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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'We're not going to close the country' if there's a second wave, Trump says
Meanwhile, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has quietly updated its guidance to say that the virus does not spread easily from contaminated surfaces and is primarily transmitted through person-to-person contact. The change to the CDC website was made earlier this month without formal announcement or explanation, and some public health experts worry that it could give people the impression that they dont have to wash their hands quite so often.
Here are some significant developments:
A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients on six continents found that those who received hydroxychloroquine the antimalarial drug taken and promoted by Trump had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.
Trump ordered flags over federal buildings and monuments lowered to half-staff from Friday through Sunday in memory of the Americans we have lost to the CoronaVirus. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) had asked the president to order flags lowered when the U.S. death toll which surpassed 93,000 on Thursday reaches 100,000.
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bullimiami
(13,084 posts)spanone
(135,823 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)we aint seen nothing yet folks
struggle4progress
(118,278 posts)ecstatic
(32,685 posts)trump hasn't learned anything and continues to make the same mistakes, using the same flawed logic.
If we get through this pandemic, it will be in spite of trump, not because of any actions he took.
imanamerican63
(13,776 posts)Remember? He left it up to each state to defend for themselves! Oh by the way! He walks on his own words, by not doing what he says he gonna do!
rurallib
(62,406 posts)AFAIK he still hasn't done a fucking thing. Governors have done it all.
Some like mine (Kim Reynolds of Iowa) have done a really bad job.
imanamerican63
(13,776 posts)rurallib
(62,406 posts)those are three stinko governors.
Liberal In Texas
(13,546 posts)He doesn't care how many people die for his election chances.
Srkdqltr
(6,271 posts)"We" can't open the country. Governors can or won't depending on their information.
Chainfire
(17,530 posts)it would be too politically harmful to do just to save lives. We had to realize, with the blind rush to reopen, that shutdowns were over, for good.
What the politicians can't do is force people to resume their pre-virus lives. Rational people will keep their personal "slowdowns" or shutdowns in effect. I will not be tricked by Capitol Hill or Wall Street to assume risks that I do not find to be acceptable. When a medical solution to the medical problem is proven, giving us a very high probability to either avoid the virus or recover from the illness, then I will consider the shutdown is over, not before.
I will continue to isolate myself from people who may be infected for the same reasons I never get in my car without putting on my seat belt. The seat belt does not eliminate the possibility of being killed in a wreck, but it certainly improves my chances.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)For the most part, businesses were closing on their own or already setting up work-from-home arrangements before any state ordered anything.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)It becomes white noise to the people , and they listen less. That's happening to trump right now. Just like he's trying to con people now to believe thousands of deaths is acceptable. Any normal person after failing so badly causing thousands to die needlessly would feel shame and remorse, but trump demands praise and congratulations , and attacks those who disagree. This is how sick he really is. He could care less by his actions now about us. HE wants wages lowered, and to force people to work with an active ongoing deadly pandemic killing people. He can't force people out other than his supporters , who'll soon have a change of heart about his decisions when they become infected at much higher rates from their spreading it around even more.
HAB911
(8,880 posts)Lars39
(26,109 posts)What hes signaling here is his desire to starve people back to work and their possible death or disablement.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)He's like "reverse Spider-Man"
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,876 posts)A badge of horror.
raccoon
(31,110 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that isn't about himself. Of course closing wasn't Trump's choice and won't be again when the inevitable very bad second wave forces state and local lockdowns later this year. Mass deaths and overwhelmed hospitals and other systems guarantee that.
I am glad that I can stop treating cans, grocery bags and envelopes as if they'll kill me if I don't kill them first, so to speak. Keep washing those hands, and I'll probably often still leave bags and packages I don't need outside for a day or so until I do.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Even if all 35% of trump's base rush out to spend every dime they have, the economy can't run on 65% of the people staying home because they would rather not contract a potentially deadly disease for a cheeseburger or new blouse.
samsingh
(17,595 posts)Grammy23
(5,810 posts)Weve seen the deaths and the suffering and heard first hand reports from survivors. So once we see evidence that there is a resurgence of the virus, hospital admissions go up and deaths begin to mount, it wont take us long to retreat back to our homes. Not all of us can stay home from our jobs or work from home, but a big enough portion can to bring on an economic pause that will do more than make Wall Street hiccough.
tRump can run his nasty mouth until he passes out, we are not listening any more. And even his experts are not getting much love these days. We know when we are up against something scary and deadly. So well just make up our own minds what we need to do. Maybe well be better prepared with toilet paper than we were in March. 😳
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)My governor (JB Pritzker) will close the state.