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Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
Fri May 8, 2020, 03:53 PM May 2020

I received THE BEST Mother's Day gift today!

It came in a phone call from my oldest son. Said son is married to a Chump supporter and has adopted her stance over the years, to the point where politics is a taboo subject among us. The comments I've heard from him have made me wonder how I raised a person with such warped thinking. It's been heartbreaking at times.

Fast forward to today's call. "Mom, have you heard the idiotic spew coming from trump about COVID? Can you believe someone could be this stupid? What the hell is wrong with this jackass?"

Welcome home, Son...best Mother's Day ever!

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I received THE BEST Mother's Day gift today! (Original Post) Totally Tunsie May 2020 OP
Oh Tunsie! That's wonderful! BComplex May 2020 #1
Scary stuff, "B". I hope your daughter is able to resist moving Totally Tunsie May 2020 #17
Sweet. You laid the groundwork. Arkansas Granny May 2020 #2
I know Faux pas May 2020 #3
My Mother's Day wish for you is that you receive a similar gift Totally Tunsie May 2020 #7
What a relief. If my sons were Trumpers, it would be as painful to me as I was to my father. NNadir May 2020 #4
My dad was a life-long Repug also, and was a Totally Tunsie May 2020 #32
My dad didn't like Obama LeftInTX May 2020 #35
The good news is that your dad and my dad both raised kids Totally Tunsie May 2020 #37
Same here. Never understood how "godly" people could be so cruel. LakeArenal May 2020 #45
And look at you now - living in Paradise and content as can be! Totally Tunsie May 2020 #47
Best gift ever malaise May 2020 #5
Congratulations on getting back brer cat May 2020 #6
Wonderful gift, indeed! 3catwoman3 May 2020 #8
You nailed it, catwoman! I WAS bouncing off my couch. Totally Tunsie May 2020 #18
When a situation becomes personally threatening, it's amazing how viewpoints can change dlk May 2020 #9
One by one by one, his supporters are peeling away. Mister Ed May 2020 #10
People are beginning to answer "What have you got to lose?" with Totally Tunsie May 2020 #19
What about his wife? Any news there? Does she agree with her husband? liberalla May 2020 #11
Wife is still in Chump camp, and not likely to change. Totally Tunsie May 2020 #20
Congratulations! demigoddess May 2020 #12
I'd have had a hard time not saying PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #13
I opted for "It's about time you saw the light!" Totally Tunsie May 2020 #21
Well, still better than my first impulse. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #29
You're a lucky mom. Totally Tunsie May 2020 #30
Thank you! PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #34
The prodigal son captain queeg May 2020 #14
HA! Totally Tunsie May 2020 #22
I'm so happy for you! liberalmuse May 2020 #15
"Seeing the light" was exactly the gist of my response. Totally Tunsie May 2020 #23
Wonderful news! Niagara May 2020 #16
Yaaaaay! SheltieLover May 2020 #24
Bloody marvellous! Soph0571 May 2020 #25
indeed. AllaN01Bear May 2020 #26
Keep the trend going. warmfeet May 2020 #27
So happy for you Tunsie! smirkymonkey May 2020 #28
It's such a Totally Tunsie May 2020 #31
Ah Tunsie.. I can imagine how that makes you Cha May 2020 #33
Good news!! Someone is seeing the light LeftInTX May 2020 #36
trump is morally bankrupt. Totally Tunsie May 2020 #39
I'm so happy for you Hekate May 2020 #38
There's always hope. Totally Tunsie May 2020 #40
k&r Demovictory9 May 2020 #41
I got a music box that plays Bohemian Rhapsody tavernier May 2020 #42
Treasure that! Totally Tunsie May 2020 #44
Hopefully this will be one of the good outcomes of this pandemic. Eyes will be opened. Fla Dem May 2020 #43
It seems to be happening...slowly, but it's there. Totally Tunsie May 2020 #46
My heart did a little leap for you. How wonderful that he can still see at least some of the crap. JudyM May 2020 #48
Happy Mother's Day indeed! Congratulations! cayugafalls May 2020 #49

BComplex

(8,036 posts)
1. Oh Tunsie! That's wonderful!
Fri May 8, 2020, 03:57 PM
May 2020

Happy Mother's Day!

