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Celerity

(43,048 posts)
Fri May 15, 2020, 08:05 AM May 2020

NYT: Talking Can Generate Coronavirus Droplets That Linger Up to 14 Minutes

A new study shows how respiratory droplets produced during normal conversation may be just as important in transmitting disease, especially indoors.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/14/health/coronavirus-infections.html



Coughs or sneezes may not be the only way people transmit infectious pathogens like the novel coronavirus to one another. Talking can also launch thousands of droplets so small they can remain suspended in the air for eight to 14 minutes, according to a new study. The research, published Wednesday in The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, could help explain how people with mild or no symptoms may infect others in close quarters such as offices, nursing homes, cruise ships and other confined spaces. The study’s experimental conditions will need to be replicated in more real-world circumstances, and researchers still don’t know how much virus has to be transmitted from one person to another to cause infection. But its findings strengthen the case for wearing masks and taking other precautions in such environments to reduce the spread of the coronavirus.

Scientists agree that the coronavirus jumps from person to person most often by hitching a ride inside tiny respiratory droplets. These droplets tend to fall to the ground within a few feet of the person who emits them. They may land on surfaces like doorknobs, where people can touch lingering virus particles and transfer them to their face. But some droplets can remain aloft, and be inhaled by others. Elaborate experiments have revealed how coughing or sneezing can produce a crackling burst of air mixed with saliva or mucus that can force hundreds of millions of influenza and other virus particles into the air if a person is sick. A single cough can propel about 3,000 respiratory droplets, while sneezing can generate as many as 40,000.

To see how many droplets are produced during normal conversation, researchers at the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases and the University of Pennsylvania, who study the kinetics of biological molecules inside the human body, asked volunteers to repeat the words “stay healthy” several times. While the participants spoke into the open end of a cardboard box, the researchers illuminated its inside with green lasers, and tracked bursts of droplets produced by the speaker. The laser scans showed that about 2,600 small droplets were produced per second while talking. When researchers projected the amount and size of droplets produced at different volumes based on previous studies, they found that speaking louder could generate larger droplets, as well as greater quantities of them.



Although the scientists did not record speech droplets produced by people who were sick, previous studies have calculated exactly how much coronavirus genetic material can be found in oral fluids in the average patient. Based on this knowledge, the researchers estimated that a single minute of loud speaking could generate at least 1,000 virus-containing droplets. The scientists also found that while droplets start shrinking from dehydration as soon as they leave a person’s mouth, they can still float in the air for eight to 14 minutes. “These observations confirm that there is a substantial probability that normal speaking causes airborne virus transmission in confined environments,” the authors wrote in the study.

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NYT: Talking Can Generate Coronavirus Droplets That Linger Up to 14 Minutes (Original Post) Celerity May 2020 OP
I'd like to see this study repeated greymattermom May 2020 #1
Especially when you can't keep your tongue in you mouth C_U_L8R May 2020 #2
that fake pic got a Seattle news editor sacked Celerity May 2020 #4
Google is overflowing with flapping Trump tongues. C_U_L8R May 2020 #6
+1. There are plenty of real ones dalton99a May 2020 #8
Yep, Maxheader May 2020 #3
and masks would not stop it from going in your eye Celerity May 2020 #5
A really good post.. Maxheader May 2020 #7
That's why I wear a mask. theaocp May 2020 #9

Celerity

(43,048 posts)
4. that fake pic got a Seattle news editor sacked
Fri May 15, 2020, 08:26 AM
May 2020

Fox of course

Seattle TV station FIRES editor after video emerges showing orange-toned Trump with his tongue hanging out while delivering Oval Office address

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6578817/Seattle-TV-editor-fired-Trump-video-appears-altered.html

C_U_L8R

(44,977 posts)
6. Google is overflowing with flapping Trump tongues.
Fri May 15, 2020, 08:34 AM
May 2020

I think this one is real. Say it, don't spray it.

Maxheader

(4,369 posts)
3. Yep,
Fri May 15, 2020, 08:21 AM
May 2020

From sneezing, from smoke, airborne pollution...tiny invisible to the naked eye.

All transportation for corona...

theaocp

(4,231 posts)
9. That's why I wear a mask.
Fri May 15, 2020, 08:47 AM
May 2020

It's for the people around me. It's why I tell my students we're silent in the hallways: it's for those AROUND us. We are a selfish bunch of assholes, aren't we? Jesu.

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