'Genocide by default': Yale epidemiologist calls Trump's coronavirus response a potential war crime

[CousinIT]

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/genocide-by-default-yale-epidemiologist-calls-trumps-coronavirus-response-a-potential-war-crime/

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Gregg Gonsalves, an epidemiologist who works as an assistant professor at Yale School of Public Health, wrote a scathing tweet about the president’s latest efforts to send Americans back to work even though more than 70,000 people have died so far with no end in sight.

“How many people will die this summer, before Election Day?” he asked. “What proportion of the deaths will be among African-Americans, Latinos, other people of color? This is getting awfully close to genocide by default. What else do you call mass death by public policy?”

Gonsalves went on to say that Trump’s negligence is so gross that he could be prosecuted for war crimes under international law.

“So, what does it mean to let thousands die by negligence, omission, failure to act, in a legal sense under international law?” he asked. “And I am being serious here: what is happening in the US is purposeful, considered negligence, omission, failure to act by our leaders. Can they be held responsible under international law?”

[grumpyduck]

1. Yesssssssss!

I've been thinking the same thing myself. Unfortunately, under our current screwed up system, it would never happen.

[Newest Reality]

2. Yup.

One would expect that a stochastic terrorist, (which is a term that fits that cretin well) would also practice stochastic genocide. If the former is true, then latter is an expected result in some way.

Trump 2020: Live And Let DIE!

That's a good replacement for the now obsolete Keep America Great. It is despicable to have a person like that in the highest office in the land. It's like hiring an alligator to watch your children.

[Laelth]

3. To answer the Professor's question, no.

International law can not enforce its judgments, even if Trump were found guilty at the Hague. Besides which, the United States continues to refuse to subject its citizens to the jurisdiction of the World Court.

Nice try, but no.

-Laelth

[TomSlick]

38. As shown at Nuremberg, it is not correct that international law is unenforceable.

However, a war crime is a violation of the laws of war. Trump's abuse of the citizens of the U.S. not in the context of an international armed conflict is not a violation of the law of war. It is also not a crime against peace as at Nuremberg. It seems a stretch to call it a crime against humanity like the Holocaust.

Truly stupid? You bet. An elevation of Trump's perceived needs for reelection over the value of human life? Obviously. A war crime? No, not so much.

[duforsure]

4. Was it really him ,

Or is he a puppet of Putin and the Russian mob?

[Disaffected]

5. I would say

more a crime against humanity.

Similar to kids in cages.

[intheflow]

6. When LIHOP isn't a conspiracy theory...

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Seriously, though, Trump's committing genocide with COVID-19 response, and ecocide with his rollbacks of environmental protections and refusal to join with global climate response initiatives. He is death personified.

[niyad]

16. I had hoped that we would never need LIHOP and MIHOP ever again.

[wnylib]

20. Genocide Don

Let that name stick to him like Moscow Mitch for his personally owned Senator.

Or, Donald Death.

[47of74]

21. Genocidal Donnie

[CountAllVotes]

7. Voluntary manslaughter MURDER ONE

n/t

& recommend.

[JCMach1]

8. Eugenics more Precisely

[renate]

18. yep. If it were whites who were disproportionately affected, I have no doubt whatsoever

that jackbooted protesters wouldn't be clamoring to open things up.

[JCMach1]

26. The protestors are at least 2/3 straight up white supremacists

i.e literal NAZIs

[renate]

28. Trump's people

It’s so awful that the most loyal members of the POTUS’s base are white supremacists, and we’re so worn down and disheartened after four years of it that we’re just like “yep, that’s true” about what should be a truly horrifying fact.

[mrsadm]

9. Has Trump gotten the epidemiologist fired yet?

Time to fire the guy.

[Hekate]

10. KnR

[burrowowl]

11. Kick

[2naSalit]

12. K&R!!

[elleng]

13. ' mass death by public policy'

[ffr]

14. 45's trying to live up to his WWII idol.

It is genocide by inaction.

[iluvtennis]

23. ++ agree. nt

[plimsoll]

15. As to the final question

Can they be held responsible under international law?

Why the qualifier. Can they be held responsible? So far I think you'd have to say no.

[Initech]

17. Something has got to take this POS down.

[Upthevibe]

19. This too....

Dereliction of duty: The deliberate or accidental failure to do what you should do as part of your job.

[patphil]

22. Deliberate, systematic, criminally negligent homicide.

I don't see how you could call it anything less.