My daughter just started dated a guy who is "Republican, but I don't care for trump." I worry that that is still a slippery slope, but at least he doesn't like trump!

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
17. Scary stuff, "B". I hope your daughter is able to resist moving
Fri May 8, 2020, 05:08 PM
May 2020

to the dark side. It's so hard to get them back, but Chump's COVID stupidity seems to be taking its toll.

Good luck!

Faux pas

(14,667 posts)
3. I know
Fri May 8, 2020, 04:05 PM
May 2020

the heartbreak. My son has one foot in reality and the other in the 3 ring circus world. It's a serious disappointment

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
7. My Mother's Day wish for you is that you receive a similar gift
Fri May 8, 2020, 04:16 PM
May 2020

in the near future.

Perhaps COVID will be The Great Equalizer, leaving harmony and balance in the wake of its destruction. When something threatens your family so personally and directly, apparently it can clarify one's thinking pretty quickly. If Chump's stupidly about the 'rona is what finally reorients the thinking of the MAGAts, it will save us from another miserable four years.

BYE DON 2020.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
4. What a relief. If my sons were Trumpers, it would be as painful to me as I was to my father.
Fri May 8, 2020, 04:11 PM
May 2020

I loved him dearly, and he loved me, but it is true that we often ended up screaming at one another about politics. He was pretty right wing.

Our wives, my wife, and my stepmother, couldn't believe how we argued, and then how we always managed to make up.

I did have a few run ins with my oldest son over Bernie Sanders, who I despised, and of whom he thought somewhat more highly. (His preferred candidate was Andrew Yang.)

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
32. My dad was a life-long Repug also, and was a
Fri May 8, 2020, 10:38 PM
May 2020

personal friend of Prescott Bush (GHWB's father). He was quiet about it, though, as he was about most things. Unfortunately, he was also what today we call a racist. He was raised at a time when it was simply thought of as "being better".

Even as a kid, I was embarrassed by some of the things he uttered, somehow innately knowing that he was wrong in his thinking. High school brought about my strengthening opinions as I had several black friends during those years. It was difficult to understand why my otherwise wonderful dad harbored these horrid opinions.

We rarely discussed serious issues because we could sense the damage that might do to our relationship. He never changed, but I grew more liberal as time went on. Mom wasn't a factor - she wasn't a thinker, and voted as Dad told her to do.

I adored my dad and never wanted to upset him. He'd be appalled that his only child moved so far to the left.

I often wondered if he would have mellowed over the years and would have accepted Obama as POTUS. Rather, I think he'd be a trumpster were he alive today.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
35. My dad didn't like Obama
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:53 AM
May 2020

Especially the ACA

My dad got involved with that Swift Voter Veterans group. My dad was career military and an AF pilot. He was a Democrat, but after he went to Vietnam when I was 10, he came back a Republican and voted for Nixon. Then he got all bitter about Watergate etc.

He didn't mail in his ballot in Nov 2016. He said he wasn't gonna vote cuz of the "grab em by the p..." He died before the election, my brother found the blank ballot. (My brother is a Republican too)

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
37. The good news is that your dad and my dad both raised kids
Sat May 9, 2020, 02:02 AM
May 2020

who could think for themselves, no matter their environment. I'd say that's an accomplishment.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
45. Same here. Never understood how "godly" people could be so cruel.
Sat May 9, 2020, 11:56 AM
May 2020

My brother once brought home a group of friends. One was a very chubby young black woman. The fattism was almost as toxic as the racism.

They made her leave.... So everyone left including my brother. It was one of the defining moments. I was a fat child. They berated me pretty much always. I really felt they hated me, too.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
47. And look at you now - living in Paradise and content as can be!
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:17 PM
May 2020

Those very same people would now be green with envy. You did something right, LA!

dlk

(11,552 posts)
9. When a situation becomes personally threatening, it's amazing how viewpoints can change
Fri May 8, 2020, 04:22 PM
May 2020

However your son comes around to reason and reality, I’m happy for you.

