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Celerity

(43,280 posts)
Thu May 7, 2020, 07:34 PM May 2020

CDC Provisional COVID-19 Death Counts by Sex, Age (as of the week ending May 2, 2020)

These numbers are for the total pandemic to date, NOT a weekly total.

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku/data



There are around 61 (actually more as the numbers I have are from 2018) million people under 15 years of age in the US, and 10 total documented deaths in that cohort.

Under 25 years of age (over 104 million people), 58 total documented COVID-19 deaths (48 plus 10)

Under 35 years of age (over 150 million people) 375 total deaths (58 plus 317)


Under 45 years of age (over 191 million people) 1171 total documented deaths (375 + 796)

99.2% of all US CDC documented COVID deaths have come from the 35 years of age and over cohort

97.3% of all US CDC documented COVID deaths have come from the 45 years of age and over cohort

92.2% from the 55 years of age and over cohort

These numbers are at the time of this report, the numbers of deaths are larger now, but the increase in terms of raw numbers will be low for the under 35 years of age cohorts, and I would assume the percentages overall should be very close in terms of distribution.

Adjusting for the total death count (which is tenuous in terms of outcomes, as many of the younger deaths more than likely had comorbidities that took them out early) as of today, the under 15yo cohort (61+ million people) total deaths would be 17, the under 25yo cohort (104+ million) would be 101 total deaths, the under 35yo cohort (150+ million people) would be 655 total deaths, and the entire under 45yo cohort (191+ million people) would be 2045 total.

Sweden

Here in Sweden, we have kept all the under high school level schools opened, have never went into total lockdown, and yet we have a total of 18 deaths from COVID-19 under 40 years of age, 7 under 30yo, zero deaths under 20yo. Even in the 40 to 49yo cohort, there have only been a total of 29 deaths.

Almost 99% of the deaths are OVER 50 years of age, yet that under 50yo cohort is roughly TWO THIRDS of our entire population. In other words, amongst a group of 6.7 million people here (out of 10.1 million total pops) we have had a total of 47 deaths, and most of those had comorbidity.

The youngest half of the population in Sweden has had a grand total of 18 deaths, and that is with almost all the middle schools (and under) wide open the whole time, and no lockdowns anywhere.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

96% of the COVID-19 deaths here are over 60yo, 88% over 70 years of age. 65% have been over 80 years old.
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
1. Are you having some type of guilt complex about resuming your work life at 24 years old?
Thu May 7, 2020, 10:13 PM
May 2020

You seem to be really hitting the "it is prettymuch killing old people" point pretty hard.

I hope that people that think they are free and clear at least wear masks in public, if only to protect older people that are at greater risk.

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
3. I appreciate the numbers. But of course to apply Swedish stats to American stats...
Fri May 8, 2020, 01:20 PM
May 2020

You have to multiply everything by 33. There's only like 10 million Swedes. Yall've killed 7 young adults, but that'd be like killing 230 Yankee Doodles in their 20s if it was over here, several of whom would probably be all or part Swedish.

I mean, that's gotta be kind of embarrassing for y'all. I think United States has gotta have more Swedes than Sweden. We literally out-Swede you.

Celerity

(43,280 posts)
4. I have done dozens of posts on Sweden, and always multiple by 33 to give the US equaivalent. This
Fri May 8, 2020, 01:55 PM
May 2020

OP was one of the few where I posted both Swedish and US numbers together. I apologize for not adjusting for population in terms of the Swedish numbers.

Our deaths are even more concentrated (%-wise) in the oldest cohorts than the US numbers are.

Just for comparison, looking at the younger cohorts, we have had zero deaths under 20yo (there might now be 1, a girl with major comorbidities)

If we look at the under 35yo cohorts, the US has had only (I say only as we are talking 150 million people) 375 deaths as of the date of these numbers (it obviously has went up somewhat now)

In Sweden we had 11, so if you multiple by 33, that yields 363 in terms of US population-adjusted equivalent deaths, or basically the same (and once more deaths are tallied into the US totals, you will have an even bigger difference, more than likely)

I say more than likely as the other thing to keep in mind is that the the Sweden numbers are so small that just a few deaths have a far greater impact, especially in terms of the lower age cohorts, than a few do on the US lower age cohorts.

Also, Swedish link is constantly updated, so the numbers in the OP will not be completely up to date soon (as will the US numbers soon as well.) This OP is just a snapshot in time. The percentages, however will probably stay very similar for longer than the raw numbers do.

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
5. I appreciate the detailed thinking you're putting into it
Fri May 8, 2020, 01:58 PM
May 2020

Of course ultimately, comparing Sweden and its healthcare system to the U.S. equivalent has more than a few statistical peculiarities that can't be fixed with a simple x33

Celerity

(43,280 posts)
6. Our MASSIVE fail, a horrid tragedy (and the main reason we are so fucked in terms of deaths
Fri May 8, 2020, 02:30 PM
May 2020

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per million compared to Denmark, Norway, and Finland) was our nursing homes. They account for as much as 70% (there is a shedload of argument here atm, some say it is even higher, and certainly it is higher for very old people who are not even in a home) of our deaths en toto. We (unfortunately) had a FAR more lax system in terms of visitation/protocols and in terms of higher staff turnover than the other Nordics. Those arguments and finger-pointings are now the hottest topic in the whole country atm. They fucked up bad. Today on SVT (out state TV, a group of doctors said we had similar nursing home deaths and overall elderly deaths per million rates that Denmark has, our deaths per million OVERALL (for all age cohorts) would only be a wee bit higher than the Danes. They said we would be at around 110-120 deaths per million versus the Dane's rate of 90 (which will soon cross 100).

They also said that other Nordics are being far more conservative than Sweden has been with their COVID-19 death attributions so all the other Nordics have higher death rates than they are letting on (that war of words has been going on for months, and has gotten REALLY nasty at times, especially with Denmark versus Sweden, quelle surprise), All the other Nordics have a very hostile stance in regards to Sweden in terms of our refugee/immigration policy. That group (the refugees/immigrants) have also be really hard hit here as well, as they do not practice social distancing to a level anywhere near to what the native Swedes do, plus they are less well-off income wise, and also health wise (for a number of reasons.)

They make up a much, much higher percentage of of the Swedish population than they do in Norway, Denmark, and especially Finland. In the past 23, 25 or so years, we have taken in the US-equivalent of well over 50 million refugees, the vast bulk post 2002 (starting with the 2003 US-led 2nd Iraq war, and continuing on with all the other US/UK/NATO-led ME shitsorms like Libya, Syria, etc) Before that is was the Balkan wars that the US/UK/NATO (we are NOT in NATO) also played a huge role in. Before that it was all the other US shit-stirs (Allende in Chile, the Central American murder coups, various African coups, etc), going back to the staring major event, Operation Ajax in 1953, when the CIA led the coup d'etat of Mossadegh in Iran and installed the murderous thug Shah and his SS-style SAVAK into power. It is why we have a shedload of Persians here (and they have integrated in wonderfully over the past 67 years) But that is a LONG discussion for another time, lol

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