"Evidence does not support a criminal charge"

[brooklynite]

Link to tweet

[Silent3]

1. What an asshole

Well, if you wanted more rioting, you got it!

[oasis]

23. "If it's what you say I love it, especially later in the summer"

What Jr. Trump had in mind for the 2016 election could arise in another form.

Think about it, fanatic, Trump loving cops across the country would be oh so eager to sacrifice themselves for the Trump re-election cause.

[dalton99a]

2. Nothing to see. Move on, folks

[Miguelito Loveless]

3. Who are you going to believe?

Me, or your lyin’eyes.

They want the city to explode.

[ProfessorGAC]

4. Things That Make You Go, Hmmmm!

Other, unspecified & unidentified evidence that negates a video.
Hmmmmm!

[smirkymonkey]

5. This is bullshit!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

17. That's not what he said. Here's the full quote:

"My job in the end is to prove he violated a criminal statute. And there is other evidence that does not support a criminal charge. We need to wade through all of that evidence and come to a meaningful decision and we are doing that to the best of our ability."

[The Magistrate]

19. He Needs To Arrest The Killer And Put Him On Trial, Ma'am

A jury can decide if the evidence proves guilt. The only other 'evidence' there can be is the lies told by police in their initial reports of the incident. That is not really evidence, and should be disregarded.

[still_one]

33. The victim was immobilized. There is no justification for what happened, and for

the prosecutor to make such an idiotic statement that "currently there is no evidence to support criminal charges", is irresponsible.

That video alone is enough to merit the arrest of the policemen involved

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

41. I agree. But the feds are involved,

which means the county attorney has to play second fiddle to whatever investigation they are doing. I am hoping an arrest will be made soon.

[The Magistrate]

43. They Investigate Different Crimes, Ma'am

The federal government has jurisdiction only over deprivation of a civil right; they have nothing to do with murder unless it is on a federal property of against a federal official. And either investigation can proceed perfectly well with the officers arrested, and either behind bars or let roam on heavy bail.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

44. I understand that completely.

I'm a retired lawyer and I'm familiar with Minnesota law and procedure, since I practiced here, and also had some contacts with the US attorney's office. Even though the feds are looking at a different crime - civil rights violations under 18 USC § 242, while the state will be looking at murder/manslaughter charges, the same evidence will be used for both cases; both prosecutors need witness statements and they need to coordinate. And the feds will get first dibs on interviews and processes. Both will probably need to convene separate grand juries at this point.

[The Magistrate]

45. My Apolgies, Ma'am

I did not mean to bring coals to Newcastle, but apparently have done so. I will not do it again.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

46. No problem!

I hadn't intended to pull rank or anything of the sort. I've just been a little frustrated that so many have insisted that the officers be arrested instantly while that might not be the best move, legally, procedurally or tactically; and there's some dearth of understanding about how these processes really work. I'd love to see these guys hauled in ASAP but there may be some very good reasons why they haven't been. It is more important that it be done right than it be done quickly. The investigation has to be airtight because these guys have a powerful union and some of the best criminal defense lawyers in the state.

[Stuart G]

20. ..I did not see the entire quote..The original post only has part.....but I will

erase the above post.

..I erased the post...... but the Original Post does ..NOT have the entire quote.....that is why I got it wrong..

This part was left out of the Original Post...........We need to wade through all of that evidence and come to a meaningful decision and we are doing that to the best of our ability."

[stillcool]

7. that's the way to put out a fire..

throw a ton of gas on it. Unbelievable.

[JudyM]

21. Really. At least just say it's gonna take us a little time because of legal rules.

[still_one]

34. An idiotic statement for sure. It would have been better not to even have that

so called press conference

The video alone justified the policemen's arrest

[a kennedy]

8. OMGAWD........this is not good.

S O A B.

[spanone]

9. Well, I saw an execution.

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[FirstLight]

10. really? REALLY?

fucker...

I hope they burn down the fucking police station!

[jimfields33]

36. And raise property taxes to rebuild.

I agree but there’s always a price to every action.

[Cha]

11. How about the police letting George Llyod up so

could breathe, asshole "prosecutor"?

[sarisataka]

12. I listened to that farce

While driving through St Paul.

Most stores were already closed, many of them being boarded up. There were several cell phone stores that the owners sat out front openly armed. About 25% were AA, 75% Asian.

Seeing these activities, listening to a bunch of white people in suits saying be patient, we have to consider if there was a crime and considering 16 buildings burned last night- I will bet on over for tonight.

I just hope the death toll is low.

[Permanut]

13. Says the old white guy..

Disgusting. Disclaimer: I'm an old white guy.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

14. That's not the full quote.

"My job in the end is to prove he violated a criminal statute. And there is other evidence that does not support a criminal charge. We need to wade through all of that evidence and come to a meaningful decision and we are doing that to the best of our ability."

[janterry]

15. Thank you, this is helpful

I was about to turn off the computer. This means he's doing due diligence. That's okay.

[still_one]

16. Even if hypothetically he did resist arrest, he was immobilized, and there is no excuse

to justify his death. It was murder plain and simple

[Stuart G]

18. According to this story:, CBS Local, others are still investigating (county atty Freeman)

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/28/we-have-to-do-this-right-hennepin-county-attorney-mike-freeman-says-george-floyd-investigation-will-take-time/

[Johnny2X2X]

22. He said he refuses to talk about evidence

Right before he takes about evidence, but only evidence that would exonerate the cops.

Sickening.

[Maraya1969]

24. What is the "Other evidence?"

[dalton99a]

27. Secret video showing he died naturally in bed

[Maraya1969]

35. That makes as much sense as anything. eom

[Squinch]

25. Your headline is grossly misleading and irresponsible.

[Brainfodder]

26. Captain Oblivious Von Fibberstick been making the rounds again?

I am sure this will calm all the anger and there will be peace in MN!



Wide open statements, they are so gross: "other evidence".

[Roland99]

28. In other news, a ham sandwich WILL be indicted

Film at 11

[uponit7771]

29. ✨✨✨PLEASE CORRECT OP TITLE !!! NOT WHAT PROSECUTOR SAID✨✨✨

[brooklynite]

30. There's now a clarification.

Link to tweet

[Tipperary]

31. Whoa.

This is wrong. This is bad.

[lpbk2713]

32. Good luck with that.

You're about to find out last night was just the beginning.

[roamer65]

37. I have this sinking feeling for Mpls/St Paul tonite.

I hope I am wrong.

[muriel_volestrangler]

38. I just googled "minnesota homicide statutes" and the first result is an appropriate charge

2019 Minnesota Statutes

609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

[msongs]

39. depends on what is a "depraved mind" means nt

[muriel_volestrangler]

40. Yeah, that could be arguable

but unless there is a definition in the statutes, I'd say it's worth charging it and seeing if a jury agrees, or if they go for some form of homicide by gross negligence. When the victim was pleading that he couldn't breathe, and the cop ignored it for several minutes, it might fit.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

42. Here is a Minnesota court case discussing what is meant by "depraved mind."

https://law.justia.com/cases/minnesota/supreme-court/1972/41956-1.html

More here: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/04/06/data-shows-depraved-mind-statute-at-play-in-minneapolis-cop-noor-case-rarely-used

[muriel_volestrangler]

47. Thanks for that - the case of the police shooting Justine Ruszczyk/Damond seems similar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond

and in that, the conviction was for 3rd degree murder and manslaughter.

https://www.startribune.com/mohamed-noor-guilty-murder-manslaughter-fatal-shooting-justine-ruszczyk-damond-minneapolis-police/509224642/