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TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
Tue May 19, 2020, 01:42 PM May 2020

Woman behind 'Roe v. Wade' said in 'deathbed confession' that conservatives paid her to lie.

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“Jane Roe,” the plaintiff in the landmark 1973 Supreme Court ruling legalizing abortion, admitted in a deathbed confession that she faked her conversion later in life to oppose legal abortion.

Norma McCorvey, who died in 2017, became known as Jane Roe after suing for the right to get a legal and safe abortion in Texas, made the stunning confession in the upcoming FX documentary “AKA Jane Roe,” reported The Daily Beast.

“This is my deathbed confession,” McCorvey chuckles in the film.

Director Nick Sweeney asks whether the evangelical movement used her as a trophy, and McCorvey agrees she was “the big fish,” but admits she also got something out of the arrangement.

“I think it was a mutual thing,” she told the filmmaker. “I took their money and they took me out in front of the cameras and told me what to say. That’s what I’d say.”

“I’m a good actress,” she added. “Of course, I’m not acting now.”


More at the jump:

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/woman-behind-roe-v-wade-said-in-a-deathbed-confession-that-conservatives-paid-her-to-lie-about-her-conversion/



That answers a lot.

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Woman behind 'Roe v. Wade' said in 'deathbed confession' that conservatives paid her to lie. (Original Post) TheBlackAdder May 2020 OP
Unfortunately, the damage is done RhodeIslandOne May 2020 #1
yep. reversing the reversal. and ... stopdiggin May 2020 #9
Yeah, that's a bad look too. RhodeIslandOne May 2020 #37
Best reply. sellitman May 2020 #56
Surprise Surprise Surprise montanacowboy May 2020 #2
Kick dalton99a May 2020 #3
Well, I'm glad she finds it funny. Maru Kitteh May 2020 #4
Everyone can be bought. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #5
That is not true. SamKnause May 2020 #7
Bullshit Jake Stern May 2020 #11
Name my price... Harker May 2020 #13
I couldn't tell you Jake Stern May 2020 #14
I'm priceless. Harker May 2020 #15
I agree. I have a price. Aristus May 2020 #25
I'm sorry about the corroded state of your soul, but that's your choice. nt Hekate May 2020 #43
In a way that is true DIVINEprividence May 2020 #49
1st fallacy of logic 101: Grins May 2020 #57
You may have a price, and others who have demonstrated by their actions Ms. Toad May 2020 #60
Money has never motivated me to kill anyone or fuck anyone. hunter May 2020 #61
I'd sell you out for a yearly bus pass and a pack of cigarettes lame54 May 2020 #22
It's true about my community. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #38
yeah. prison's a bitch (nt) stopdiggin May 2020 #45
? Baitball Blogger May 2020 #54
The people who CAN be bought are scared to death of the people who CANNOT be bought. hunter May 2020 #62
But on a local level, the struggle is real. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #63
My wife and I have lived and worked in areas with serious gang problems for more than thirty years. hunter May 2020 #65
"The U.S.A. has never been the nation it purports to be." Baitball Blogger May 2020 #66
Not everyone UpInArms May 2020 #8
A couple million bucks can go a long way toward changing someone's point of view Jake Stern May 2020 #12
You don't know that Downtown Hound May 2020 #17
Actually, all things being even, Cartaphelius May 2020 #21
Whatever Downtown Hound May 2020 #28
It's your story, Cartaphelius May 2020 #68
meaning ?? stopdiggin May 2020 #46
Tell us yours. ret5hd May 2020 #18
Ah, yes Hekate May 2020 #44
Even George Soros can't afford me. paleotn May 2020 #20
Prices dont always come in dollars quakerboy May 2020 #47
I hear the same when someone cheats on their partner. Every one has the potential to be a cheater. LizBeth May 2020 #30
+1 uponit7771 May 2020 #39
No, not everybody's greedy about money. betsuni May 2020 #42
For some the price of betrayal is a rat DBoon May 2020 #64
As the Hair Furor's theme song says... superpatriotman May 2020 #6
The documentary "AKA Jane Roe" airs this Friday at 9:00 p.m. on FX PA Democrat May 2020 #10
The anti-choice right loves to exploit hurting people, and what they did to Norma McCorvey is WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #16
Evilgelicals doing what evilgelicals do. paleotn May 2020 #19
If you can't win the game honestly just lie, lie ,.. and lie some more,... then cheat, cheat,... magicarpet May 2020 #24
For them, the end (a fascist society that agrees with THEM) justifies the means. BlancheSplanchnik May 2020 #48
Evilgelicals! Love it! Stealing it! niyad May 2020 #52
I am shocked SHOCKED to find gambling on here. nycbos May 2020 #23
Apparently her price was less than the price of some eyebrow transplants. BamaRefugee May 2020 #26
Q'uelle surprise LymphocyteLover May 2020 #27
I hooe they show the doc frequently Warpy May 2020 #29
Can this admission be used in any future challenge to Roe vs Wade? LiberalLovinLug May 2020 #31
Check out the Documentray Marjoe. KWR65 May 2020 #32
k&r DesertRat May 2020 #33
Have fun in Hell. (Nt) FreepFryer May 2020 #34
There are ten levels of hell dreamland May 2020 #35
K&R demmiblue May 2020 #36
I wonder if she ever told them she was a lesbian TexasBushwhacker May 2020 #40
I might be convinced everyone has a price to Captain Zero May 2020 #41
This appalls me... RobertDevereaux May 2020 #50
The friend who told me about this said that Nick was verifying everything before releasing it. niyad May 2020 #53
Moral relativity. What else is there to say? 0nirevets May 2020 #51
I went to her wiki, and found this article as a footnote irisblue May 2020 #55
K&R PunkinPi May 2020 #58
Wait a minute. Ligyron May 2020 #59
A just society wouldn't allow that to happen. hunter May 2020 #67
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
1. Unfortunately, the damage is done
Tue May 19, 2020, 01:45 PM
May 2020

