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If day cares closed because of the novel coronavirus, Aimee Rae Hannaford expected her family to fare better than most. She worked full time as the chief executive of a tech company while her husband stayed home. Hed been taking some time off from his own tech career, managing a rental property while considering his options. He could look after their 3-year-old son, she thought at least for a while.
That lasted a grand total of three days, Hannaford said.
Once her son was home full time, she realized theyd need a different solution. She was holed up in the guest room, wielding dual-monitors at her desk. Her husband was exhausted. I cant do it, she remembers him saying: I cant watch him for this long.
Hannaford, 46, had been logging 70-hour weeks for years and she was proud of the work shed done. When she started her career in San Francisco, she was one of two women at a video game company, buying nondescript jeans and hoodies so she could be one of the guys. Eventually she came to run a company she co-founded, building open-source websites for clients like Stanford University. Hannaford, who oversaw software development, co-led a diverse team of 13 employees. She was intentional about hiring women, minorities and others who challenged the stereotypes about Silicon Valley.
https://www.thelily.com/i-had-to-choose-being-a-mother-with-no-child-care-or-summer-camps-women-are-being-edged-out-of-the-workforce/?fbclid=IwAR2ly86prcjuEcAQqkEJPi82QhIzusMqpm33G3R_d89oSHOp2JN1kyKTljM
Throck
(2,520 posts)Is it worth it? People need family and leisure time to enjoy life. 70 hour weeks are a way to ruin your health.
Igel
(35,296 posts)She was one of the cofounders. Presumably she identified with the company and her investment of time, sweat, and gold.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)They often don't understand what that cost their family until it is too late.
treestar
(82,383 posts)did not do that and more and with more than one kid.
Ohiogal
(31,963 posts)I did it with 3 kids while we lived on a teachers salary
treestar
(82,383 posts)60 and 70s.
Ohiogal
(31,963 posts)What does that husband expect?
jimfields33
(15,763 posts)Its much much cheaper then San Francisco. Just selling their house could last a lifetime there.
Hekate
(90,633 posts)They know no one else who thinks as they do. While school was still in session, their kids had to watch every word they said.
One set of parents lives close enough to visit (and now she delivers groceries to them). They expected to be able to work remotely and afford the house of their dreams. But he got laid off as soon as Trump was elected because his boss could see the tariffs coming, so now it's just her salary in an uncertain world.
And did I mention the culture shock of moving from coastal California to Idaho?
jimfields33
(15,763 posts)I just think as more Californians move to Idaho and other states, they will behin bringing in some culture and life devoid of these states.
jmowreader
(50,552 posts)They are adding no value to the area. Rather, they are forcing prices up to the point the natives cant afford to live here anymore.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)After all, how hard was it taking care of little kids! They're portable! They have to do what you tell them!
Then his wife was hospitalized for some necessary surgery, and he was stuck at home with just one child... and he wrote penitently that he understood.
My mom had 5 children and a home job much of the time (seamstress). Of course, with that many kids, the older kid (me) do a lot of supervision. (My siblings did all survive, at least.)
This woman should tell her husband that if he won't do childcare and commit fully to it, he should go out and get a job to pay for a nanny.
What a turd.
After this article, I suspect he's going to be even more passive-aggressive!
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)The solution is obvious to that family's problems.
Igel
(35,296 posts)I remember the '60s and '70s, when I was growing up.
Mother worked. But even when she was home, I often self-entertained. There were woods nearby, a few blocks in two directions until anything close to a "major" street (one lane each direction). There were days I'd leave at 9 am and come back at 1 pm, eat, and vanish until it was dark. I mean, once my friend and I hopped on our bikes because we were bored. We biked 35 miles in one direction, ate lunch, turned around and came back. (No, didn't tell parents where we went. We were 14. Our parents shrugged, and then said, "Really?"
There were other kids around, we'd hang at their house or my parents', play games in the street or swim or climb trees. An adult was never far away. It was seldom the case that an adult actively supervised us. Often an adult would come out, sit and drink or eat something while we played. Not sure if they were actively monitoring or just outside or liked watching us.
Can't do that now. Can't let kids out of the house without supervision. Must provide structure for their every waking moment.
On the other hand, I see the neighborhood kids and they act much like I behaved, when I was their age. Except that now I live where the outside temperature and humidity would kill Superman, instead of more temperate climes. And I know it's not just my street because HS kids where I work are encouraged to post video (to provide social bonding during a time of social isolation) and their videos show groups engaged in activities outside (can't call it "playing" these days).
It doesn't help that new subdivisions have fairly large main thoroughfares adjacent to them, and people assume that the 35 mph sign is a suggestion--perhaps during a foggy snowstorm when the road's covered with ice and it's night with construction.
We were like that too and the baby boom assured a lot of children our age in the subdivision. Parents were not afraid of kidnapping and so on the way they are today - not that they don't have reason to be afraid of it.
Also the other adults who saw you doing something stupid could correct you without getting into trouble themselves. The parents supported teachers who disciplined their children.
Further back, my father grew up in a small town where they all knew each other, the entire town was their playground and any adult in town could get them in line if they caught them doing anything stupid. On top of that, dad could take letters to the post office for his mom, go to the market for her, walk to school or even the movie theater or library or the park and she could feel he was safe (and his siblings likewise).
Toddlers still had to be watched and maybe even more so. They didn't have as much baby proofing. "I just had a baby" was an all purpose excuse any woman could use to get out of anything!
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,316 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Blecht
(3,803 posts)What a piece of shit the husband is.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)She works 70 hours a week and is the breadwinner and he can't even take care of ONE kid for more than three days in a row? He's pathetic. She should cut him loose and get a nanny. He's just dead weight. What is he contributing?
more like WON'T do it
Talitha
(6,581 posts)What a wimpy little shit.
Prosper
(761 posts)EarlG
(21,942 posts)I agree with everyone in this thread who thinks the husband is a useless wanker.
Three days, dude really?
snowybirdie
(5,222 posts)So many young parents think there will always be progress and forward movement. As long as they plan well, life will be perfect. Unfortunately, that's not true. Younger people need to teach themselves flexibility and patience. Illness, job loss and economic downturns are always with us. Be willing to compromise and downsize if necessary. You'll be a much more content person. P.S. That shit of a husband who didn't want to care for his one small child can be tarred and feathered, as well!
irisblue
(32,961 posts)Pandemic Makes Evident 'Grotesque' Gender Inequality In Household Work
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LizBeth
(9,952 posts)demmiblue
(36,838 posts)saying she should hire a babysitter or a nanny. Hello, dumbasses... why do you think people are staying at home?!
Privileged responses.
demmiblue
(36,838 posts)Link to tweet
How are people so clueless? Probably because they don't value lower paid workers... they seem disposable to some.
jimfields33
(15,763 posts)Most in tech make six-figures at least.
boston bean
(36,220 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)My guess is her and her employees are heavily hooked into VCs (Venture Capitalists). My guess is all of them will do ok in the long run.
Demovictory9
(32,445 posts)rusty fender
(3,428 posts)that he is cheating on her as well
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I can't help but feel that she could have selected a better spouse to begin with.