WTF is wrong with California, why are so many so nonchalant about the virus here??

[ansible]

Every time I go out it's like only 1/3 at best of the people at stores are wearing masks. The rest simply don't care at all!

[FirstLight]

1. where are you?

Friends in the Bay Area say it's pretty standard to be masked....But I live in the sierras and EVERYONE is uo here this weekend and they are NOT being safe at all!

My little mtn hospital only has 68 beds

[lame54]

2. It's a Catch-22...

The better we are at keeping it down the more likely people will stop believing it's a threat

[former9thward]

10. CA is not "better" at keeping it down.

Covid is a density driven disease. That is why it has spread so easily in the densest part of the country --- NYC and northern NJ. It was spread around because of the subway system where people are packed in and there is poor ventilation. CA does not have those problems and has a low death rate comparable with most of the western states.

[lame54]

17. You are misinterpreting the word better...

Was not comparing us to other places

In our parts we started out strong and our number have been low

Now attitudes are changing and places are opening and filling up

I expect an increase in a few weeks

[John Fante]

18. California metros are the most densely populated in the US outside the tri-state area and

they recieve an enormous amount of international and domestic visitors every year, yet California only ranks 28/50 in terms of deaths per million residents. They state has done a terrific job containing the spread.

[former9thward]

30. LOL

I guess you have never been to NYC. There is no place in CA even closely similar to density. In NYC everyone takes subways and buses to work. That is not the case in CA which is the land of the freeways with one person in a car. Many, many states have a lower death rate than CA and many higher. The ones higher have higher density population centers. CA has done nothing different than NY and many other states.

[displacedtexan]

31. San Francisco is almost a million people in 7miles X 7miles.

And we just had our 40th Covid19 death. But as stated above, some here are beginning to think it's getting better & they're venturing out more without masks. GG Park is packed today. I walked the dogs around the Music Concourse as usual this morning, and it was getting crowded by 8:00am.

[John Fante]

35. Yup. Central LA and the Westside has 1 2 million residents

in a 70 sq mile area. It's loaded with tourists visiting Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, etc.

LA County was the hardest hit region in California by far but even it's not doing as bad as I thought it would. The fact that CA isn't in the top 5 in deaths per capita is a minor miracle.

[John Fante]

34. I clearly said that the tri-state area is more densely populated.

Outside of NYC, California metros are the most densely populated. That's a fact:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfgate.com/bayarea/place/amp/California-cities-most-densely-populated-in-U-S-3436611.php

The urban cores of San Francisco and Los Angeles are as densely populated as anywhere outside NYC. San Francisco is very transit oriented and Los Angeles has the second busiest bus system in the nation. Yet neither city was hit as hard as the Northeast, Chicago, Michigan, or even Florida. The states that are doing better are mostly rural and none of them recieve even a fraction of the tourism California gets. You're just flat out wrong on this one.

[kairos12]

26. That is the catch.

[chia]

3. The places I shop, like Costco, Albertson's etc. require masks to enter, so I'm seeing 100%

compliance there. I haven't been much anywhere else yet.

[shanti]

4. And it's not just the

young folks that are going without masks. At Costco, where you aren't let in without a mask, some people just take them off once they're in. I'm nonconfrontational, so will not call them out, but it pisses me off. I'm in Sac.

[Brainfodder]

15. I'd do the opposite, I'd get out of their line of sight and yell, Hey some asshole has no mask on!

Security!

Then go back near and see if they frantically put it back on?



They should be tossing mask fakers with impunity?

[cilla4progress]

5. I was out in our rural area yesterday...

won't do it again any time soon. Very few people masked. My daughter and I were. And stores / restaurants were not practicing cleaning regimens anymore.

I will no longer shop or patronize any establishment where masks aren't required.

Bad experience! Disappointing!

[temporary311]

6. I live in LA county

I dont go to the store often but when i do most everyone has masks. Do you live in a redder part of the state?

[DBoon]

7. in LA (Hollywood)

I'd guess it is at least 2/3 with masks

Some of the ones not wearing masks have them hanging around their neck to put on quickly. These are usually runners.

[chowder66]

21. Hello Neighbor! That seems about right. Though I am seeing more people without them

in the last few days.

[DBoon]

23. Agree

Not a good sign...

[chowder66]

24. And the crime came roaring back as soon as Newsom announced partial opening. Sigh.

[tinrobot]

29. I rode from Silverlake to Arcadia today. Mask density gets way lower as you go east.

It was weird, once I got into Pasadena, I saw very few masks. Further east, people were gathering in groups with no masks at all.