Changing one's story again?

I thought this documentary was going to herald her as a "pro-life" (anti-choice) warrior or some such thing, but whatever.

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
9. yep. reversing the reversal. and ...
Tue May 19, 2020, 02:19 PM
May 2020
“I’m a good actress,” she added. “Of course, I’m not acting now.”

Umm hmm .. reaches over and changes channel ..

On the other hand .. the idea that this ever had anything to do with a single person or character ... That's all geared toward the third grade crowd anyway.
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
37. Yeah, that's a bad look too.
Tue May 19, 2020, 05:46 PM
May 2020

It’s okay ma’am. Many young women and unwanted children will suffer for your acting.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
11. Bullshit
Tue May 19, 2020, 02:30 PM
May 2020

EVERYBODY has a price.

I have a price.

You have a price.

Obama has a price.

Pelosi has a price.

Trump has a price.

The Pope has a price.

The exact amount is the only thing that's uncertain.



 

DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
49. In a way that is true
Wed May 20, 2020, 07:05 AM
May 2020

However, to be fair, our legislative process is set up that way, horse trading and deal making to build majority coalitions. Not a perfect system perhaps but it is the what it is. This is why “idealists” can’t make it as politicians because we all have a price as you say

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
60. You may have a price, and others who have demonstrated by their actions
Wed May 20, 2020, 12:05 PM
May 2020

that they have been bought - or those who acknowledge they they have a price obviously have prices.

But you really can't know whether anyone else has a price or not.

hunter

(38,302 posts)
61. Money has never motivated me to kill anyone or fuck anyone.
Wed May 20, 2020, 12:22 PM
May 2020

That should make you happy.

Whenever I have too much money I give it away to someone who needs it. My wife and I are currently sending a lot of money to our local food bank and relatives who have been furloughed by the pandemic.

I suppose I could be driving a Tesla, but I'm partial to $1000 used Toyotas.

If someone gave me a new car, any kind of new car, I'd give it away like a hot potato to someone who cared.

Seriously. I don't want to support the world or national economy. This thing we call "economic productivity" isn't productivity at all. It is in fact a direct measure of the damage we are doing to our planet's natural environment, the environment that supports us all, and our own human spirit.

