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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:29 PM May 2020

5-4; 5-4...

I've listened long enough to see where this is going, today the s. court will decide that we have a king. Our only hope is a landslide win in November wiping all of the pukes out of power. Then we must stack the courts to their fullest and never allow this to happen again.

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5-4; 5-4... (Original Post) dajoki May 2020 OP
Are they deciding today? GusFring May 2020 #1
No. They won't until summer. Drunken Irishman May 2020 #2
no jberryhill May 2020 #3
Carey Dune is already better than Douglas fucking Letter. GusFring May 2020 #4
In many cases, after a landslide we can get some tough laws through that would be hard to overturn Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #5
You CANNOT pass a Federal Law requiring tax returns to run for President... brooklynite May 2020 #10
I thought several states tried to require a tax return and those laws were thrown out SoonerPride May 2020 #13
They were thrown out by STATE Courts... brooklynite May 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater May 2020 #6
If that happens, the supreme court will be torn to pieces by the news media and the people. shockey80 May 2020 #7
Yeah, wont matter. Media will pay little attention to it like they do all the Eliot Rosewater May 2020 #8
And? Miguelito Loveless May 2020 #23
Question to those more learned than I, PRETZEL May 2020 #9
I think you make a good point. How good is a Supreme Court if they make their decisions Maraya1969 May 2020 #12
Very little in most cases qazplm135 May 2020 #19
Democrats must expand the court, or we will be under their veto power forever. dalton99a May 2020 #11
yes, we must ensure one party rule Amishman May 2020 #14
A functional government that reflects the will of the majority of voters dalton99a May 2020 #16
needs to be some continuity and checks Amishman May 2020 #18
They are already stacked. dems adding to scotus would be merely a correcting Fullduplexxx May 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Amishman May 2020 #20
Exactly. The Supreme Court is not some sacred temple of law and equity dalton99a May 2020 #25
Perhaps the poster should have made clear that we need to "unstack" the courts. The GOP has... Tarheel_Dem May 2020 #26
+1, uponit7771 May 2020 #22
Well, I agree. Yeehah May 2020 #21
The legitimacy of the Roberts Court BlueIdaho May 2020 #24

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
5. In many cases, after a landslide we can get some tough laws through that would be hard to overturn
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:35 PM
May 2020

Like requiring tax returns to run.

Like clear unassailable sunshine laws to require testimony and presentation of documents when requested by Congress.

So much to do.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
10. You CANNOT pass a Federal Law requiring tax returns to run for President...
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:41 PM
May 2020

...because we don’t have a Federal Presidential Election. Per the Constitution, each STATE decides how to select Electors (an Election isn’t even necessary).

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
15. They were thrown out by STATE Courts...
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:55 PM
May 2020

...doesn't mean that anything is possible at the Federal level.

Response to dajoki (Original post)

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
7. If that happens, the supreme court will be torn to pieces by the news media and the people.
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:37 PM
May 2020

The majority of the American people will know that decision puts Trump above the law, all future presidents above the law.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
8. Yeah, wont matter. Media will pay little attention to it like they do all the
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:39 PM
May 2020

vile crimes committed by the rumpster and the GOP.

Still torturing children on the border, getting sick etc.

Nothing is done.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
9. Question to those more learned than I,
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:40 PM
May 2020

been trying to keep up here while still working.

It seems by most accounts, the House attorney did not have his best day, (or as others have said, he stunk),

however, realistically how much weight is put on oral arguments vs. the briefs that were filed prior to the oral arguments?

Maraya1969

(22,477 posts)
12. I think you make a good point. How good is a Supreme Court if they make their decisions
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:47 PM
May 2020

based on how well an attorney argues their point?

SCOTUS is supposed to do their own research I would think and not be swayed by some impressive attorney. They are supposed to seek out the truth.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
19. Very little in most cases
Tue May 12, 2020, 01:05 PM
May 2020

And you can't always tell votes from questions asked.

Still I would be shocked at a decision requiring Trump to give up his tax returns. That was never going to happen. It only happens in a criminal trial after his presidency.

dalton99a

(81,450 posts)
11. Democrats must expand the court, or we will be under their veto power forever.
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:42 PM
May 2020

Get rid of the Senate filibuster, and add 5 or 6 seats

Amishman

(5,555 posts)
14. yes, we must ensure one party rule
Tue May 12, 2020, 12:49 PM
May 2020

then abolish the Republicans and all other opposition parties



I am so very not comfortable with court stacking.

I want a functional government with multiple viewpoints, not single party rule.

dalton99a

(81,450 posts)
16. A functional government that reflects the will of the majority of voters
Tue May 12, 2020, 01:00 PM
May 2020

not some bullshit 9-seat limitation that perpetuates minority rule

Amishman

(5,555 posts)
18. needs to be some continuity and checks
Tue May 12, 2020, 01:05 PM
May 2020

otherwise we wouldn't have three branches of government with separation of duties; instead we'd just pick a political party and let them decide the rest.

stacking the courts is a red line for me. I will not support it. Picking the best candidates for openings is fine, that is not abusing the system to usurp power. expanding and stacking the courts to seize power is just as fascist as the republicans voter suppression.

Fullduplexxx

(7,857 posts)
17. They are already stacked. dems adding to scotus would be merely a correcting
Tue May 12, 2020, 01:03 PM
May 2020

Of the republican court stacking

Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #17)

dalton99a

(81,450 posts)
25. Exactly. The Supreme Court is not some sacred temple of law and equity
Tue May 12, 2020, 01:12 PM
May 2020

it is a political institution.


Tarheel_Dem

(31,232 posts)
26. Perhaps the poster should have made clear that we need to "unstack" the courts. The GOP has...
Tue May 12, 2020, 01:12 PM
May 2020

been really busy doing just that since the 2016 election. So many unprecedented acts have taken place since Pukes took control of the Senate. It started with their refusal to even have hearings on PBO's nomination of Merrick Garland. Anything after that should make one feel less "not comfortable" with anything the Democrats do when/if they return to power.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
24. The legitimacy of the Roberts Court
Tue May 12, 2020, 01:11 PM
May 2020

Is about to be shredded beyond repair. I don’t know of a solution to a court that has become so obviously political but there is little if any reason to respect anything coming from that kangaroo court.

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