Don't let this bullshit fool you (states opening)

[CatWoman]

Some of you here already know I am a CDC employee.

I've been teleworking full time since March.

Today we got word that we will remain working from home for the foreseeable future -- probably until the end of the year.

Our buildings are closed to us and the public.

Trump's road to normalcy is full of mine fields. And bullshit.

[HotTeaBag]

1. I concur - I work tangentially in the financial services industry

and most everyone is chalking 2020 up to be a lost year.

Opening Mom & Pop barbershops and such will be a very small drop in a very big bucket.

[CatWoman]

3. not to mention needlessly exposing those employees at risk

[StClone]

38. The only change is that things are opening up, not the end of the pandemic.

[KPN]

51. BINGO!

[Shanti Mama]

2. I'm not a public health pro, but...

I believe wholeheartedly that you are right. I know it. I think many people are going through a phase of feeling hopeful. Then great emotional depression will take hold as we all settle into a difficult new normal.

[underpants]

4. No official word here but it's looking like August

Big discussion meeting today. I was mistakenly invited then miss invited. June 10th is the set date for us but it’s looking like at least past the 4th. Probably August.

Public sector as well just not Federal

[aggiesal]

28. The company I work for, wants to open up on June 1st. ...

Not really happy about that.

[pwb]

5. Look for fake staged lines and crowds to get the deplorables out.

They believe anything.

[gibraltar72]

6. What reopening means for Dem states is we have an ICU room available for you.

What it means in Red states, we didn't give a shit about you and we still don't.

[cynical_idealist]

15. good summary

1

[Wounded Bear]

7. Already seeing spikes in cases and deaths in states rushing to re-open...

I believe you.

This ain't over yet, not by a long shot.

[Blue_true]

17. Most people don't want to play Russian roulette with their lives.

A person may be asymptomatic and not notice that the virus infected him or her, or a person may end up on a ventilator, fighting for his or her life, guaranteed of having lifelong disability if lucky enough to survive.

[Wounded Bear]

18. You're underestimating the "hold my beer" crowd...

[CatWoman]

19. Brazilian health officials are clashing with Bolsonaro

as he's trying to follow the Trump play book.

Their health officials want no part of it.

[Blue_true]

27. The thing that I don't get, and I am sure that it is driving your colleagues insane,

is why does Trump do something that he is telling Americans isn't needed. It looks like everyone at the White House that come near Trump gets tested daily and it looks like are now wearing MASKS. Those people would not be doing any of that unless Trump demanded it be done to protect his ass. Yet, he won't come out and say that ALL Americans should wear a mask over their mouth and nose when in public. The lunacy of his behavior defies all logic, even more astounding is that MAGATS are blind to the choices that Trump is making for his personal safety.

[CatWoman]

33. hey

I'm okay with thinning the herd

[Blue_true]

35. If it was only them dying, I would just say "karma" and go to other things.

But a lot of good, decent people have died and will die because of those idiots and their emperor.

[CatWoman]

39. true

very true

[barbtries]

69. he only cares about himself.

he thinks he can get the economy recharged by getting people out spending money. when the next wave comes it will only be worse, not to mention that many people are not going to go back to normal life any time soon, not to mention that millions of people's personal economies are already in the toilet.

he doesn't care about any of that. it's ironic, tragic, and absolutely disgusting.

[Blue_true]

72. MAGATS are charged up to re-elect him. We have to soundly defeat them. We can't lose sight of that

[barbtries]

73. never.

also russia and likely other foreign nations, and they will cheat. we need huge numbers to win.

[DENVERPOPS]

63. Agreed WB

Not by a very long shot. In fact, the next wave may far exceed anything that we have seen so far.
This virus appears immune to political rhetoric and takes no prisoners...

People will relax, just as if it was a long illness, and then WHAM.....

I, for one, am beginning to think about preparations for the next 6-12 months and procuring what might be needed for an extended period......

Time to dig in folks. Nothing we can do will help us prepare for the horror show of politics that surrounds us. But we sure as hell can prepare for an extended health lock down......

Just saying.......

[PJMcK]

8. Thanks for your insight

I wondered about those of you working on this.

If you haven't read Tom Friedman's column in today's NY Times, I highly recommend it. He writes that we're dealing with Mother Nature who only cares about adaptability. By reopening too early, we're going to see spikes of new cases all over the country.

It's distressing to see how many Americans reject Science and Logic. The denial of the dangers of Covid-19 parallel those of climate change.

I fear for our future.