Maybe you are talking about "prices" other than money, but that always ends up as some bullshit language of violence, destruction, and mayhem.

Somebody paying the "ultimate price" for their nation, blah, blah, blah.

If fewer people were stupid nationalists, or racists, or violent religionists, that shit wouldn't happen.

Baitball Blogger

(46,682 posts)
54. ?
Wed May 20, 2020, 10:02 AM
May 2020

Is that a mean-spirited comment? Your sarcasm tag does nothing to hide that evil dig, which is unwarranted. Very off base and a very pollyanna attitude to think every community is going to be manageable.

Here, where I live, the things that define my opinion were wrapped up in a lawsuit that won a developer two million dollars from this city, and another three million from attorneys that he identified because he felt they interfered with his vested rights. They did. His lawsuit would explain how the community leaders played dirty and the City wasn't exactly stellar in following best practices. In fact, the lawsuit would show how they did quite a bit of their promises outside of the public view, through contracts that were forced negotiations because of previous lawsuit--or through private conversations made with the City Attorney.

What the lawsuit revealed was a social network that tipped the scales into conspiracy and business interference It was an interesting lawsuit to read. Exactly the kind of mean spirited behavior you would expect to find when a group of "community leaders" saw profit in kicking out a developer. What they were trying to do, would not have been a selfless venture. In addition, what they did required a massive misinformation campaign in order to mount support in their favor. Much in the same way that Trump defames people, these people were character assassinators against anyone that stood in their way.

Both Republicans and Democrats were involved, because, where there's money, people get induced. In fact, one of the main Democratic leaders of this attempt to commandeer private land tried to run for office in a primary against an incumbent Democrat. His platform was not a typical Democratic one. This was not an ideal situation, having one kind of Democrat running against another kind of Democrat. The challenger was a chamber-of-commerce style Democrat, which is to say, as close to a Republican as someone can get. His friends, that helped "spread his story" in the community, were Republican. Steny Hoyer and Nancy Pelosi tried to see if he was interested in steering his ambition to another seat and he accused them of bribing him! He provided fodder for right-wing paper. What kind of real Democrat does that? He would only get two percent of the vote.

And I got to see, first-hand, how a good ole boy community operates. I tried to get involved, starting with ex-commissioners who knew the problems and tried to address the situation through a Charter Review update, which was legally mandated. Much like Trump's style, the City ignored proper government process and did not tend to the review when it should have. So someone else in the community began a grassroots attempt to update it, and I was asked to join.

After a few promising meetings, one of the "civilians" showed me the problem we're faced with. Hey, he said. I can no longer come to the meetings because the City has offered to turn my building into a city historical landmark. See that? That's how it works around here. At least he explained why he was dropping out. Most people just get "induced" and start to avoid me. I never know why, until gossip comes my way to give me some background.

In the end, our citizen-generated Charter review was co-opted by the city and the good ole boys in the community. In fact, it was already co-opted when they came to ask me for my help. I just didn't know it. One of the main good buddies of the community was banking us, which really only consisted of buying a dozen binders and paper so we could be on the same page, going line-by-line through the Charter and all of us knew which statements were being revised, and why.

None of it would matter in the end. They tossed the old charter out, and adopted a completely new one that I imagine worked better for the City, and the good ole boy usual suspects, and made it harder for community grassroots movements.

And that was just one experience of many.

It would really be kind if you show you understand that my opinion was based on very painful experiences that continually get repeated. Just say that you respect my experiences, even if you don't agree with my conclusions.

hunter

(38,302 posts)
62. The people who CAN be bought are scared to death of the people who CANNOT be bought.
Wed May 20, 2020, 12:52 PM
May 2020

They will even reassure themselves with the delusion that "everyone has a price."

Ronald Reagan would do or say anything for a blow job.

Jimmy Carter would not.

Whoever can't be bought, the Republicans, the "Chamber of Commerce Democrats" and the good old boys will attempt to destroy.

