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Bleacher Creature

(11,252 posts)
Sun May 10, 2020, 09:52 PM May 2020

This news from Hong Kong seems like a big deal.




It's a small sample, so take it with a grain of salt, but there's been a lot of speculation that some of the most severe cases could be tied to a person's viral load. If that's the case, this new treatment could end up saving a lot of lives.
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This news from Hong Kong seems like a big deal. (Original Post) Bleacher Creature May 2020 OP
I don't understand why they didn't just do that right away Meowmee May 2020 #1
Glad you are better, peacebuzzard May 2020 #2
Thanks💕 Meowmee May 2020 #4
None are approved by the FDA to treat covid. LisaL May 2020 #3
Yes but in this event that should have been overridden imo Meowmee May 2020 #5
understand your sentiment, but stopdiggin May 2020 #10
Nope Meowmee May 2020 #14
And you have every right to decide your own course stopdiggin May 2020 #15
I did not encourage anyone to do anything nt Meowmee May 2020 #16
understood. I just think people attempting to self prescibe stopdiggin May 2020 #17
Wait until you get it, hopefully never, and get no treatment Meowmee May 2020 #18
problem with that perspective is .. stopdiggin May 2020 #19
It's a realistic perspective if you're not going to get Meowmee May 2020 #21
I'm all for anything that helps kill this thing! Initech May 2020 #6
It's the 400th miracle cure of the cycle greenjar_01 May 2020 #7
Stories like these frustrate me to a great degree. Yavin4 May 2020 #8
I think there's a lot of information sharing stopdiggin May 2020 #11
If it's not a double blind with placebo study, it's not good enough. nt SunSeeker May 2020 #9
To say nothing DENVERPOPS May 2020 #13
The FDA should look into this, STAT NameAlreadyTaken May 2020 #12
KR! Cha May 2020 #20

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
1. I don't understand why they didn't just do that right away
Sun May 10, 2020, 10:11 PM
May 2020

I read someone’s tweet who had it a couple of months ago- she said she went to the emergency room with breathing problems and pneumonia, denied a test 3 x. she was admitted and they gave her 2 antiviral drugs and she got better in two days. She finally was tested positive then.

When I was diagnosed with pneumonia at the field hospital four weeks ago my doctor had told me to go there because they were giving people hydroxy chloroquine and the earlier you get treatment the better.

But when I got there they said only if you’re bad enough to be in the hospital with low pulse ox etc. I had already started Z pack because I have that at home. I talked with her after she reviewed the x-rays and she said it looks like covid pneumonia.

I asked her can you give me some antivirals to stop it from getting more severe, she was saying she can’t do that it is so hard to prescribe them at home etc. so I had to go through 2-3 weeks worrying if I’m going to get so severe and die etc. I had to monitor myself constantly and be in touch with her. I am still recovering from it all after 4 weeks now.

Basically they were saying they’re gonna let you get to the point where you are almost dead – almost no treatment before that if you are not in hospital.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
4. Thanks💕
Sun May 10, 2020, 11:10 PM
May 2020

It has been the most stressful thing maybe ever for me and I have been through several life threatening health crises. I just hope my back pain reduces. I am still having back pain I don’t know if it’s from the pneumonia anymore or something else causing it as well.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
3. None are approved by the FDA to treat covid.
Sun May 10, 2020, 11:09 PM
May 2020

Remdesivir is only approved for those with severe covid.
I don't like the idea of having to be nearly dead before being admitted to a hospital either.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
5. Yes but in this event that should have been overridden imo
Sun May 10, 2020, 11:17 PM
May 2020

Some people were getting them anyway when they went to the hospital and were bad enough to be treated even only briefly, it helped them. So why wait around until you’re almost dead and have to be on a ventilator etc. I also wonder how many people ordered it themselves or got a doctor to prescribe it somehow and it helped them. We are never going to know.

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
10. understand your sentiment, but
Mon May 11, 2020, 12:23 AM
May 2020

let's please not be promoting the idea that people should "order" drugs and prescribe for themselves. This is seriously bad advice. Let your doctor do the prescribing. Please.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
14. Nope
Mon May 11, 2020, 04:09 AM
May 2020

my doctors have made very serious errors numerous times with me and with family members, causing fatality in one case and close to it with me. They will never have my complete trust again, not that they ever did really because I question most of what they say. And if I’m going to be left to die which is basically what could have happened here I will find a way to get what I need. I have already ordered meds for my kitties that way and family members have done it for themselves to avoid the exorbitant costs.

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
15. And you have every right to decide your own course
Mon May 11, 2020, 04:16 AM
May 2020

But I think you are making a PROFOUND mistake in trying to influence others to follow your course.
(if in fact that is what you propose.)
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stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
17. understood. I just think people attempting to self prescibe
Mon May 11, 2020, 04:26 AM
May 2020

for something as serious as Covid .. Just way, way off in the weeds.

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
19. problem with that perspective is ..
Mon May 11, 2020, 04:47 AM
May 2020

I probably know 15 people currently that are convinced that they've "already had it." (very unlikely, by the way!) Now imagine if all those misguided souls are running around trying to get their hands on dangerous items such as chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine, and Remdesivir? (and god knows what else they've heard about on the internet!) You may have some idea of what you are doing. I can assure you that a lot of people out there do NOT!

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
21. It's a realistic perspective if you're not going to get
Mon May 11, 2020, 07:40 PM
May 2020

It’s a realistic perspective if you’re not going to get any treatment, the solution is to stop denying the average people treatment and start getting better treatments now. I would not assume those people didn’t have it, kind of a strange assumption on your part considering what we know. I will say again, I wasn’t encouraging anybody to do anything I’m not sure why you attached to that notion like glue.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
7. It's the 400th miracle cure of the cycle
Sun May 10, 2020, 11:28 PM
May 2020

But yes, I'm sure it's of supreme importance.

Peer reviewed studies.

PERIODT.

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
8. Stories like these frustrate me to a great degree.
Sun May 10, 2020, 11:39 PM
May 2020

Because there does not seem to be any international coordination in this fight nor is there information sharing nor is there some sort of international framework for evaluating new remedies or vaccines, all we are left with are these new stories tauting the latest cure or discovery or new hope without the new discovery being subjected to an international standard.

But, it hits the news. it hits social media. There's a splashy headline, and then poof! Nothing. We never hear about it again.

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
11. I think there's a lot of information sharing
Mon May 11, 2020, 12:26 AM
May 2020

going on within the medical community. Sharing this information with the media .. is fraught with problems, for obvious reasons.

DENVERPOPS

(8,789 posts)
13. To say nothing
Mon May 11, 2020, 12:29 AM
May 2020

of the lists of possible side effects that consume most TV ads, some worse than death or including death....LOL

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