The ability of the Trump campaign to take a minor Biden gaffe and kick up a whole day's worth . .

[CousinIT]

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The ability of the Trump campaign to take a minor Biden gaffe and kick up a whole day's worth of coverage on it (so far) at least with Biden apologizing and write-ups in the NYT and elsewhere should scare the hell out of Democrats

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[janterry]

1. Biden is prone to gaffes

somehow we - and his campaign --has to lean into that.

Look, sometimes I say things out of passion or energy or whatnot. My actions are X. Gaffes are gaffes

(something like that - or something much better).

Trump and company will do what they do. IMO, it's how WE handle the gaffes and project that acceptance back - that matters.

[Nature Man]

45. "Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything."

Trump is prone to rape and nazism.

[janterry]

48. I have no idea what this has to do with my post

n/t

[Celerity]

49. I think they are saying that Rump voters, upon hearing the insane shit

Rump says either shrug their shoulders or LOVE IT. We, on the other hand, tend to (rightly or wrongly) eat our own, flay them alive.

[Nature Man]

51. Ding Ding Ding

we have a winner.

It's a double standard. The old rules apply to Dems, no rules apply to Rethugs.

[Nature Man]

52. your criticism of Biden is weak

compared to the monstrosity that is Chump and motherfucking repugnant nazi right wingers.

[janterry]

54. I have no offered that as criticism but as a critique

but whatever

[Nature Man]

55. "Biden is prone to gaffes"

BULLSHIT

[uponit7771]

2. Trump's inaction kills 97,000 Americans, puts 40 million out of work but M$M focus's on Biden's...

... thoughtless statement ?!

The M$M is part of the problem.

[Hugin]

12. Some of the mass media believe they still need a horse race.

When the biggest story of the last 75 years or so in COVID goes right over their heads.


I'm hoping Koppel's Gotcha journalism goes away with Donkey Ditch.

[gab13by13]

3. Lord help Joe if he ever wears a tan suit.

[exboyfil]

4. Same day Trump gives a nod to that old time eugenics warrior

Henry Ford. It is the media that is the problem.

[global1]

7. Has Trump Ever Apologized For Anything He's Said?.....

At least once a day he says something outrageous.

[exboyfil]

11. Of course not

That is what makes him so "charming". Of course the right thing to do is correct your mistake, but I would have to think folks are alarmed by Biden's sentiment. Never attack the voters. I honestly can't understand how any sane individual could support Trump, but I would engage Trump and not the potential voters. Every person is an individual, and to lump any voting group into such a statement is wrong. It would be far easier to say that Trump is a disaster now for black people (virtually all people), and the probability of it getting worse in a 2nd term is very high.

[Demsrule86]

5. Total bullshit...and in the end will amount to nothing.

And I for one think Joe is right. Although, I put it to all...those who support Trump now after baby caging and Nazi dog whistles are scum and very stupid and care for no one but themselves.

[Iliyah]

6. And yet the media is quiet when shithole . . .

basically promotes anti-Semitic just recently at the Ford facilities.

[mnmoderatedem]

8. gaffe?

uh, trumpie, who was it who wondered out loud as to whether we could remedy the coronovirus situation by drinking Chlorox?

[bigtree]

9. he lost zero support

...and the Trump shirts are actually racist, though you'd find yourself in one of those dirt-dumb arguments stupid people make for saying so to a Trumper.

[padah513]

19. Yep lost zero support

Lots of pearl-clutching going on around here but what else is new. It was Joe Biden being real. I knew exactly what he meant when he said it and I wasn't offended. I don't know a lot of black people who were.

[Skittles]

44. these are GAFFES

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he needs to stop saying stuff that feeds the sharks

[Celerity]

50. He is nearing 80 years old, I do not think he can stop it. I long

ago made peace with his loose cannon, as his actions are far more thoughtfully well planned than his words, and his actions, on balance, whilst not perfect, are bloody light years ahead of Rump and the Rethugs.

[maxrandb]

28. Yeah, can't wait to see all the old white people wearing these

while carrying Confederate Flags.

[mdelaguna]

10. And Chris Hayes had to feature the gaffe last night, with outrage.nt

[Demsrule86]

22. I deleted Chris Hayes last night and sent MSNBC a message and an email.

I am not watching as long as you allow Hayes to attack our nominee while giving Trump a pass most times.

