What will you do if Trump refused to leave office or decides to stop election voting activities

[UCmeNdc]

Democrats and Never-Trumpers gaming out ‘doomsday scenarios’ if president refuses to leave office: report


According to a report in the New York Times, Democratic strategists and Never-Trumper conservatives fear Donald Trump will refuse to leave office should he lose in November and are making plans and figuring out their legal options should such an unprecedented state of affairs come to pass.

The report, by the Times’ Reid Epstein, begins with one such possible scenario.

“In October, President Trump declares a state of emergency in major cities in battleground states, like Milwaukee and Detroit, banning polling places from opening. A week before the election, Attorney General William P. Barr announces a criminal investigation into the Democratic presidential nominee, Joseph R. Biden Jr,” he suggested. “After Mr. Biden wins a narrow Electoral College victory, Mr. Trump refuses to accept the results, won’t leave the White House and declines to allow the Biden transition team customary access to agencies before the Jan. 20 inauguration.”

Admitting that his suggestion sounds “far-fetched,” he added, “Not to a group of worst-case scenario planners — mostly Democrats, but some anti-Trump Republicans as well — who have been gaming out various doomsday options for the 2020 presidential election:


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/democrats-and-never-trumpers-gaming-out-doomsday-scenarios-if-president-refuses-to-leave-office-report/

[pwb]

1. That is a stretch.

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[UCmeNdc]

7. Never underestimate what Barr, McConnell, and Trump might do to remain in power.

Never say never!

[Celerity]

33. +100000

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. If that infected ass-boil refuses to leave the WH on January 20,

at that point he will have become a private citizen who's trespassing on government property, and the federal marshals can drag his fat orange butt right out of there.

[mitch96]

22. " that infected ass-boil"

Just spit my vino all over the screen!!! I love picturesque speech!!
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[Amishman]

36. So we sit back and hope someone takes care of it for us?

Let's face it, we are powerless in that situation. Protests, rallies, and other forms of peaceful activism only works on a cooperative opponent.

If we need to rely on force, we may be disappointed. Most law enforcement and military want to collect their pay check and stay safe. The minority willing to put their lives in the line for beliefs likely trend conservative.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that.

[demtenjeep]

3. Carville says there are a ton of soldiers on the TR that will gladly do an extraction

procedure.

Says the military hates him.

He would know

Ragin' Ca-gen

[jmowreader]

16. They have sailors on the TR, not soldiers

But after what Trump did to their fine captain, I am pretty sure that not only would the entire ship’s compliment volunteer to help remove Trump et cie from the White House, they’d allow the Secret Service to use their ship for the mass keelhauling that must follow.

[pecosbob]

23. Sailors and Marines

Typically seventy or eighty Marines are stationed aboard as security for 'special' munitions and as a general security force.

[no_hypocrisy]

4. I think it's sound strategy to start preparing several possibilities/probabilities

instead of letting it happen.

I'm certain Biden has attorneys already drafting legal memoranda on this very matter.

[BigmanPigman]

9. So do I.

I had this conversation just last night with a fellow Dem.

Dear Leader, the GOP and Putin will pull all kinds of shit before Inauguration Day. They will do anything and everything to stay in power. tRump knows he is going to jail when he leaves office and he does not want that to happen. He is extremely dangerous and will become even worse. Be ready.

[mucifer]

5. curl up in a ball and cry and cry and cry

[dmr]

6. "Peaceful transition of power."

This is what we hear each and every Inaugural Day.

The beauty of our Constitution.

If Trump attempts to betray this, he'll be escorted out. If he squawks, then frog-marched in handcuffs ... kicking and screaming, I don't care. He will be a trespasser with no more rights than the average John Doe.

The White House is not his. It is the People's House - yours and mine.

If they try to pull a stunt in October, it won't work.

[SoonerPride]

8. I am headed to Washington DC to join a million people to drag him out

If we have to storm the white house then so be it.

But he will be evicted either peaceably or forcefully.

[BigmanPigman]

10. The1st Women's March was the day after his Inauguration

and millions stormed the streets. I imagine that event would be eclipsed by the crowds going to DC to remove him.

[SoonerPride]

12. Truth.

If he signals he isn’t leaving then millions upon millions will go and even if his gun toting mouth breathers also decide to show we will bring our guns if we have to.

But he is coming out of there either by the SS or the federal marshals or by a million people storming the gates.

But he won’t be there one day past his term.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

11. I don't know what I personally could do.

Myself.
However if anyone in Harford county Maryland could help with transportation to and from wherever it is. I'd be glad to go to a protest,make a sign and scream about it with whatever others are going out there to scream about it too.

