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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:23 PM May 2020

JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Barr to resign

JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.




Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case

It's not clear how the judge in Flynn's case will react to DOJ's reversal.


Nearly 2000 former Justice Department officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.

Last week, the DOJ moved to drop charges against Flynn who had pleaded guilty twice to lying to the FBI about his contacts with the former Russian ambassador during the presidential transition.

The letter, signed mostly by former career officials in the department, accuses Barr of joining with President Trump in "political interference in the Department’s law enforcement decisions."

"Attorney General Barr’s repeated actions to use the Department as a tool to further President Trump’s personal and political interests have undermined any claim to the deference that courts usually apply to the Department’s decisions about whether or not to prosecute a case," reads the letter, which was organized by the group 'Protect Democracy'

More: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2000-doj-officials-call-ag-barr-resign-flynn/story?id=70615677&cid=social_twitter_abcnp


Letter: https://medium.com/@dojalumni/doj-alumni-statement-on-flynn-case-7c38a9a945b9

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JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Barr to resign (Original Post) MelissaB May 2020 OP
Key word missed in ABC tweet... "former." Barr doesn't give a rat's ass what former DOJ officials kysrsoze May 2020 #1
Former or current...Barr is a religious fascist...he wants to kill women and doctors, among other Eliot Rosewater May 2020 #3
That is all true. Caliman73 May 2020 #12
True, but the fact that they are former and not current officials is relevant. totodeinhere May 2020 #31
and ESPECIALLY *women doctors* don't those bi*ches KNOW THEIR PLACE??????? BamaRefugee May 2020 #43
exactly Eliot Rosewater May 2020 #48
Unfortunately, the omission also makes ABC seem disingenuous. Caliman73 May 2020 #7
Wow! The workers are revolting! Sanity Claws May 2020 #2
They don't work there. tazkcmo May 2020 #4
And if they did work there, they'd all be former employees by tomorrow. sop May 2020 #5
For sure. nt tazkcmo May 2020 #6
Absolutely! MyOwnPeace May 2020 #24
Barr could care less. Desert grandma May 2020 #8
He should be disbarred NOW! nt leftieNanner May 2020 #22
That would make a good sign or t-shirt: "Disbar Barr" sop May 2020 #29
+1000 Desert grandma May 2020 #51
That makes a big difference. Sanity Claws May 2020 #9
There are some current employees that have signed on. cayugafalls May 2020 #10
Barr is out before Biden swears in as POTUS. nt oasis May 2020 #11
Maybe with a "Presidential" Pardon in his pocket nt leftieNanner May 2020 #23
Can that happen? dmr May 2020 #34
Well, The Orange One has broken all of the rules and norms leftieNanner May 2020 #37
Yes. Nixon got one. Lochloosa May 2020 #58
Damn, I forgot about that. dmr May 2020 #59
k&r BSdetect May 2020 #13
None of them are leaving until McConnell says its over. (Not Sarcasm) Ford_Prefect May 2020 #14
This only feeds their ego and resolve. Universal pardons would get their attention. bucolic_frolic May 2020 #15
Please change OP title its not correct, uponit7771 May 2020 #16
Tomorrow's story; 2,000 Government Employees Fired and will not be replaced. NoRoadUntravelled May 2020 #17
kind of like a sympathy card,.. stillcool May 2020 #18
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees! malaise May 2020 #19
K&R spanone May 2020 #20
I had hope when I didn't see the expected word "former" in the subject... Silent3 May 2020 #21
Barr could give two shits about what 2,000, 5,000, or a million SBoy May 2020 #25
The problem isn't that trump and Barr don't care Jakes Progress May 2020 #26
People across the United States: DENVERPOPS May 2020 #41
Let the bar complaints begin dlk May 2020 #27
This bullshit stunt with Flynn might just do it Warpy May 2020 #28
He should be taken to one of those meatpacking plants. LiberalFighter May 2020 #30
I betcha $5.00 what is response will be. 3Hotdogs May 2020 #32
A good thing to do, but it will amount to nothing. The mob lawyer's mob boss is happy with him. Vinca May 2020 #33
"former" sigh... mikelgb May 2020 #35
"Former" carries little weight. zentrum May 2020 #36
*HUZZAH*!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UTUSN May 2020 #38
Barr has once again assaulted the rule of law Linda Ed May 2020 #39
YAY!!!! I'm sorry to say that Barr will not give a shit about any of them, BComplex May 2020 #40
Willie the Piper should be playing his last tune by now. yonder May 2020 #42
may be he will bdamomma May 2020 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar May 2020 #45
Lock him up!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 #46
Demons don't resign...they only answer to Satan. Ferrets are Cool May 2020 #47
Bill DISbarr. Fixed. BamaRefugee May 2020 #49
Barr is Trump's pimp Skittles May 2020 #50
No shit, this outrageousness BlueJac May 2020 #52
TY, Melissa.. the link works if you take the "@" out of the url.. Cha May 2020 #53
Why not send the letter to the bar association to have him disbarred? blueinredohio May 2020 #54
It's not clear that discussions on websites will have any substantial impact on the outcome warmfeet May 2020 #55
Him AND his toupee need to go. nt live love laugh May 2020 #56
#firetheliar2020 TheNewNumberTwo May 2020 #57
The Barr family now has one extra piece of toilet paper. HotTeaBag May 2020 #60