[BeyondGeography]

13. The good news is the shirt idea is even dumber than the comment

[helpisontheway]

14. I'm an African American and I have tons of AA on my FB page. YES..people are discussing

it on FB. However, not ONE PERSON was upset with Joe Biden over this gaffe. They are saying that what he said was the TRUTH! They also said Trump would not even participate. They are saying that they will not be fooled. Many said it is Biden v Trump and there is no contest for them. I don't believe Trump will get any traction from this except from AA that intended to vote for him anyway. I do have one AA male (friend in school..lives in southern state). He is TOTALLY NUTS though. He spends the day posting pro Trump/Pence stuff and anti Bill Gates/Fauci stuff. When I say he is nuts I mean REALLY nuts..He keeps saying how Gates wants to microchip us and how Fauci is basically the devil. I finally had to mute him on FB so I don't see his stuff unless I choose to visit his page. I checked it yesterday and he did not mention this incident. However, people like that were going to vote for Trump anyway. The average AA sees through that. I also noticed quite a few rolled their eyes about Trump's sudden passion to get the churches open. Most of my friends are like whatever..they are watching online until it is safe. So this little stunt from Trump will backfire. Trump won last time as an outsider complaining about the government. Well, now the Trump administration (and people he hired) could not manage this crisis. They caused many more people to lose their lives. No amount of gaffes from Biden is going to hide that. Biden (and the super pacs) need to flood the airwaves with all of Trump's gaffes in reference to this crisis.

[exboyfil]

16. As far as I can tell

He is still running as an outsider complaining about the system. And his cultists are eating it up.

[helpisontheway]

29. Yeah, his cult members believe everything he says. However, I don't think the rest of the voters

see him as an outsider. I’m not worried about his cult members because they are a lost cause.

[uponit7771]

23. +1,

[R02091201]

30. Good post! I willl say though that the Biden campaign has been running GREAT ads with Trump saying

all that stupid crap about how the virus would just "go away" etc. etc. etc. and how he totally botched the whole thing.

And MUCH more is coming.

[Lulu KC]

41. Good to hear

Thank you.

[honest.abe]

15. Its shocking how fast and effective they are exploiting this relatively minor issue.

Its like they are ready and waiting for something like this then they pounce and all in unison.. Trump campaign, Fox News, RW radio, Russian social media bots. It is troubling what they are capable of.

[R02091201]

34. It's not effective though and will backfire when the Biden campaign hits back with "Obamagate" and

DUMP being the King Of Birtherism, and said white supremists were "good people", and said African countries were
"shitholes" etc. etc. etc.


What votes does DUMP win with this? NONE! In fact, I think the vast majority of the African American community will see just what Donald Dump is trying to do with this and will see straight through it. Charlamagne tha God was not insulted, knew just what Biden meant, and even said so. (In fact, isn't "You aren't Black" a common thing said on that radio show?) Biden has issued an apology for not making the point in the best way. The African American community knows Joe Biden and knows how much he has done on their issues throughout his career. This is a nothingburger.

[honest.abe]

35. It could be effective if it turns off a significant number of voters.

Much like the "Hillary is no better than Trump" in 2016. We have to fight this shit.

[R02091201]

36. Very doubtful. People hate DONALD DUMP so much this won't matter. This is not 2016. This is such a

nothingburger. It is targeted at African Americans. How many are buying it right as Donald Dump is in the middle of pushing
"Obamagate"? And they will be VERY ready to vote and vote bigtime in November.

I will only say that Biden now needs to run ads with Dump slamming Obama, calling the white supremists "very good people", calling African countries "shitholes," and being the king of the birther movement.

Indeed, this could very well backfire on Dump in a BIG way. If Dump and his people want to fight about the African American vote and who has been the better advocate for the African American community, PLEASE BRING IT ON!!!! The African American community knows Joe Biden and they know Dump.

Plus, give it maybe another day or two at most, and this will be history and they'll be on to the next headline.

It is SUCH a nothingburger.

[honest.abe]

40. Not everyone hates Trump as much as we do.

Note the recent polling that shows his approval ratings over 40%. This election is not in the bag and things like this can flip a state that is close.

[R02091201]

42. Doubtful.

This is way too much of a nothing burger. It is a hopeless attempt to turn off Black voters and won't work with Dump's endless racist record.

