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Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:54 PM May 2020

Trump is now saying that his admin put together a better pandemic response plan than Obama.

Last edited Thu May 14, 2020, 03:11 PM - Edit history (1)

That the Obama Biden plan was insufficient. Last August, his administration put together a more detailed plan with a follow up, detailed report.

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In the image, Kayleigh McEnany holds Obama's plan in her right hand while holding Trump's plans in the binders in her left.

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Trump is now saying that his admin put together a better pandemic response plan than Obama. (Original Post) Yavin4 May 2020 OP
So let's see it, and if it's so good why aren't they using it? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #1
They are using it. Yavin4 May 2020 #6
They are. Comes with a demonstration video. JHB May 2020 #17
They must have lost the report in January, when it could have been useful. OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 #2
It's called Operation White Rabbit TheBlackAdder May 2020 #26
I think they wrote it yesterday. No way that they had a better plan than Obama's Raven May 2020 #3
When? Where is it? Roland99 May 2020 #4
I loved Kayleigh with the empty binders BannonsLiver May 2020 #5
Almost 86,000 dead. Corgigal May 2020 #7
"That Obama guy just left us millions of doses of this useless hydroxychloroquine shit!" struggle4progress May 2020 #8
Really? Where is that plan, Sir? gratuitous May 2020 #9
Kayleigh is going to brief the press about it tomorrow. n/t Yavin4 May 2020 #19
Step One ProfessorGAC May 2020 #23
The title of the Trump pandemic plan: madaboutharry May 2020 #10
His Hawaii investigators have it in a lockbox inside a basement vault in Chicago. mobeau69 May 2020 #11
guarded by a tiger 0rganism May 2020 #14
I think it's in the Pizza restaurant basement leftieNanner May 2020 #15
Prove it Dump. Until then, bullshit. cayugafalls May 2020 #12
Minor Point of order: Jarqui May 2020 #13
Isn't it funny that this so called plan just magically procon May 2020 #16
For some reason this just made me think of the Richard Gere number in Chicago Green Line May 2020 #18
This would have been a fun assignment genxlib May 2020 #20
... handmade34 May 2020 #21
Sure you did Donny. Sure you did. SledDriver May 2020 #22
Oh, so he DID have a plan all along! EarlG May 2020 #24
Because it's a contest superpatriotman May 2020 #25
And they just remembered it now. Mention of the Obama plan reminded them. - n/t Jim__ May 2020 #27
Sounds like more projecting lies duforsure May 2020 #28
Well then, where is it?? dreamland May 2020 #29
This is so insulting to America Mike 03 May 2020 #30
So now ... they can't blame Obama's plan for killing 100,000 people since they admitted they didn't uponit7771 May 2020 #31

OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)
2. They must have lost the report in January, when it could have been useful.
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:56 PM
May 2020

He is quadrupling down on his bullshit.

Raven

(13,889 posts)
3. I think they wrote it yesterday. No way that they had a better plan than Obama's
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:57 PM
May 2020

and didn't bring it out before now. No way.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. Really? Where is that plan, Sir?
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:00 PM
May 2020

He likes it when people call him "Sir."

Where is this marvelous plan? What does it say? Is the first step "Deny, ignore, deflect, sow doubt, and issue confusing and contradictory statements"? Because that's been the go-to strategy for months. The sacrifices people made since March have been utterly wasted by Trump, whether it was failing to act or acting against the advice of the experts and professionals. The American people bought him 10 weeks to get a coherent plan in place (to-wit: Testing, Tracing, and Isolating Infected Individuals), and Trump has squandered every last second we bought him on temper tantrums, revenge-seeking, whining, and some of the stupidest statements this side of the drunk guy at the end of the bar.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
23. Step One
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:35 PM
May 2020

Disband the early warning mechanisms in Asia & Europe!
We can't be paying people just in case something happens.
Yeah, that first step is working out just peachy!

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
10. The title of the Trump pandemic plan:
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:01 PM
May 2020

"How To Gaslight The Nation While Blaming A Black Man for Everything We Didn't Do!"

