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Trump and DOJ probably not pressing charges to encourage rioting...thinking this will help him (Original Post) Dream Girl May 2020 OP
Yes, I was just thinking that too. n/t blitzen May 2020 #1
conspiracy theories nt msongs May 2020 #2
Of just because. Because white nationalism. RockRaven May 2020 #3
I don't think so ibegurpard May 2020 #4
How is it up to them? Squinch May 2020 #5
The decision was make by DOJ Dream Girl May 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch May 2020 #9
DoJ hasn't made a decision yet. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #16
Yes, the US attorney could have arrested them, but they are dragging their feet Dream Girl May 2020 #18
The US Attorney doesn't arrest people. That's the FBI's job. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #22
But why was it made by them? Squinch May 2020 #17
Plus, his takes attention away from Covid. Dream Girl May 2020 #6
I was thinking that today that he and those liberate gun nuts will go to Minneapolis kimbutgar May 2020 #7
Yeah, a race riot is a good distraction from trump's Ilsa May 2020 #10
Neither the DoJ nor the county attorney have said they will not prosecute. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #11
thank you so much. stillcool May 2020 #15
Sill "investigating. They know what will happen in the meantime will they ""investigate" Dream Girl May 2020 #19
Rioting would be a local prosecution, not DOJ unless state lines were crossed. Fiendish Thingy May 2020 #12
The feds are investigating whether there was a civil rights violation The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #13
They want the visual...wall to wall coverage of black folks looting and burning Dream Girl May 2020 #20
Did you see the US attorney speak? Shes spoken to Barr. Dream Girl May 2020 #21
Trump has always wanted a race war. BlueLucy May 2020 #14

Response to Dream Girl (Reply #8)

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
16. DoJ hasn't made a decision yet.
Thu May 28, 2020, 07:41 PM
May 2020

They are still investigating whether there was a violation of a specific civil rights statute.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
18. Yes, the US attorney could have arrested them, but they are dragging their feet
Thu May 28, 2020, 07:58 PM
May 2020

She said she’s been in our wi Barr

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
22. The US Attorney doesn't arrest people. That's the FBI's job.
Thu May 28, 2020, 08:59 PM
May 2020

FBI special agents may make arrests for any federal offense committed in their presence or when they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed, or is committing, a felony violation of U.S. laws. The FBI is currently investigating whether the cops committed a violation of Lloyd's civil rights, but they don't have jurisdiction over murder cases. Normally civil rights cases are charged by grand jury indictment, which means that a grand jury would have to be convened. It's also possible for a person to be charged and arrested by way of a complaint, which is a written statement of essential facts establishing the offense charged made under oath by the agent before a magistrate-judge. Based upon the complaint, an arrest warrant may be issued upon the establishment of probable cause to believe that an offense has been committed and that the defendant committed it. This means a federal agent would have to go to a magistrate with the evidence to get a warrant. There may be some tactical or evidentiary reasons for not having arrested the officers. Clearly they won't be going anywhere.

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
7. I was thinking that today that he and those liberate gun nuts will go to Minneapolis
Thu May 28, 2020, 07:18 PM
May 2020

And start a civil war. A desperate man Like MF45 will do anything to stay in power. If anarchy breaks down in this country I can see him and Barr use it to cancel the election.

Then even bigger protests will occur and things could spin out of control.

I really think Twitter needs to block MF45 on Twitter if he calls for anarchy.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
10. Yeah, a race riot is a good distraction from trump's
Thu May 28, 2020, 07:27 PM
May 2020

Incompetence, arrogance, failing brain. He'd probably record it to watch it over and over.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
11. Neither the DoJ nor the county attorney have said they will not prosecute.
Thu May 28, 2020, 07:33 PM
May 2020

Both have said they are still investigating. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/28/us/minneapolis-george-floyd-thursday/index.html There are some roadblocks, not the least of which is that the cops are pleading the 5th, which will make it more difficult to prove their intent - and both the federal civil rights law and the state murder statute require proof of specific intent. It is essential that this investigation is done right, absolutely by the book, so any prosecution that takes place is as airtight as possible.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,596 posts)
12. Rioting would be a local prosecution, not DOJ unless state lines were crossed.
Thu May 28, 2020, 07:34 PM
May 2020

C’mon folks, let’s use our critical thinking skills.

As for the Floyd Murder, again, that would be a state prosecution, not under DOJ jurisdiction.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
13. The feds are investigating whether there was a civil rights violation
Thu May 28, 2020, 07:38 PM
May 2020

by the police (excessive force). It’s a federal crime when a person who is acting under “under color of any law” (that is, under governmental authority) violates another person’s civil rights “willfully” (18 U.S.C. § 242).

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
20. They want the visual...wall to wall coverage of black folks looting and burning
Thu May 28, 2020, 08:05 PM
May 2020

And I am using my critical skills..may you should of. Hey ai they were in touch with Barr and Trump was “closely following”. Trump is Gil enough to think o ways of weaponizing this

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