Besides the usual racism, the fact that Obama couldn't be bought or blackmailed drove the Republican Party bat shit huffing insane.

Baitball Blogger

(46,682 posts)
63. But on a local level, the struggle is real.
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:04 PM
May 2020

Every day you have to find a way to control your anxiety level when your kids go to school because you just don’t know what these people are capable of, until you do.

hunter

(38,302 posts)
65. My wife and I have lived and worked in areas with serious gang problems for more than thirty years.
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:23 PM
May 2020

Maybe we choose the level we're comfortable playing on; of resisting.

When I confront some kids painting gang graffiti on my back wall I don't go all Dirty Harry on them. I don't even call the cops. (Not that they'd come out for something so trivial...)

I do use my "teacher" or "dad" voice however, a survival skill that was hard won first when I was teaching, and later when I had my own children.

Everyone here is anxious for their children. It's one reason parent's are supportive of school uniforms in elementary and middle schools, and strict high school dress codes. No parent wants their kid to suffer violence for wearing the "wrong" clothes, not even parents who ARE gangsters.

I'm intensely aware that the "good old boys" in some communities are just another sort of gang. When I was age 16-26 I did a lot of rough travelling and saw some truly scary shit. My wife and I didn't travel nearly so rough when we had children yet we still witnessed some scary stuff. (I wouldn't pick exclusively on the South either. There are places here in California that thoroughly reek of white good old boy corruption.)

The U.S.A. has never been the nation it purports to be. We've always ignored certain sorts and certain levels of corruption, even romanticizing it, while falsely comparing ourselves to "first world" nations that suffer much lower levels of corruption.

Baitball Blogger

(46,682 posts)
66. "The U.S.A. has never been the nation it purports to be."
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:28 PM
May 2020

That's a fact. I'm only interested in cataloging the corrupt society that I have observed, here in Central Florida. Because simply put, it is backroom community that steals our American dreams.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
12. A couple million bucks can go a long way toward changing someone's point of view
Tue May 19, 2020, 02:32 PM
May 2020

I didn't say she'd come cheap but even Greta has her price.

 

Cartaphelius

(868 posts)
21. Actually, all things being even,
Tue May 19, 2020, 02:59 PM
May 2020

it arrogant to assume to know what others know and
them based upon your assumption judge them by
your standards....

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
28. Whatever
Tue May 19, 2020, 03:31 PM
May 2020

I'm perfectly capable of forming an opinion of someone who proceeds to think they know something about a person without even knowing that person. If that makes me arrogant than so be it. Personally, I see it as having enough humility and decency to actually wait until I truly know a person before making a blanket statement such as "everybody has a price."

In other words, I see it as the opposite of arrogance. It's an admission that you don't automatically know things about a person you've never met..

 

Cartaphelius

(868 posts)
68. It's your story,
Wed May 27, 2020, 01:59 PM
May 2020

so you can tell it however you like.

But that means, "your story", once shared, personally
endorsed and self-justified, becomes, itself a "whatever"
story relevant only to yourself as you are the only one
living in your head.

Thanks for posting though. Nice to see Trump logic
applied and demonstrated through your pretzel logic
lens.

paleotn

(17,881 posts)
20. Even George Soros can't afford me.
Tue May 19, 2020, 02:59 PM
May 2020

And according to the reichwing, he's got more money than a Bond villain.

But I do get your point. My counter point is some folks would have a difficult time living with themselves and will renege sooner or later.

quakerboy

(13,916 posts)
47. Prices dont always come in dollars
Wed May 20, 2020, 06:53 AM
May 2020

What would Greta do for a true policy to reverse climate change? Its a steep price, to be sure, but there are precious few that dont have some sort of "price". Not all costs are in dollars, nor are they all purely personal gain. Be it our family, friends, community, pet project, ideological goal, etc.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
30. I hear the same when someone cheats on their partner. Every one has the potential to be a cheater.
Tue May 19, 2020, 03:41 PM
May 2020

That is a sure way of appeasing conscience when one does something wrong.

betsuni

(25,376 posts)
42. No, not everybody's greedy about money.
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:36 AM
May 2020

That's ridiculous. There are plenty of other things to be greedy about, everyone's a little different that way.