kysrsoze

(6,019 posts)
1. Key word missed in ABC tweet... "former." Barr doesn't give a rat's ass what former DOJ officials
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:27 PM
May 2020

think.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
3. Former or current...Barr is a religious fascist...he wants to kill women and doctors, among other
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:30 PM
May 2020

things...

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
12. That is all true.
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:41 PM
May 2020

The problem is as I said in the post below, former officials can be debated as partisan. It is still a huge thing, but the difference between people who "used to work there" and people who are currently there doing the job is critical.

As I said, one is a professional and political statement. Powerful nonetheless. 2000 current workers penning a letter is a "vote of no confidence" a mutiny if you will.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
31. True, but the fact that they are former and not current officials is relevant.
Mon May 11, 2020, 03:02 PM
May 2020

If the headline does not list them as "former" then it's a bit misleading I would think.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
7. Unfortunately, the omission also makes ABC seem disingenuous.
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:38 PM
May 2020

It is huge that so many former officials have called for the resignation, but it is different than actual working employees.

One is a professional but political statement. The other is a statement of the lack of confidence in the leadership.

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
2. Wow! The workers are revolting!
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:28 PM
May 2020

I don't see how the King Bee can survive the revolt of the worker bees.
At least I hope!

Desert grandma

(804 posts)
8. Barr could care less.
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:39 PM
May 2020

Even if they were CURRENT employees. He is the chief enabler of the Liar in Chief and he is as corrupt as they come. I hope there is some type of legal recourse after we get a new administration next January. At the very least he should be disbarred and his reputation, such as it is, should be forever tarnished.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
10. There are some current employees that have signed on.
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:39 PM
May 2020

Here is the full link to the document.

I had to embed it to get it to display properly due to formatting.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
34. Can that happen?
Mon May 11, 2020, 03:05 PM
May 2020

Can you get a Just-in-case-you're-charged-with-a-federal-crime pardon?

I don't think there's such a thing.

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
37. Well, The Orange One has broken all of the rules and norms
Mon May 11, 2020, 03:16 PM
May 2020

of governing so far, so why the hell not?

He has talked about pardoning himself, hasn't he?

But you make a good point.

Lochloosa

(16,063 posts)
58. Yes. Nixon got one.
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:15 AM
May 2020

The pardon of Richard Nixon (formally known as Proclamation 4311) was a presidential proclamation issued by President of the United States Gerald Ford on September 8, 1974. By it, Ford granted to Richard Nixon, his predecessor, a full and unconditional pardon for any crimes that he might have committed against the United States as president.[1][2] In particular, the pardon covered Nixon's actions during the Watergate scandal. In a televised broadcast to the nation, Ford, who had succeeded to the presidency upon Nixon's resignation, explained that he felt the pardon was in the best interests of the country and that the Nixon family's situation was "a tragedy in which we all have played a part. It could go on and on and on, or someone must write the end to it. I have concluded that only I can do that, and if I can, I must."[3]

After Ford left the White House in 1977, he privately justified his pardon of Nixon by carrying in his wallet a portion of the text of Burdick v. United States, a 1915 U.S. Supreme Court decision that suggested that a pardon carries an imputation of guilt and that its acceptance carries a confession of guilt.[4][5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon

dmr

(28,347 posts)
59. Damn, I forgot about that.
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:26 PM
May 2020

Disagreed with it then, and disagree with it now.

