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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump steals Loudon County Va. PPE shipment:
Link to tweet
https://loudounnow.com/2020/05/06/feds-intercept-loudoun-bound-ppe-shipment/
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)happybird
(4,604 posts)Thats my county and cases here have started to ramp up over the past few days.
countingbluecars
(4,766 posts)This is infuriating.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)... from long ago.
"Loudoun" got my attention right away for that reason.
Neurotica
(609 posts)I've been anxiously waiting for the numbers out of VDH - but they had some sort of technical error compiling the data last night. No update yet today for VA.
So maddening to have our resources taken away -- especially when it's been so incredibly difficult to get them in the first place.
Botany
(70,490 posts)<County Administrator Tim Hemstreet said Loudoun has been bundling its orders with other localities to buy directly from manufacturers. But, he said, that can also attract attention, and he confirmed at a Board of Supervisors meeting Tuesday that an order headed for Loudoun had been intercepted by the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
Upon arrival, the federal agency outbid the localities for the personal protective equipment and took it, he said.
FEMA took those supplies and then distributed them into their regular pipeline, and then we were told to go and meet our PPE needs through our state process, Hemstreet said.
But Hemstreet said the county is not out any moneyas a general rule, for those orders, Loudoun County government pays on delivery.>
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Why is Trump still in power? This is a nightmare.
brewens
(13,574 posts)Botany
(70,490 posts)... sell 'em to a higher bidder? Neither do I. Why is that mother fucker still in power.
Remember when Trump, Kushner, and Pompeo sent 18 tons of P.P.E. to China in Feb. 0f 2019
because Trump owes China $220,000,000? Oh that one is true.
brewens
(13,574 posts)that gets around. I ducked into a small mom and pop grocery store today for some milk on my morning walk. I would have grabbed some sausage but there was none to be had. That's just a big enough store to have a meat and produce dept. The selection was pretty sparse.
Can we cut exports to China off when they supply so much medical equipment? Those guys eat Trumps lunch daily! We'll come out on the short end of the stick on that one for sure.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)This is now a national security issue. Training the national guard to take over might be a solution too.
China by itself isn't the issue on this one.
brewens
(13,574 posts)even if they did increase what we sell them. I just think our sending anything at all over there might cause a big stink. I meant to post the link in the first place but forgot.
https://www.usmef.org/international-markets/china/?fbclid=IwAR1lJkP03mkCerJYaDyVnZRuWBgbiE77REUy0c5PFU1f9w_WZlxLwRKkljY
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)There's some that's being sent there to be processed and sent back as well, which cuts Americans out of the labor loop.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)relish investigating the criminal actions of this misadministration once Barr is no longer around to muzzle them.
Hav
(5,969 posts)Some states already use the national guard to protect their supplies or try to hide what's getting delivered.
I don't want to be too cynical but there has to be a demand so high that federal agencies just follow the purchases of other parties, including state governments and first responders, and confiscate whatever they find. That's third world level.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,321 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)added in would do the trick.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Use the means necessary.
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)as it does in blue ones.
(at least that would be my guess).
Winning hearts and minds at an astonishing pace ...
erronis
(15,241 posts)because of the smart people working around the DC metro area. (Reds aren't smart...)
FEMA/trump will target selected areas for "punishment" based on his tarot cards read during "executive time".
Just to muddy the waters, the Dump National Golf Course is in Loudon County. But it really is a dump - I've been there several times (not a golfer.)
Lonestarblue
(9,971 posts)Ive seen some interviews and articles (Mike DeWine, DeSantis, five Republican governors in WaPo), and none of them mentioned shortages of medical equipment. All mentioned ramped-up testing that indicated they had testing supplies for everyone. I believe Trump is seizing shipments intended for Democratic states and sending them to red states. I also believe he has told manufacturers to fill orders from Republican governors at 100%, even when that means orders from Democratic governors can only be filled at 10-12%.
The question no one seems to ask or get answered is why FEMA is even buying medical supplies when every state has been told to secure its own supplies. What is FEMA doing with all these confiscated supplies? N the Virginia case, they seem to have outbid the county, but in other cases they have just stolen the shipments. Why?
LiberalArkie
(15,713 posts)Girard442
(6,070 posts)Unmarked trucks. Random routes. Secure encrypted communications. Sealed containers that destroy their contents if forced open. Armed guards. Whatever it takes.
On edit: Imagine a shipping container full of PPE with a digital lock. Inside is a capsule of butyl mercaptan that is released if the container is forced open. The driver (and escorts) don't have the combination.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)tinrobot
(10,895 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)It's just like that game played out at the Chamber of Commerce. Leadership hampers the medical community from protecting the public. That's how they get control of the entire board.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)Actual mobsters.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)wealthiest Counties in the Nation,this will come back to haunt the GOP from this day forward.
Grins
(7,212 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)Celerity
(43,314 posts)on their side and healthcare workers and logistical supply chains in the United States are not armed battalions with the ability to resist via kinetic force.
BadgerMom
(2,770 posts)could state attorneys general act here? This cant be legal.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)bonniebgood
(940 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)I mean, really.
TheFourthMind
(343 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The future will be far more aggressive.
TheFourthMind
(343 posts)appalachiablue
(41,127 posts)It's outrageous.
gademocrat7
(10,654 posts)IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)especially in a swing area of a big swing state that has been getting bluer in recent elections.
renate
(13,776 posts)I know everything's fine and dandy when Trump does it, but surely there must be some Mah Guns people who will at least feel a twinge of the kind of fury they'd feel if Obama STOLE LIFESAVING EQUIPMENT after failing to order it himself.
JudyM
(29,233 posts)Its the outer commuting suburbs of DC in northern VA. If folks get pissed this will spread and help ensure VA migrates farther into the Blue.
JHB
(37,158 posts)The federal government and President Trump continues to tell states and localities they are responsible for getting their own PPE, and they undermine that by outbidding and taking PPE, Randall said. How about they get a daggone federal response that actually works instead of this piecemeal approach that they have that actually is not helping anyone, and outbidding localities? That is infuriating.
Three Cheers for County Chairwoman Phyllis J. Randall:
c-rational
(2,590 posts)Under whose authority is this being done, and why don't they have to explain themselves. Am I asking too much. (Apparently yes).
ecstatic
(32,682 posts)sakabatou
(42,148 posts)EndlessWire
(6,513 posts)who could be asking the question of where are they taking the PPEs and who is benefiting from them.
Congress people, reporters...make him answer, and not just say, "I don't know."
To me this is criminal behavior. It is not acceptable, and I don't care what "EO" Trump signed.
This is like being at war. Who wouldn't be tempted to have a PPE underground railroad. How dare they!
And is galling that the Orange Turd told the states to get their own. Fuck FEMA, fuck Trump.
Where is your pride, FEMA?!