[CatWoman]

34. heading over to read it right now

thanks

[underpants]

40. There is a crowd that will continue to go out even if they get it

They are so sold on it being a lie, a scheme, a hoax that they will never admit they were the victim of the lie. Unless they are hospitalized they will “tough it out”.

[Pluvious]

56. No kidding !! Just read this tweet from celebrity Kirstie Alley...

( trigger warning )

Link to tweet

48.4k Likes

Im driving cross country... had to for essential business... gotta say it’s very weird . It’s actually psychotic that we would shut down a country/world for this shit. When we wake up and see how crazy this actually was we’re gonna be really pissed

[CottonBear]

60. She's a Scientologist. N/ T

[underpants]

61. Yeah I thought exactly the same.

[underpants]

62. Says the cult member. N/t

[niyad]

65. Used to enjoy some of her work. As of 10 seconds ago, . . Never again.

[CatWoman]

74. My own cousin just got out of the hospital, after a two week stay

he's in Tidewater (Portsmouth), VA.

That's where the bulk of my immediate family resides.

Thank God they have a responsible governor.

[jimfields33]

9. I heard some companies and maybe even some government agencies

May do telework forever. I think that would be so great for everything especially the environment. I hope 60 percent decide to sell their buildings and telework. Maybe they can rent out a hotel ballroom once a month for a meeting once safe of course.

[Boomer]

53. My company is strongly advising to continue working@home

In fact, we have to get permission from a managing director to return to any office (we're global) once that region is officially opening up.

I'm incredibly thankful that I work for a company that is letting us make that decision, because I'm in a high-risk group (65 with compromised lung function). I've resigned myself to staying socially isolated for at least the next year, and may possibly end up working@home until I retire.

[bedazzled]

10. Left my job at a thrift in FL because i don't want to DIE

Called office today to get my off payroll date and they are all "working from home." No callback. Scum

[Solly Mack]

11. K&R

[StarryNite]

12. Thank you.

[Pobeka]

13. Powderkeg. That's what opening up is going to be. n/t

[hunter]

14. This virus isn't going to go away. The Republican plan is to ignore the deaths.

Step aside heart disease and cancer, this virus will be the leading cause of death for at least the next year or two.

I hope I'm wrong.

[Blue_true]

21. Republicans are hoping that people have a short memory and ignore the mounting deaths.

And for some Americans, republicans may be betting in the right direction. I don't know whether it was here on DU or in general news reading, a gym owner in New Jersey defied the state and reopened his gym, even AFTER losing a close family member to covid19, so that type is out there, the question is how many are there.

[hunter]

26. A shocking number of people WANT their parents and grandparents to die.

They are hoping to get their stuff.

They never learn until it's too late that stuff is nothing, if they ever learn at all.

What did Trump get from his parents?

Nothing.

What are Trump's children going to get from him?

Nothing.

Anything you can't keep in your head or in your heart is nothing.

[Blue_true]

32. I am afraid that your first sentence is true for two reasons.

Greedy younger people thinking the olsters will be killed off by covid19 and the youngsters will get the spoils. Racists seeing more POC dying, so they have concluded that reopening will hasten their main fever dream, a world without POC. But karma is such that greed and racism don't win out longterm, in fact they face massive defeat over and over in time.

[wiggs]

31. How will we know if there's a spike in actual infections? There's going to be that much

testing? But hasn't the WH, CDC, and task force moved on from virus to economy?

And even if there's testing, will there be accurate reporting? We know Florida isn't reporting accurately. We know Trump feels China and Russia are under-reporting so why not him?

Too much, I'm reminded of the movie Three Days of the Condor in which the final line of the movie is 'how do you know they'll print it?' Meaning earth-shattering news that doesn't get reported doesn't exist.

[hunter]

42. Counting corpses isn't complicated. It requires no fancy medical tests.

If we're not counting corpses everything is FUBAR. Our nation is dead.

[Ace Rothstein]

57. We'll see if hospitals get overrun.

[DesertRat]

16. k&r

[progressoid]

20. Has the White House opened up for tours yet?

[SunSeeker]

30. Good question. nt

[CatWoman]

50. NO

And neither are the governors mansions in Georgia and Florida -- homes of the first states to reopen

[niyad]

66. Ah, thank you for reminding me. Daily nuisance call time.

[uponit7771]

58. +1, and no MAGA Rallies

[Karadeniz]

22. Good to hear from the trenched...thanks!

[JDC]

23. My very large office is officially closed until at least Sept 8

And will likely extend. Just got as notified last week.

