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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBox Scores Show Trump Lied His Ass Off About Being a High School Baseball Legend
Zoonart
(11,832 posts)Who is surprised?
MiniMe
(21,709 posts)SouthernCal_Dem
(852 posts)You dont hit .138 for some podunk, cold-weather high school playing the worst competition you could possibly imagine, Law said. Its absolutely laughable. He hit .138he couldnt fucking hit, thats pretty clear.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Buck thirty eight! Just no end to his Bullshit.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Donnie 2 Scoops could not hit the curve.
Or the change.
Or the slider.
Or the fastball.
Probably not the Eephus either...
0.138?
That's not even spitting distance of the Mendoza line for chrissakes!
SergeStorms
(19,186 posts)not swing at all, and hit better than .138. He didn't play a skill position, he couldn't hit, we used to call those guys "splinter asses" from riding the bench so much.
But once again, Trump is a legend in his own mind.
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)...over three seasons & PINO played in all of them:
In the other 72 games, he would have to hit .320 to have an average of .300 for his HS career.
High schoolers who hit .300 don't go to the major leagues, if they're not flame throwing pitchers.
Guys who attract scouts from small high schools are hitting .450, with power. At least.
We had a kid from this town about 15 years ago that hit .525 for his HS career.
He never made it past a reserve in AA.
And, at the HS level, really good hitters don't have randomly chosen games where they're 4 for 29.
A bad 2 weeks for those kids is 9 for 29, instead of 11 or 12.
Of course, he made this whole thing up.
Like me, as a very good basketball player I could have played in the NBA, except for that 5'7" thing. Yeah except for that!!! LOL! Geez, in junior year (I left after 3 years to go to college) I had only three schools ever talk to me! It was clearly, yeah he can play and can jump, but he's only 5-7. Pass!
And I'll bet a grand right now I was a WAY better bball player than he was a hitter!
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)First stringers would bat on average 2-3 times in a 7-inning HS game. 2 is a minimum, you have 21 outs and 9 starters.
Let's say there's 15 games/season, that's a guess but probably not far off.
So, 3 seasons, that's 45 games, 2-3 times a game would be 90-135 AB's.
But he batted 29 times? That pretty much tells you that he was at best a 2nd string player, quite possibly 3rd string.
Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)Source: DT
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)And then in games where they were either ahead or behind by 10 or more runs, they'd let take him go in and take a few hacks at it in the 7th inning (while the team busted up in the dugout).
sop
(10,100 posts)edhopper
(33,479 posts)29 at bats in 3 years???
rsdsharp
(9,137 posts)a quarter of the games reported with box scores in the area papers. In those games he sucked at the plate, but apparently played a decent first base, defensively.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)But in my defense, my GAF level is extremely low ATM ...
Mosby
(16,259 posts)In the pros its a position for a big hitter who sucks at fielding.
rsdsharp
(9,137 posts)But there are many great fielding first basemen who didnt hit for great power.
Joey Votto
Todd Helton
Keith Hernandez
Mark Grace
John Olerud
Don Mattingly
Vic Power
High Pockets Kelly
Even some of the boomers were good with the glove
Anthony Rizzo
Paul Goldschmidt
Gil Hodges
Albert Pujols
Eddie Murray
Raphael Palmero
edhopper
(33,479 posts)Derek Jeter hit .508 in High School.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)They made Donald hit from home plate instead of second base and they wouldn't let him use a tee. It was so unfair!
leftieNanner
(15,062 posts)is the same one who "posted" the "fake" birth announcement for Barack Obama.
gibraltar72
(7,498 posts)Best player in New York?
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)duforsure
(11,884 posts)But coming from a serial liar you knew it was just another claim he could never back up. He's been doing that type of stuff with claims and accusations with himself and others for decades, and is still doing that now. If he claims something, think the opposite because he rarely tells the truth.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)1) Self-discipline
2) An eagerness to learn from others
3) The ability to admit your own mistakes and to learn from them
4) Patience
5) Hard, seemingly unceasing work that is often painful
Absolutely none of which Trump has the capacity for in the least.
Which is why he sucks at literally everything.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,587 posts)The whole rather long but quite interesting article is here: https://slate.com/culture/2020/05/donald-trump-baseball-high-school-nyma.html
The first mention of Trump in an NYMA baseball story came during his sophomore year in 1962. Don Trump made some fine fielding plays for Coach Ralph Petrillos NYMA club, the final line of the story reads. In a 41 loss to Cheshire, Trump played first base, hit sixth, and went 0 for 3. I found three total box scores from his sophomore year. In those games, he went 1 for 10 at the plate.
His junior year, Trump went 2 for 10 in the three game stories I found in the archives. In Trumps senior season, I couldnt find much of any NYMA baseball coverage in the Evening News. But the Poughkeepsie Journal and Journal News had him hitting 1 for 9 in three games.
Combined, the nine box scores I unearthed give Trump a 4 for 29 batting record in his sophomore, junior, and senior seasons, with three runs batted in and a single run scored. Trumps batting average in those nine games: an underwhelming .138. (I found one additional mention of a hit and another of a hitless game in games that didnt have box scores.)