Reagan, Bush, Bush and now Trump corrupted the Office and future Republican presidents will continue to corrupt.

Shameful.

I don't need to editorialize it any further.

Thank you for this historical reminder.

Ford_Prefect

(7,887 posts)
14. None of them are leaving until McConnell says its over. (Not Sarcasm)
Mon May 11, 2020, 02:22 PM
May 2020

Putin surely pulls most of the strings but McTurtle is the one who calls the shots, however much he despises the Orangutan-in-Chief.

bucolic_frolic

(43,131 posts)
15. This only feeds their ego and resolve. Universal pardons would get their attention.
Mon May 11, 2020, 02:25 PM
May 2020

"No man is subject to the law."

Silent3

(15,204 posts)
21. I had hope when I didn't see the expected word "former" in the subject...
Mon May 11, 2020, 02:35 PM
May 2020

...of this thread. But there it was when I clicked on it and read more.

Let me know when the CURRENT employees are brave enough or sick and tired enough to do this.

 

SBoy

(92 posts)
25. Barr could give two shits about what 2,000, 5,000, or a million
Mon May 11, 2020, 02:42 PM
May 2020

Lawyers, former Justice Dept, current JD employees and you and me think. He’s impervious to words and has as big an ego as Trump.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
26. The problem isn't that trump and Barr don't care
Mon May 11, 2020, 02:42 PM
May 2020

It isn't even that the republican office holders don't care.

The problem is the dull-witted dweebs who vote for trump not only don't care, they don't understand, or know.

Too many deplorable idiots in the country.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
41. People across the United States:
Mon May 11, 2020, 03:43 PM
May 2020

The Key to resolving the horrific mess in front of us, is the RepubliCON Senators.............

Go after THEM with a vengeance...........................

BTW? has anyone heard word one from the Democratic Party?????? Are they all worn out, after firing their load during the impeachment???????

dlk

(11,553 posts)
27. Let the bar complaints begin
Mon May 11, 2020, 02:43 PM
May 2020

Barr is too corrupt and compromised to retain his law license. The rule of law is at stake here.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
28. This bullshit stunt with Flynn might just do it
Mon May 11, 2020, 02:46 PM
May 2020

although I'm sure Big Dummy will just pardon the bastard. He doesn't really want to do it because he thinks it will make him look bad (duh!), so he's ordered the Toad to pull some shenanigans.

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
39. Barr has once again assaulted the rule of law
Mon May 11, 2020, 03:32 PM
May 2020

Barr has once again assaulted the rule of law, this time in the case of drumpf’s former national security adviser Flynn.
the career prosecutor who withdrew from the Flynn case are upholding the oath ..drumpf accused the career investigators and prosecutors involved in the Flynn case of “treason” and threatened that they should pay “a big price.”

The rule of law should outweigh the mask of corruption...Barr in office sends the message that it is okay to lie to the FBI, that it is okay to break the law as long as one has the right connections in the future.
IThe RULE OF LAW IS AT STAKE! Barr should be DISBARRED! This is BLATANT CORRUPTION!

BComplex

(8,040 posts)
40. YAY!!!! I'm sorry to say that Barr will not give a shit about any of them,
Mon May 11, 2020, 03:42 PM
May 2020

but it's still noteworthy!

Response to MelissaB (Original post)

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
55. It's not clear that discussions on websites will have any substantial impact on the outcome
Mon May 11, 2020, 08:18 PM
May 2020

of authoritarians taking over this nation and eliminating the rule of law.

Fun to talk about, though.

Hope we get to do that, in future.

 

TheNewNumberTwo

(70 posts)
57. #firetheliar2020
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:32 AM
May 2020

even conservative judges (excepting Alito and Gorsuch) take exception to politicians telling them what to do, and if there was ever a 'politician', it is certainly Barr (beyond just being a piece of s***)

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
60. The Barr family now has one extra piece of toilet paper.
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:36 PM
May 2020

That's pretty much how much impact the letter will have.

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