[mercuryblues]

43. try ton ald dump

A nothingburger with limburger cheese on top.

[Demsrule86]

39. Not just the right wing media either.

[Nature Man]

53. There's one rulebook for Democrats

and a different one for nazis (republicans).

[yardwork]

17. The media does this. Where is their reporting on Trump's outrageous behavior?

[USALiberal]

18. The Dems would jump on gaffes also, it is just politics. nt

[Maxheader]

20. When compared with the traitors b.s. swiftys..

I don't see much lasting fallout..besides, I dig what joe is saying..

It's not racist, imho...

[whistler162]

21. Yup good PR

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put the name of your opponent on the shirt and remind black people of why he said what he said, aside from the word gaffe, and the reason, 50 cases per 100,000 in blacks versus 20 deaths per 100,000 in whites.

https://www.apmresearchlab.org/covid/deaths-by-race


Heck of a job Trumpie!

[Blue Owl]

24. Let me fire up my invisible grill

And cook up a batch of nothingburgers...

[farmbo]

25. Yep... Brad Parscale can now buy a new mansion in Boca Raton

And that should scare the hell out of Republicans.

[PaddyIrishman]

26. Nobody's buying it

Does anyone here think that black people are going to click on to Trump's website and order this t-shirt in their thousands? Hundreds? Dozens?

Will any black people at all buy (as opposed to be paid to model) this t-shirt?

ThIs is a stunt and the only people exercised by this are the MSM as it gives them something to talk about other than COVID-19 and Trump's appalling response to it.

[wryter2000]

37. I wonder if white people will buy it

That could be pretty funny at some all white gathering.

[R02091201]

27. It's the corporate media. They want headlines and ratings. Don't worry. It's a nothing burger.

The corporate media wants headlines, ratings, and a horserace by trying to make something out of virtually nothing.

Donald DUMP just talked about "Good Bloodlines," and in another of his insane tweets the other day again

dtrummed up an insane conspiracy theory about the death many years ago of Joe Scarborough's staffer and again

called Elizabeth Warren "Pochahontas." Where was Chris's outrage with that? Where was the media outrage beyond Mika's?

It's all bullshit. How many deep and ongoing pieces have they done on the 20+ women who have accused DUMP of sexual assault?

It's all corporate media BS! Trying to get headlines and create a horserace. It's what they always do.

The Biden campaign and the Lincoln Project have been running GREAT ads against DUMP, SLAMMING HIM HARD!

Don't worry. They are going to continue to body slam DONALD DUMP good and hard.

[beachbumbob]

31. nobody outside of foxnews and trumpers care about this

[greenjar_01]

32. Good job amplifying Trump content, citizen!

[FakeNoose]

33. Any African Americans who love Obama - and that's just about all of them -

... how can ANY of them support Chump? The constant blaming and criticizing of Obama for everything under the sun, that would be enough for me right there. Even when you ignore the hundred-thousand other reasons why Chump is a terrible president who doesn't deserve to be re-elected, his hatred of Obama alone should be the kicker.

Somebody please explain to me how black people (and other minorities) are able to overlook that and support Chump anyway? There's something else going on there, but I don't know what. OK, not everybody LOVES Joe Biden - I get it - but to turn around and give Chump four more years? No way in hell!

[Sunsky]

38. We allow them

It's on us. Every time team trump sneezes, Democrats catch a cold. We need to let a non-story, be a non-story. We give it legs by commenting and not ignoring the garbage, and they realize this. They know how to stir the pot. We are walking into the same traps we did in 2016

I am AA and I didn't see a gaffe. I see a man having fun with his interviewer. It was a light-hearted moment. Nothing worth commenting about. Yet DU and other places lit fire to this BS. Let them take their faux outrage and shove it. I thought it was a great interview. I don't believe an apology was necessary.

I feel the same way about the constant posting of Trump's tweets and lies. It's time we learn to master the ignore buttons in our lives. Our focus should be on getting him out of office and not helping to disseminate his BS. I'm done.

[R02091201]

46. AMEN! SPOT ON! It was an upbeat animated radio interview, a GOOD one, and it was said in JEST!

NOTHINGBURGER!

[Cha]

47. Capehart: Folks, please listen to all 18 minutes of the @cthagod interview with @JoeBiden.

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