But years later Trump tried to "refresh" a teammate's memory:
The bases were loaded, I told him. We were losing by three. You hit the ball just over the third basemans head. Neither the third baseman nor the left fielder could get to the ball in time. All four of our runs came in; we won the game.
No, he [Trump] said. Thats not the way it happened. I want you to remember this: I hit the ball out of the ballpark! Remember that. I hit it out of the ballpark!
Ballpark? I thought. We were talking about a high school practice field. There was no park to hit a ball out of. And anyway, his hit was a blooper the fielders misplayed.
Typical Trump.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)I wonder because I would think that coming up with so many lies and keeping track of them over all those years would make a person's head ache to high heaven. Just think of the ones we know of. They give me a headache and I don't have to CYA about any of them.
leftieNanner
(15,062 posts)But I don't think he even tries to keep track of his lies. He just makes up new ones and if anyone tries to call him out, he tells them they are nasty and changes the subject.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,413 posts)leftieNanner
(15,062 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,413 posts)leftieNanner
(15,062 posts)maxrandb
(15,295 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)Count me as not surprised at all.
Edit: He didn't strike me as very athletic from old pics of him either. Not overweight like now, but he still looked "soft" to me.
kairos12
(12,842 posts)for an ass cheese like Chump ever to be good at. It requires way too much practice and discipline.
Although, I wish there was a high school player with Ty Cobb mentality at that time he would have come at him spikes high.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)PCIntern
(25,479 posts)OK, I played interscholastic tennis for my high school team. Either second singles or third singles was my position for three years on the team. I lost many more matches than I won. If I went public and stated that I was number one singles championship player in a variety of tournaments at least 300 people whom I know would come out of the woodwork and say thats a lie.
I mean, how can you lie about athletics when not only is it a matter of record within the school, but everybody on the team and everybody who watched the team is fully aware of how well or poorly you played?
Oh and by the way I did win Wimbledon one year I cant remember which year it was but I won it and I have the trophy somewhere in my attic to prove it.
leftieNanner
(15,062 posts)6-0, 6-0, 6-0
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)There are many video clips of him contradicting himself all over the place. Reporters have called him out on lots of things including his COVID statements that he claims he never said.
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,664 posts)Im tired of it all ready.
Thanks mr. .138%
bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)A legend in his own mind, always the greatest show on earth.
Botany
(70,447 posts)Celerity
(43,107 posts)Willie McCovey was already a 21yo major league player when Trump had just turned 13!!!!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_McCovey#Major_Leagues
LuckyCharms
(17,413 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)Is he such a malignant narcissist that his memories are distorted to that extent?!
An outright liar would be more comforting.
bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)of Birtherism.
Not only was Willie McCovey black, but he played for the San Francisco Giants.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)He could have been a contender, if it hadn't been for those blue-state boxing judges.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts).138!
I mean, it's only nine games worth, but damn!
Fucking bozo.
The Magistrate
(95,241 posts)We must add 'everything Trump says is lies' to 'everything Trump touches dies'....
mac56
(17,564 posts)The guy is a medical marvel.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,587 posts)in 1968. Or maybe it was 1969. I beat Sonia Henie, anyhow. Oh, was she in the Olympics in 1936? It was a different year, then, but I'm sure it was her. Or maybe it was Katarina Witt. It's been a long time. I have the medal somewhere, though.
NNadir
(33,470 posts)...mouth, he's lying.
Hangdog Slim
(81 posts)A person could bunt every AB and do as well as a .138 BA. Pathetic loser
Harker
(13,976 posts)A lotta people say that's fantastic.
DemoTex
(25,390 posts)Apologies to former Texas Agricultural Commissioner Jim Hightower and University of Oklahoma and Dallas Cowboys Coach Barry Switzer, both of whom used versions of this pithy witticism.
aggiesal
(8,907 posts)He was the punter on the baseball team!
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)in the early 1920s. He didn't want to play in the pros because he could make more money in the business world."
Be ready for that story if this thing grows legs and gets national attention. The bots on Facebook will call the story fake news and cook up the one above about their hero.
rsdsharp
(9,137 posts)quoted as saying you couldnt make money in baseball in theaters, even as a great player.
Brainfodder
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So much truth, about to catch up to all the winning?
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)No shock that the real truth is he could barely hit HS pitching. What a loser you wonder how this stupid clown would have fared if he had to make it on his own minus 55 million from Daddy....since he managed to go bankrupt anyway. This is your worthless hero Trumpsters.
Had I inherited 55 million I would have given my parents and Sister 10 million apiece....that would leve me with 25 million I would donate at least 5 million of that.
Then I would try to scrape by with 20 million.
But not fat Donnie he wanted more and more and wanted his Freaking name everywhere.
I really hope there is a Hell Cause if there is he punched his ticket there years ago.
Captain Zero
(6,783 posts)I don't believe he was a catcher. First base maybe at the end of the game.
Maybe they had him catch batting practice for the guys who could hit above .138