The idea that everyone is politics can be, or is, bought is absurd. Don't know what the goal of saying everyone is corrupt is. I guess just to make young people cynical and feel helpless and angry.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
10. The documentary "AKA Jane Roe" airs this Friday at 9:00 p.m. on FX
Tue May 19, 2020, 02:22 PM
May 2020
ABOUT THE SHOW

AKA Jane Roe is a portrait of Norma McCorvey, the “Jane Roe” whose unwanted pregnancy led to the 1973 case that legalized abortion nationwide, Roe v. Wade. The documentary unravels the mysteries closely guarded by McCorvey throughout her life.

Considered too divisive and unpredictable by many in the pro-choice movement, McCorvey stunned the world in 1995 when she switched sides to crusade against her own case, as an anti-abortion firebrand.

Norma McCorvey died of heart failure on February 18, 2017, at the age of 69. Now, in never-before-seen final interviews, McCorvey gives a startling deathbed confession. In candid one-on-one interviews, filmed across the last year of her life, McCorvey reveals the truth behind her astonishing story. Also featured are friends of McCorvey’s and key figures from both sides of the abortion fight.

Behind the sensational headlines and furious public debate for and against abortion lies the enigmatic Texas woman whose case started it all: Norma McCorvey.



https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/aka-jane-roe

magicarpet

(14,119 posts)
24. If you can't win the game honestly just lie, lie ,.. and lie some more,... then cheat, cheat,...
Tue May 19, 2020, 03:12 PM
May 2020

... and cheat some more.

Fuck Jesus even though you profess to be a devout follower. Lie and cheat behind his back,.. because deep in your heart you know you could give a sweet fuck about Christians,.. your only concern is to advance your Fascist agendas over society.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
48. For them, the end (a fascist society that agrees with THEM) justifies the means.
Wed May 20, 2020, 06:58 AM
May 2020

God wants fascism. Therefore, anything and everything to that end is A-OK.

Warpy

(111,140 posts)
29. I hooe they show the doc frequently
Tue May 19, 2020, 03:35 PM
May 2020

and shop it out to other outlets.

I always thought her conversion smelled funny and now I'm proven correct. It was sudden and just a little too thorough.

She had a tough life, the USSC decision coming too late for her and causing her to endure forced pregnancy and childbirth. Scars from that are deep, painful, and last a lifetime.

At least it's out now and proving once again how corrupt and morally bankrupt the "Christian" far right is now and always has been.

You know, like we already didn't know from personal experience with them.

dreamland

(964 posts)
35. There are ten levels of hell
Tue May 19, 2020, 04:20 PM
May 2020

I doubt she'll get past any one of them based on what she did and how it affected countless numbers of people.

Captain Zero

(6,783 posts)
41. I might be convinced everyone has a price to
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:11 AM
May 2020

Shut up or be quiet.
But I'm not sure everyone has a price to take a diametrically opposite view and espouse it.

Ligyron

(7,616 posts)
59. Wait a minute.
Wed May 20, 2020, 11:48 AM
May 2020

What am I missing here?

This woman got abortion legalized, why all the hate? The good she did far outdid a fake "conversion" nobody with half a brain cared about or even suspected was real. I'll admit, I need to go back and read up on this as maybe I'm jumping the gun here replying.

Still, for those who are so principled they imagine themselves resisting all temptation, given the right set of circumstances do you truly imagine yourselves immune?

What if somehow you ended up dead broke through no fault of your own and your husband, wife or child needed an operation only the filthy lucre would pay for?

Anybody who would allow a significant other to die, perhaps painfully, rather than fake a religious conversion has their priorities a bit out of wack IMHO.

hunter

(38,302 posts)
67. A just society wouldn't allow that to happen.
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:57 PM
May 2020

Our society doesn't give a damn if certain people die of hunger, homelessness, or lack of appropriate medical care.

A just society wouldn't ban abortions.

A just society wouldn't tolerate an "everyone has their price" ethos.

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