[LiberalLovinLug]

24. This is what prominent Democrats should be shouting...WHO CARES IF ITS EVEN PLAUSABLE?

We have to fight in the pits. You just know if it were Hillary in office, and she had dragged her foot the same way, (although she wouldn't) leading to countless needless deaths, the GOP would be calling it a "war crime" every day.

Even before Trump rose to prominence in the political field, the GOP were masters at promoting the most outlandish accusations, Clintons as murderers for one.

I know we don't want to stoop low like that. But we tried going high. Its not going to work on this President. Democrats are still living in the 80's it seems like sometimes. When we are in a winning place, when we have consolidated power, then we can start thinking about going high. Right now we should be willing to go even lower than they are. Who cares if there is no actual way to prosecute him this way. There is no cost to saying it. Pushing it. Making them have to react to it. Because, as they already have figured out, in todays world of competing news networks, whenever Ds or Rs are compelled to react back, it means it stays in the news, and more people start to think it might be true. ie...Clintons are murderers.

[mopinko]

25. i flat out call him hitler now. no more cutsie references, no twitler

he's got an adequate body count now. he's america's hitler

[SheltieLover]

41. I concur, Mo!

[Grins]

27. What do you call mass death by public policy??

I call it the REPUBLICAN PARTY!

[GeorgeGist]

29. Worse than shooting someone on 5th Ave

[lagomorph777]

32. Shooting EVERYONE on 5th Avenue. He finally fulfilled his fantasy.

[GeorgeGist]

30. More like by design.

[lagomorph777]

31. Not omission; deliberate acts of murder. Stealing PPE instead of firing up the DPA.

[Faux pas]

33. YES YES YES!

[BigmanPigman]

34. He went against the Constitution AGAIN

The preamble says it is his job to promote our general welfare.

Impeach him again!

[live love laugh]

35. "Give me jobs and give me death."

Dereliction of duty.

[Blue Owl]

36. Fuck that miserable fat sack of shit traitor

n/t

[uponit7771]

37. THANK YOU !!!

[dalton99a]

39. It is premeditated mass murder.

Plain and simple

[calimary]

40. LOCK HIM UP!

And give ME the key! So I can take it three miles offshore and drop it into the ocean.

[mountain grammy]

42. America's Chernobyl.

[colsohlibgal]

43. Without A Shred Of Doubt

On top of his culpability on this virus he is nothing more than a deadbeat con man. Can you imagine how crooked his tax returns and dealings with banks and contractors is?

He is a thoroughly crooked and disgusting human being.

[Botany]

44. If you do not test until people are showing symptoms of the disease then you have a up to a 2 ...

... week period where the person could be spreading the disease asymptotically.

Don knew of the disease not in Jan. of 2020 but in November of 2019 @ which
point he and Kush-turd did not prepare America and the world for the disease
they decided to make money from it by hawking hydroxychoroquine and their
own C-19 test kit rather than the perfectly good one from the W.H.O..

[OhNo-Really]

45. Acts of omission & commission: Blatantly Guilty - Murderer-in-Chief

[TechNerd]

46. Necropolitics at its finest

What we are witnessing is economic eugenics. The elderly, the health compromised and people of color are being sacrificed in the name of "saving the economy".

If anyone needed further proof that the Right-wing and Repubs have full-on embraced Hitlerian fascism in purging society, this is it.

[Evolve Dammit]

47. It really is genocide by default, or at least willfull, gross negligence resulting in manslaughter?

[citizen blues]

48. Dr. John Campbell, a professor of nursing from the UK

has reported on findings in the UK that there is a biological basis for people with darker skin experiencing more complications. It has to do with Vitamin D. He's even been accused of being a racist by stating this, but the UK government now has data to back that up.

This finding would strengthen the case for genocide.

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Not only that, but Trump administration has been accused of deliberately deporting people out the immigration detention camps back to vulnerable countries like Mexico, those in Central America and the Caribbean.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/us-is-deporting-infected-migrants-back-to-vulnerable-countries/2020/04/21/5ec3dcfe-8351-11ea-81a3-9690c9881111_story.html

Not to mention that the U.S. prison population is predominantly minority. Meat packing and other food production are often served by immigrant and minority labor.

In the state I currently live in, the Latino population has been getting hit hard because of the conditions in the meat packing plants. The state my younger offspring lives in, the same population is getting hit exceptionally hard for the same reason plus large scale agriculture and other food production plants.

I find it entirely plausible that we are witnessing genocide.