Why is there no vaccine for HIV?

[milestogo]

Its been around for decades and millions have died.

[FoxNewsSucks]

1. My guess is that corporate pharmaceuticals

make too many billions TREATING it.

[Igel]

9. It's easier to accuse others.

HIV vaccine's a hard problem.

[FreeState]

19. This n/t

[Silent3]

22. Why do you leap immediately to a conspiratorial conclusion...

...rather than even give much consideration at all that it could be, you know, really hard to do?

[George II]

24. You're wrong. Completely. Unequivocably.

[Maru Kitteh]

27. That's a reaction born of ignorance about the virus itself, I'm afraid.

Your guess is wrong. It is a function of how the HIV virus sets up shop in the body, and it's mutability that explains why a vaccine has been so elusive. Instead of slandering the character of the individual humans that devote their lives to the medical research, academic and scientific communities, perhaps you should effort to learn a little bit about why the search for a vaccine has been so difficult.

Knee-jerk anti-science sentiment cloaked in anti-corpratism is so unfortunate.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

2. The HIV is a tricky one that's really good at "shielding" itself from vaccine technology.

Some viruses are better than others. Some vaccines have been developed but they have low efficacy.

[Amishman]

5. yup, viruses are varied and work differently from each other

some have too many strains and/or too high a mutation rate for an effective vaccine (common cold, influenza)

others behave in ways that doesn't align with our known possible vaccine mechanics (HIV)

unfortunately Covid-19 might be in the first category. I suspect we won't get a smallpox/polio style one and done vaccine.

[hlthe2b]

3. Are you really unaware of the efforts taken to produce one? Good heavens.

Even a cursory google search of lay media accounts should impress you with the challenges.

I really can't believe the suggestion in your post that an all-out effort has not occurred.


But I'll give you a head start and suggest you google HIV and mutations (mutability)

[Celerity]

11. +100000

[milestogo]

13. You don't have to attack me for asking a question.

I wasn't suggesting that there has been no effort.

It seems like there has been an enormous effort but still no vaccine. So I merely wonder if there is something about this particular virus that makes it hard to develop one.

There's enough shit going on in the world without taking a patronizing, snarky tone against other DUers.

[hlthe2b]

15. Perhaps rather than attacking me when I DID answer your question, you should

reread the way in which you posed the question. Celerity likewise took it as I did, which seems to stop just short of a conspiracy theory being advanced. We clearly have enough of that, lately from our opponents and from those who have other reasons for doing so.

[milestogo]

16. Perhaps you should control yourself resist the urge to post when you feel like

projecting garbage onto other people.

[marble falls]

17. Please go back and reread your posts.

[Caliman73]

20. The question was phrased without much context.

Your follow up statement "It's been around for decades and millions have died" might be interpreted as others have posted, to indicate a judgement on the effort to make the vaccine. I will say that the tone is not explicit, but tone is difficult to read in print unless people use more words to clarify.


I may have asked, "Why is there no vaccine for HIV?" and followed up with, "Is there something about the virus that makes a vaccine more difficult?" or something to that effect.

[Buckeyeblue]

4. While no vaccine we have figured out how to treat it well

And there are some drugs that can prevent infection. But they have to be taken on a continual basis. Vaccines are complicated because viruses change. That's why we need an annual flu shot.

[qazplm135]

6. Because HIV

Uses the immune system which is the thing vaccines rely on generally to work.

[beachbumbob]

7. nature of that virus and why most viruses have no vaccines generally

[Meowmee]

8. It is a very difficult virus to produce an effective vaccine for

Due to various reasons. They have been working on it for 30 years. Many of the vaccines had the risk of infecting people. There is hope for a possibility maybe now.


http://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/search-hiv-prevention-vaccine

[Hortensis]

10. That none CAN be developed for some viruses is a cautionary tale.

Most adults know about the HIV holocaust, yet we're so used to what modern medicine can do that when SARS-CoV-2 came along it was just assumed a vaccine would be developed.

It was also just assumed that developing herd immunity was an of-course, even though humans have never developed herd immunity to HIV or even more on point permanent immunity to some of the coronaviruses that cause the common cold, with many falling ill more than once a year.

On the happy side, of course, it's now looking like both will be possible and that humanity's catching the huge break we might not have had.

[MichMan]

12. I posted the same thing a couple weeks ago and it was removed

Jury concluded it was a RW talking point.

Still not understanding why?

[milestogo]

14. I don't know why either.

Its a good question. A lot of people think you can solve any problem if you throw enough money at it. AIDs shows that this is not true.

[LisaL]

18. There are no vaccines for common cold either.

It's not possible to generate vaccines for some viruses (at least so far).

[NutmegYankee]

21. They can make vaccines for them.

The problem is there are hundreds of different cold viruses, each of which would need a separate vaccine, and the disease is so minor that there isn't any money in making a vaccine.

[Maru Kitteh]

25. No money? Maybe because consumers don't want to undergo hundreds of injections annually

to prevent the common cold. Pretty sure I would have to take a hard pass on that one myself, and I'm a rather huge fan of vaccination.

[Baclava]

23. Humans are weak, easy hosts for the mighty virus family for a million years, viruses evolve quickly

HIV uses revolving shield technology to change its defenses and invades the DNA of cells where it stays safely hidden

The hairless apes will probably never defeat it

[Sympthsical]

26. It's just a very tricky virus

Fortunately we have very effective treatments that bring the viral load down to undetectable and make transmission difficult. But those have their own issues. Truvada, which I was on while single, is not great for your liver.

But I’ve had HIV positive partners in the past and remain negative to this day.