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judeling

(1,086 posts)
Fri May 29, 2020, 10:43 PM May 2020

Will the tactics work in Mpls

It is an interesting but not unheard of approach.
The set a large perimeter this spread out the crowd and had them focused on the police and not any landmark, although the landmark was an objective.

They retreated into dead ground that had already been looted and was less vulnerable. (Incidentally showing the group the destruction that had been done to familiar places. ) Looking like they had given up the objective. That drew the crowd after them. Then after the crowd was pulled into a narrow area they stopped and drew focus back on themselves as an objective, The teargas was to thin the crowd. After the focus was truly set and the objective was clear they then started the retreat again until the crowd strung out and then disappeared taking the energy right out of it.

There were never going to be mass arrests. The last thing needed now was another log on the fire.

Now as the night goes on we will see if it works.

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Will the tactics work in Mpls (Original Post) judeling May 2020 OP
Seeing all this happen just breaks my heart. bamagal62 May 2020 #1
It's an unexpected tactic but they seem to have decided The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #2
They just did not have enough manpower judeling May 2020 #5
It appears that way. If there are enough people The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #8
I have watched some livestreams sarisataka May 2020 #3
Well in this livestream they've been in front of the Mpls 5th Precinct for about an hour progree May 2020 #7
I was watching Unicorn Riot while they were around Chicago sarisataka May 2020 #9
We need a serious overhaul of how the police act in this country! dubyadiprecession May 2020 #4
I'd have yelled at you judeling May 2020 #6
It was broad daylight, and the fire had been out. dubyadiprecession May 2020 #10

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
2. It's an unexpected tactic but they seem to have decided
Fri May 29, 2020, 10:47 PM
May 2020

that not confronting the protesters and avoiding violence (and possible video of cops beating people up or worse) was a better way of dealing with the situation even if there's a lot of property damage. Business owners might feel differently and it was hard to watch the destruction - but nobody is dead or beaten up, besides poor George Floyd.

judeling

(1,086 posts)
5. They just did not have enough manpower
Fri May 29, 2020, 11:04 PM
May 2020

800 may sound like a lot but that isn't even 2 for every 1,000 people. You just cannot hope to control the size of the protests with that few.

Unless you truly want to use massive firepower.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
8. It appears that way. If there are enough people
Fri May 29, 2020, 11:16 PM
May 2020

they can't arrest all of them, and they have evidently decided not to even try to arrest people just for curfew violations. Here's an interesting live Facebook stream by one of the protest leaders: https://www.facebook.com/NinjaBlack47/videos/2568153576732167/?fref=search&__tn__=%2Cd%2CP-R&eid=ARBXppfFrnDXpzxREhxT5I8SQqP5YaAY4V9JDEOT_CKLr7VBjTvir46BM1O9Yr7HXr_hRXS3epSfqJzt

sarisataka

(18,539 posts)
3. I have watched some livestreams
Fri May 29, 2020, 10:55 PM
May 2020

of marches currently going on in Minneapolis. Those leading the marchers have encountered police roadblocks and spoke with officers. They explained the intent of the march is to keep moving so people do not stop and start repeating the previous two nights.

The police agreed to open paths for the marchers to go and indicated they will not interfere as long as the marches stay peaceful.

Hopefully this rapprochement holds through the night.

progree

(10,901 posts)
7. Well in this livestream they've been in front of the Mpls 5th Precinct for about an hour
Fri May 29, 2020, 11:15 PM
May 2020

speechifying and chanting. So far no violence or bad-acting. Someone threw a bottle at a window of the 5th precinct and apparently got chewed out by others in the crowd. (Unicorn Riot)

sarisataka

(18,539 posts)
9. I was watching Unicorn Riot while they were around Chicago
Fri May 29, 2020, 11:19 PM
May 2020

I switched to the march in downtown. Every time someone starts moving towards any violence or vandalism (outside of some graffiti) other marchers pull them back. They are very focused on staying peaceful and being heard for justice.

The even told the police there were going to go down to 35 and the police gave them the go ahead

dubyadiprecession

(5,702 posts)
4. We need a serious overhaul of how the police act in this country!
Fri May 29, 2020, 11:01 PM
May 2020

I had a cop bark at me, “where are you going!” When I tried to walk down a sidewalk towards a house that had been on fire.
The sidewalk wasn’t taped off. He just yelled that at me from the center of the street, in front of two other cops, that he was talking to.
I know it is nothing compared to what the black community has to deal with, but I felt I was treated more like a prisoner, than a citizen from a democratic nation.
Their culture of what they think their role is and how they act in this society, needs to change!

judeling

(1,086 posts)
6. I'd have yelled at you
Fri May 29, 2020, 11:13 PM
May 2020

If this was Minneapolis and I didn't know what you were doing after a night of riots.

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