By Donald J. Trump and Kayleigh McEnany

mobeau69

(11,141 posts)
11. His Hawaii investigators have it in a lockbox inside a basement vault in Chicago.
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:01 PM
May 2020

Yeah, that’s the ticket.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
12. Prove it Dump. Until then, bullshit.
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:02 PM
May 2020

More distraction.

People died because of your lack of leadership, that is the only story. Focus, like a laser.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
13. Minor Point of order:
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:09 PM
May 2020

Trump's claim that his plan (that nobody has seen) is better than Obama's plan flies in the face of McConnell's lie that Obama did not provide Trump with a plan.

And of course, where is the plan the lying Senate Leader is operating with ... ?

procon

(15,805 posts)
16. Isn't it funny that this so called plan just magically
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:21 PM
May 2020

appeared out of thin air today? We never heard Trump of any of his minions ever mention they had any such response plan since the virus arrived in January. So here we are 5 months later and Trump suddenly remembers he had a plan?

I can't wait to hear the excuses on this one!

Green Line

(1,123 posts)
18. For some reason this just made me think of the Richard Gere number in Chicago
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:26 PM
May 2020

The entire trump administration is about "give em the old razzle dazzle"

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
20. This would have been a fun assignment
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:29 PM
May 2020

OK, write a response manual that looks like it was done years ago but somehow outlines all of the various positions we have held including all of the fuck-ups.

Never mind, just put a wad of blank paper in a binder and wave it around. Make sure to mark it classified so no one can actually see it.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
21. ...
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:31 PM
May 2020
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/crimson-contagion-2019-simulation-warned-of-pandemic-implications-in-us/2243832/


In Chicago, back in August 2019, federal agencies conducted a mock drill to see how the nation would handle a pandemic, specifically a deadly global outbreak with no known cure. The exercise pointed to a number of national shortcomings, including an insufficient amount of medical supplies.
It is called the 'Crimson Contagion 2019 Functional Exercise' and is marked not for distribution. The New York Times was the first to report and publish it.
This was an exercise about the flu, not the coronavirus, but the document points to specific problematic areas for a hypothetical outbreak that, prophetically, begins in China and lands in Chicago.



https://www.justsecurity.org/69650/timeline-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic-and-u-s-response/


The Department of Health and Human Services concludes its “Crimson Contagion” simulation in August. The exercise simulated a U.S. response to a fictitious respiratory virus that began in China and quickly spread around the world. The result of the exercise, contained in an internal draft report in October 2019 and marked “Draft Do Not Distribute,” includes a section titled “resources.” The section foregrounds the lack of PPE preparedness in the event of a global pandemic and problems in the supply chain for medical equipment including ventilators and other ancillary medical supplies.

EarlG

(21,945 posts)
24. Oh, so he DID have a plan all along!
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:37 PM
May 2020

His plan was to call the virus a hoax, tell everyone that it would magically go away, make no preparations, do a half-assed travel ban on Chinese nationals, then once the outbreak got out of control tell governors that it's their problem, refuse to take responsibility, tell everyone to go back to work, and then cover up the actual death toll.

And there was me thinking that he didn't know what he was doing, but it turns out that it was all done on purpose. Okay then.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
28. Sounds like more projecting lies
Thu May 14, 2020, 02:12 PM
May 2020

Just like he claimed we'd have a better , cheaper lower costing affordable health care plan. It was just more of trump going on another lying spree. Just like the new middle class tax cuts he claimed of before the 2018 elections , and like his claims he would not cut Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security, then did in the 2017 tax scam bill he signed. His lying is escalating out of control now.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
30. This is so insulting to America
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:42 PM
May 2020

It's only because 33% of our population is so irredeemably stupid he can get away with even attempting this. The sheer cynicism you'd have to be capable of to sit around a table and think of these things.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
31. So now ... they can't blame Obama's plan for killing 100,000 people since they admitted they didn't
Thu May 14, 2020, 05:20 PM
May 2020

... follow it.

They're this stupid.

All they had to say is we followed Obama's plan and its failed us ...

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