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PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
Fri May 22, 2020, 10:59 AM May 2020

Just a couple of quick thoughts.

When November comes and goes, and we hopefully have a bunch of newly elected people who actually want to run the country instead of tearing it apart like Trump has done, we're all going to have to pull together.

The soul of this country is built on vigorous debate and compromise to move forward. But the Republican party decided back in Reagan's day that winning was more important than governing, and we have to get rid of that cancer.

A conservative party is necessary, as is a liberal one, because most progress happens within the middle two-thirds of the Bell curve. Our system cannot work without compromise. When one party decides never to compromise, as the GOP has, it rips at the very fabric that holds the republic together. If there's imbalance, we can go the wrong direction very quickly, and our founders set it up to require vigorous debate and compromise to move forward. I suspect that is part of what Biden means when he speaks of the soul of this republic.

Remember Grover Norquist saying we need to starve the federal government until it is small enough to drown in a bathtub, and that ideally the Republicans could get America to elect a stupid president that will merely sign laws that come to him from a Republican Congress? That is what we have now, at least in the Senate. These are mean-spirited, hard-hearted, greedy people who are intent on stealing as much from the treasury as they can to give to the billionaires and corporations that have bought them.

Thank God the House is Democratic Party controlled, or we'd really be screwed. Nonetheless, we are on our knees with 95,000 Americans dead and the solid economy Trump inherited from the Democrats who laid the foundations of recovery in 2009 in utter shambles, the laughingstock of the world. Do you know I read an editorial in the Irish times that expresses pity for us?

I supported Warren in the primary and Biden was my last choice, but you know what? When we elect Biden, he's actually going to go to DC with the intent to do his best to govern this nation, and that's exactly what we need. Some say he may pick Klobuchar to carry independent votes in the mid-west, and if he does that, fine. Klobuchar wasn't my first choice either but like Biden, she does care about this country and its people, and will go to DC with the intent to do her best to govern the country as well.

I'm deeply concerned about this republic. Just saw a Harris poll on the Hill that gives Trump a 51% approval rate for how he's handling the pandemic. Fifty-one percent? Really? 538 has him at 43% at this writing, which to my mind is unbelievably high. He's a simpering imbecile.

Well...now I'm going outside, in the sun, to help my daughter build a sandbox for my grandkids. I'm going to forget about the news for the next few hours and dip my feet into the blessed, pure, cool waters of sanity. Regards to all of you.

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Just a couple of quick thoughts. (Original Post) PatrickforO May 2020 OP
51% is an outlier. Harris is a "C" rated poll. lagomorph777 May 2020 #1
"I supported Warren in the primary and Biden was my last choice, but" LakeArenal May 2020 #2
I hate to point out the obvious.. Moostache May 2020 #3
So you see the big picture. Lucky you. LakeArenal May 2020 #4

LakeArenal

(28,813 posts)
2. "I supported Warren in the primary and Biden was my last choice, but"
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:12 AM
May 2020

Why do ex other candidates have to say this?

Totally unnecessary. This is one of the reasons I don’t want a primary candidate forVP.

Repukes will add up those “buts” into a nice ad against Joe.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
3. I hate to point out the obvious..
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:22 AM
May 2020

BUT...
If we lose this election based on ads run against the selection of the VP on the ticket, then we should fold the party and start over.
That would mean a complete failure of messaging and campaigning against the worst president in the history of governance and we would deserve to lose for taking our collective eyes off the ball so badly.

The nation is in mortal peril and led by an imbecile with grifters and whores and lobbyists along for the drunken joy ride. At least when Bush was finished, he had merely killed millions and drove the economic car into a ravene...Trump is not done killing, though starting with 100,000+ AMERICANS instead of millions of foreigners in BS wars was HIS north star. Nor is Trump done wrecking the economy. He is not content to drive into a ditch or ravene...he is heading for a solid wall and hitting the accelerator at the same time while popping pills and looking at anything BUT the road.

The selection of the VP is a minor issue to anyone looking at the big picture and realizing that the number one qualification for the role is whether that person can assume the mantle if necessary. Primary opponent, sex, race, degree of progressive views....all are acorns on the forest floor that we are missing for the trees.

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