly, to the people I work with. I know how difficult it is to REALLY get a language down to where you DON'T make the telltale mistakes, so I have a decent idea of how to explain telltale details that you might notice, but not completely understand WHY you noticed it.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)canetoad
(17,148 posts)Maybe not all republicans, but certainly someone with a vested interest in his re-election (looking at you, Parscale).
I'd even go so far to say that they have pored over lists of ex-Biden staffers, selected any that are fruit-loops with financial problems and dangled a bribe.
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)While other liars may be attention-seekers or mentally ill, I think Reade lies when she needs or wants money
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)On another message board, we were getting troll posts about Tara Reade and taunts about believing women who bring sexual assault allegations. Then Reade canceled out on her Fox interview, and suddenly poof! No more Reade posts. I don't think they've gone away forever, but keep that little factual tidbit handy, that Reade wouldn't or couldn't even sit for a Fox interview. Christine Blasey Ford, on the other hand, sat for sworn testimony before a hostile Senate Committee. Rating the relative credibility of two persons couldn't be easier.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)of financial gain, rather than actual pay. The Bill Clinton accusers of old were all wooed and manipulated, catapulted in at least one case, by RW operatives, and they all were eventually able to get payoffs or, more commonly, monetize their notoriety for a while.
My take is of an unfortunately attractive, profoundly dishonest flake (personality disorder?) who may manage to believe what she wants to, albeit after she decides what that'll be. But in any case, a lifelong victim who causes trouble for others wherever she goes.
My guess is whoever wooed her into lying about Biden probably could have managed it over a quick lunch, no need to send in a team to "befriend" and work on her.