On my way back, as soon as I crossed back into Highland Park, people had masks again.

Not a good sign. I think we're about to get another surge in cases. Ugh.

[DFW]

8. I saw some clips of Jay Leno and Jimmy Kimmel asking questions of the public in southern California

These people had no idea what July 4th was in celebration of, and could not identify ONE country on a map of the world, NOT EVEN THE UNITED STATES. They didn't even know that Africa was a continent, and not a country.

And you ask why they are so nonchalant about a virus? I think people THAT ignorant about the world would be nonchalant about any danger less imposing than Godzilla.

[chowder66]

22. Jimmy goes to Hollywood Blvd where the tourists go. Also a lot of people are newcomers

from other states, especially in Hollywood. Some of the home owners may be native Californians but many of the renters are not.

[tritsofme]

9. Are masks required at stores?

They are in Illinois, and at least in the Chicago suburbs, I’ve seen 100% compliance each time I am out.

[FreeState]

19. Depends on the County I believe

In San Diego they are required to enter any business.

[Dream Girl]

11. No wat I'm seeing in the Bay Area...

I’d say 5% are wearing masks when I shop

[kimbutgar]

12. I live in San Francisco and rarely see people without face masks

Yesterday I picked something up from Target that I ordered and line outside was long but everyone had a mask on.

Our local government and news have really emphasized the importance of wearing masks. Everyday at 11:30 they have someone on TV talking about the virus and Taking precautions.

[Hekate]

13. Are you inland and/or some rural area? Until this week I've only been out for groceries and PT...

Costco and Trader Joe's have been reliable. The PT place has been financially hit because they've only been talking post-surgical patients like me, and only seeing one or two people at a time, everybody wearing masks.

On Thursday I went for a long beach walk with my SIL and a friend to test my new knee (great success). I bundled up in sun protective gear as is my habit and tossed on a cloth mask. The friend gave me a hard time, but I simply said "Mr. Sun is not my friend. Mr. Pollen is not my friend either," and she finally subsided. They were in shorts and sleeveless shirts, improving their toasty tans.

Except for one couple who looked about my age, also covered up and in masks, everybody else we saw was in swimsuits and no masks. It was very pleasant to be out of the house and out in nature. Not too crowded. Eventually we saw cops doing patrol and telling the sunbathers to move on, but it was kind of spotty.

Eventually I'm going to try a few different stores for odds and ends I can't get at TJ's or Costco, and will see how the situation is elsewhere.

Best of luck to you.

[LizBeth]

14. I know. I am in Oregon and I heard from someone in BC. You would think we were the bestest!

Michigan puts us to shame. I listen to the percentage... like ALL wearing it mask there. I just went out to convenience store and five other people, I was the only one wearing. It does surprise me we are so bad at it. But, our numbers are really controlled, they jumped on it immediately, and we haven't been hit like Calif, Michigan or NY

[Caliman73]

16. Not in my neck of the woods.

I live on the Central Coast and things are pretty tight here. I would say 95% or higher are wearing masks. I even see people driving with their masks on.

[John Fante]

20. Occasionally I'll see a runner without a mask, but even that's rare.

I live in Los Angeles and masks are ubiquitous around here. You literally cannot enter a supermarket unless you have a mask on.

[stopbush]

25. 95% wearing masks in my area of SoCal (Lake Forest/Irvine)

100% inside Costco today, though some were maskless at the gas pumps, even though there was signage from the City of Irvine stating masks must be worn while pumping gas.

[Iggo]

27. Where?

[ecstatic]

28. Because people believe that hot weather kills the virus

Thanks to dump's misinformation campaign.

[Alex4Martinez]

32. I live in a beach community and swear that Trumps' words sent people into the sun.

And not just out to the beach but on their decks and lawns, the same weekend that he said it.

He's not helping. I strongly dislike the locals who think it's a conspiracy, who use the term "tyranny" and think it's a God given right to be on the beach without social distancing or masks.

For myself, I'm following the guidelines.

[tishaLA]

33. I'min DTLA and I almost never see people without masks

even the homeless are wearing them (and gloves) by and large.

[madville]

36. I would bet people are healthier in CA

On average. I lived in the Bay Area for a couple of years, people are definitely healthier and in better shape than most other parts of the country. It is likely it ran through the population there but most were asymptomatic.

[Codeine]

37. Here in Riverside compliance is pretty much 100%.

And the IE is fairly conservative. Where are you?