WFH is not new to most of us though. We've always had that flexibility

[alwaysinasnit]

24. K&R Thank you CatWoman.

[bucolic_frolic]

25. I agree with that

What I see is improved over a month ago in public traffic, but people are sometimes a bit lazy with the distancing. We're not returning to normal, we're learning to do somewhat better with the prudent restrictions we need to use to avoid illness.

[SunSeeker]

29. Thank you. November 3 can't come soon enough. nt

[gademocrat7]

36. Thank you, CatWoman.

I agree with you.

[wiggs]

37. You are correct, I wonder how many people in charge at all levels actually have

INDIVIDUALS' interests at heart? Yes, we know more now, we are more prepared, more people are wearing gear...but the risk to individuals is still significant. As significant as two months ago, really. I'm happy for the larger community that we have flattened the curve for now. I'm still unhappy for the individuals who have the misfortune to contract this beast of a virus.

Because of the lockdown in California, I had more recently believed that the spread had been limited...that every fourth or fifth person wasn't contagious as serious hot spots can be...that incidence was fairly rare in Orange County. Now, we are back to thinking that we don't really know how many people have become contagious during the last week or two of beach openings and the like. I've driven through several of these beach communities and it is clear some are careful, some are not at all. it feels like just before the lockdown...we just don't know what is going on. As Fauci said, whatever we see is going on we are two weeks behind the virus reality.

If there is testing and reporting, perhaps in a week or two we will know if cases are on the upswing again. Until then...trying not to forget and get more relaxed with protocol. If there isn't testing and reporting then we just need good luck.

[FakeNoose]

41. Hopefully by the end of 2020 - we're looking at a new Democratic President

Now THAT'S something to look forward to!

[Roc2020]

43. Trump is ambushed from both sides.

opening up do not mean people are going to a restaurant dine in or shopping or doing economical activities to get back to January 2020 economy. and if people do go out to do those activities, it's mostly going to be his supporters who run the risk of catching the virus and dying.

[vapor2]

44. He wants to reopen because

his properties are losing money daily

[warmfeet]

45. The bullshit does not fool me.

I use reason and logic, every day. I would be fired if I did not.

[LiberalArkie]

46. Been expecting the "doctors" to come out to open up everything. Here it is

Naturally only source is faux news

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doctors-raise-alarm-about-health-effects-of-continued-coronavirus-shutdown

[jayddrew]

47. Funny and tragic

There are bad people in every profession, medical doctors included. While we know there are ill effects from this stay-at-home order, to compare it to a mass casualty incident is laughable. Random assigments to the color levels of an MCI? Really? This is the equivalent of Trump's doctors assigning him a "perfect" bill of health when we all know he's sedentary and obese.

[Delphinus]

49. Welcome to DU!

[Delphinus]

48. Glad to hear this.

I truly am (was) beginning to doubt my sanity about wanting to work from home.

Everyone on the news seems to think we are done with it and we should be back to normal before too long. And I am thinking we've not even yet reached peak!

[Dr. T]

52. This is like the movie Jaws.

Just because the mayor re-opened the beach doesn't mean that the shark went away. The shark is still in the water. Let the bleach drinkers go in first.

[CrispyQ]

54. I predict a very somber Fourth of July this year as the second wave hits.

I suspect it will be well into next year before we stop shelter-in-place and only go out for necessities. Maybe longer if stupidity continues to rule.

[LittleGirl]

55. All those office buildings around the world

Sitting empty could be converted to homeless shelters.
Or clinics for mental health professionals. Do we have enough mental health therapists?

Because as you state, you’re probably working from home until this ends hopefully in 2021.

Hubby started a new position on May 1st and he was told he wouldn’t work at the office until at least late June or July. He’s not considered an essential employee to go to the office yet.

[uponit7771]

59. +1

[ancianita]

64. The way to shut down government is to shut down the CDC, & let it be a shadow of its former self.

[catbyte]

67. May I share this post?

[CatWoman]

75. sure

[catbyte]

76. Thank you! And thank you for all you do.

[barbtries]

68. thank you for sharing this.

as a member of the vulnerable population i can honestly say I'm not going anywhere, and I don't know for how long.

[Pacifist Patriot]

70. Proud to be the 200th rec.

[saidsimplesimon]

71. I did not know. Thank you for all that you do.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

77. IF we had begun testing and tracing and quarantine when we should, we'd be recovering.

Morons are killing us.