I have risk factors making me vulnerable to covid, but I don't care because I can't live in a neoliberal dictatorship without my consience and moral/ ethical compass on fire and every fiber of my being going mad wanting it to be destroyed.
Trump would be hated with the heat of 100 trillion blue star sun's.

I'd be willing to hookup via zoom or in person with others to brainstorm about what to do about it.

I don't want to be useless
When it comes to fighting for our country,should trump try to be a dicktator
Emphasis on dick..

[Doodley]

13. The noises are already being made to claim the election is unfair and to suppress the Biden vote.

We need a campaign NOW to show what Trump/GOP is doing to try to disenfranchise voters and undermine the election result. It should be part of the Democrat strategy to point out that the GOP want to win by cheating. Then it is harder for GOP to implement if they are being exposed every step of the way.

[TreasonousBastard]

14. I'll catch the story in the Times later, but my first problem is believing there are...

enough people in this country who are willing to tear up the Constitution for Donald.

The states come up with the electors. Nothing so far says how the states come up with electors, and for years the legislatures did it. They can do it again.

And at this point nothing says they have to vote for whom they pledged, although that's been before the Supremes already, and will be again. Pressure on a few electors could change things. And since the 22(?) amendment, the election is certified by the incoming Congress not the outgoing one. Think about that for a minute.

Without another civil war, it seems to me that we have enough support within all three branches of government to frog march the present lump out of the White House if he doesn't get certified by Inauguration Day.

Ain't no emergency bad enough to keep this one in office.

[Chainfire]

15. It sounds a bit too wild for rational conjecture

but, since we are hypothesizing, I would suggest that such an action would clearly be an illegal overthrow of the Government, and a direct attack on the Constitution. I would feel that, in order to fulfill the oath that I took as a young man, and that I never rescinded, I would feel obligated to grab my pitchfork and head to the streets. I am too old to be a good soldier, but I am too young to become a good slave.

[struggle4progress]

17. Stable power reproduces itself in various ways -- but one of those ways is that masses of people

consent to it hundreds or thousands of times daily in the course of their ordinary lives

Such an act would qualify as treason

Who's would consent to this? Any judge or politician who goes along with it would be in violation of their oath of office

[zackymilly]

18. That will never happen. n/t

[USALiberal]

19. Silly premise, the Secret Service will remove him. nt

[Warpy]

20. I fully expect him to rant and rave at rented halls around red states

about how the election was stolen from His People.

However, he will be removed from the White House. I hope it's trussed up and on a refrigerator dolly with cameras rolling, to be loaded onto a chopper like a big sack of manure and taken to wherever his private plane is.

[RichardRay]

21. Watch gleefully...

... as the Secret Service and the White House staff give him a classic bums rush.

They don’t like him.

[pecosbob]

24. I recall reading about a recent re-deployment of troops in the DC area

and the formation of a new military command in the area, the Joint Task Force National Capital Region (JTF-NCR). I assumed at the time that it was in preparation for casualties from COVID-19 or possible evacuation of the capitol, but you never know.

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-washington-dc-faces-coronavirus-spike-secret-military-task-force-prepares-secure-1498276

[Kaleva]

25. Nothing more then what I'm doing now.

[Trumpocalypse]

26. He can refuse to leave the White House but

as of 12 noon on January 20th he is no longer President. That is the law.

[sarisataka]

27. I am still waiting for someone

To point where in the Constitution or law a President has the choice to remain in office after being defeated.

[roamer65]

28. Dump can't stop the election.

The states are the ones who hold it.

Let’s chill right now and take it day by day.

[Brainfodder]

30. Should remain unanswered, nothing good can come of it?

Cross that bridge when we get to it?

Just maybe he resigns due to health failing in July?

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

31. If there's no election, I'll be concerned.

If he loses the election and refuses to move out of the White House, I'm making popcorn.

[Kaleva]

32. It's interesting that you are not saying what you will do.

[mercuryblues]

34. I thought of this years ago

I have a plan. The best plan. Many very important people like this.


This house is in Dallas. A rally event will get him out of the real white house. When it is time to go back to the real WH, just deliver him here instead.

There are also replicas in McLean VA and Atlanta if this one isn't available.

[dware]

38. The Army will not toss his big wide ass right out, they have no jurisdiction to do so,

it will be the US Marshals Service along with the Secret Service who will gladly get rid of the trash and then fumigate the WH.

[dware]

39. Aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddd another thread about the Mango Menace not

leaving or stopping the election.

1. He can't stop the election, those are state run.

2. On Jan. 20, 2021, at 12:00 noon, he becomes a private citizen and if he refuses to leave, he will be trespassing and the Secret Service, along with the US Marshals Service will remove him willingly or unwillingly, but remove him they will.