Mister Ed

(5,928 posts)
10. One by one by one, his supporters are peeling away.
Fri May 8, 2020, 04:23 PM
May 2020

His hard-core supporters will never see reality, but many of the independents who in 2016 said, "What the hell, let's give him a chance" are not going to give him another.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
19. People are beginning to answer "What have you got to lose?" with
Fri May 8, 2020, 05:15 PM
May 2020

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"Plenty - my life, my family, my livelihood." If COVID had to strike, it picked a good time to do so. 179 days to the election...YAY!

liberalla

(9,238 posts)
11. What about his wife? Any news there? Does she agree with her husband?
Fri May 8, 2020, 04:24 PM
May 2020

...and oh yes, happy Mother's Day to you!

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
20. Wife is still in Chump camp, and not likely to change.
Fri May 8, 2020, 05:23 PM
May 2020

With politics being a taboo subject when we're together, at least the rest of us don't have to listen to it. I'm not sure how she came to support him - her parents are as anti-Chump as any good DUer. She's somewhat infected their two teens, though, so there's still work to be done.

Happy Mother's Day to you also! 💐

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
29. Well, still better than my first impulse.
Fri May 8, 2020, 06:51 PM
May 2020

I am fortunate in that my isn't married to a Trumper. He doesn't happen to be married at all, as if that's important here. Whenever our conversations veer to politics it's clear he's at least as liberal as I am.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
15. I'm so happy for you!
Fri May 8, 2020, 05:02 PM
May 2020

I can't imagine what it's like having a loved one be a Trump supporter. I'm glad he is beginning to see the light. That is definitely the best Mother's Day gift.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
25. Bloody marvellous!
Fri May 8, 2020, 05:59 PM
May 2020

I bet you are dancing on the roof. And trend ways for November for the rest of the world?!?! Huzzah

Cha

(297,154 posts)
33. Ah Tunsie.. I can imagine how that makes you
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:25 PM
May 2020

feel! Happy Mother's Day!

Wonder how your son's wife feels about it?

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
36. Good news!! Someone is seeing the light
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:59 AM
May 2020


Or seeing that there is insanity in the WH

My hubby voted for Trump, but didn't like him. (It's the SC abortion thing) After a few months, he was like, "What was I thinking??" He usually votes for mostly Democratic candidates, but he feels out of religious conviction that somehow Roe V Wade will be overturned. Now he realizes that Trump is nothing but the lowest common denominator and scum of the earth.

I think he's given up on the Supreme Court for awhile...

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
39. trump is morally bankrupt.
Sat May 9, 2020, 02:10 AM
May 2020

There is not a single value or conviction in which he truly believes. The only principle he follows is "What will benefit him the most at the time."

IMO, the only thing I think he has any caring for is I'wanna, and then sometimes I even doubt that.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
40. There's always hope.
Sat May 9, 2020, 02:27 AM
May 2020

Seeing the path my son was on, I fully expected he would continue to swerve to the right. His wife is a powerful force, and it's usually easier to "Go along to get along". My son is no wimp, but he does like to live a pleasant, low stress life.

I'm beginning to see cracks in Chump's stronghold. With Chump going off the rails on a regular basis, it seems those who are on the fence are now beginning to lean in our direction. Perhaps your child(ren) will be among them.

Happy Mother's Day!

tavernier

(12,377 posts)
42. I got a music box that plays Bohemian Rhapsody
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:01 AM
May 2020

from my grandson who also thinks Rump is a jackass.
As a Democrat and a Queen fan, made my day.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
46. It seems to be happening...slowly, but it's there.
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:14 PM
May 2020

There's a shiny side to everything, even if it doesn't seem so at first.

JudyM

(29,233 posts)
48. My heart did a little leap for you. How wonderful that he can still see at least some of the crap.
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:34 PM
May 2020

Wonderful to reconnect.

Hopefully his wife is on the same trajectory!

We have to command the public dialogue.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
49. Happy Mother's Day indeed! Congratulations!
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:53 PM
May 2020

Best thing is, you got your son back. Now you can have all sorts of conversations.

Must feel good...

Be well.

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